So why do so many themepark lovers love to tell other people play other games types that have nothing to do with MMORPG.
A battle royale is nothing at all like a sandbox FFA PvP MMORPG.
Destiny, Warframe, The Division, Anthem are very much like themepark MMORPG.
Should anytime someone suggest a new themepark, vertical progression or bad state of themeparks tell them to play coop RPGs/loot em shooters?
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Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent.
"At one point technology meant making tech that could get to the moon, now it means making tech that could get you a taxi."
Not to mention those games you mention in other genre have much more people and probably easier to design than a mmorpg.
And to your original topic. At least themepark mmorpg have a template to replicate. Developer probably don't even know what sandbox pve games to copy... The last mainstream PvE sandbox is SWG?
I assume you are playing them regularly, yes?
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For all intents and purposes they play the same as themepark with smaller amounts of people. I don't pop up in threads saying play them when someone brings up their themepark ideas or desires for classics. Themepark is much closer to a looter shooter than an alternative MMORPG idea is to a FPS.
It doesn't even have to be asking for PvP. Desire to play MMORPG without the grind or levels or whatever isn't main stream has always been followed by people saying play FPS, then MOBA and now BR. Even the Second Life thing is just obnoxious.
You can't just slap FFA on a PVE game say here. It has to be designed from the ground up. I think most people here know what they want. If they wanted BR they would be playing one not discussing all the merits of sandbox which is drastically different.
I assume you play looter shooters. They have multiplayer, quest, dungeons, loot, levels, grind, raids.
BR is a FPS with 100 players. Nothing like a MMORPG. Survival is close but not the same. Maybe you can mention this if Amazon's 10k player survival game comes out.
Looter shooters/co-op RPG have everything MMORPG have except a real open world. Many themepark don't have that either. It just has less players in any area. Considering the state of interactions in themeparks these days it doesn't mean much.
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Because other than FFA full loot pvp, I don't see any main stream ones.
Ya I agree destiny, warframe, witcher 3, league of legend, diablo 3, do the individual part much better. But I can experience all those type of gameplay in one single game.
And since you are post police I guess you are taking your own advice and a vow of silence.
If so, DFO is the closest, perhaps MO but I assume you are avoiding them for "reasons."
For the record the number of MMORPGs I've actually enjoyed can be counted on one hand, with fingers left over. (All created 2004 and earlier of course)
I did think ArcheAge had potential until Trion screwed the pooch on its monetization along with PA being unable to get the hacking under some semblance of control.
Survival games don't do it for me, not a fan of punching bushes nor crafting which tends to dominate their gameplay.
Looter shooters I've never really tried, not so good at the shooting part, though I did enjoy Half Life 1 / 2 years ago and all of the recent Fallout titles but probably not really the same.
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Looter shooters aren't bad. They can be grindy but your shooting accuracy doesn't have to be the best. Try warframe which is kind of like space ninjas and F2P. It's a good starter one. I wish the had high fantasy versions of them.
I like Archeage honestly. Just not enough land and as you said P2W killed it.
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yes.. he's crying about something I said to him, I suggested a Battle Royal game to them, because he was looking for a Multiplayer game that had Zero Grind, Zero Leveling, and was all about Player Skill.
That is a Battle Royal game, in the purest form.
The main reason why I suggested that kind of game, is because THEY had expressed the features THEY were looking for and those games provide them exactly.
Also, it is good practice not to speak for others, so next time just use "me" properly instead of "we". It will help you keep perspective and avoid self-delusion.
BR is not a MMO. It is a twitched based FPS with a twist of minecraft. Nothing to do with a MMORPG without grind. There is no game world. Just FPS that I can't play well anymore.
Funny when I recommend a looter shooter screams and moans from the heavens that its not a MMO come down. They have all the trappings of MMORPG. Game world, grouping, loot, leveling, raids are all there. Those who defend mainstream ideas act like there are men in black suits listening ready to take their progression away because of forum post.
The idea of levelless MMORPG is basically here. Developers just hold on to enough to not spook people who would be traumatized by lack of vertical progression.
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