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Will Classic servers be "authentic" in every way?

KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,498
Specifically, will they be swarmed by gold farming bots and chat spam?

Gold was difficult to come by in WOW's early days and it practically spawned the "Chinese" gold farming industry turning it into a monolith.

Few may recall how prolific it was but I'll confess, I spent a significant amount of cash on a couple of horses for my son and I back on our first characters.

I wasn't alone, I knew numerous working adults who did likewise, for either themselves or their children.

Now by the time the 2nd year rolled around Blizzard had made changes.  Most gear was BOP with only some mid level BOE items, and earning gold seemed easier.

I rerolled on a new server and it was much easier to earn enough gold  when I needed to, even when paying for raiding supplies and repairs. 

Will Blizzard be offering their token system in Classic or could we see a return of gold farming bots across the land?









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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,530
    edited May 2019
    As long as they have same level of salty tears about how much the classic game sucked and needed to change, which caused it change in the first place.. I don't care what else they do.. as that is the most entertaining part of games.. watching everyone cry about how this game needs to be like this other game, but that other games that they want this game to be like sucked so much they had to leave.

    Let that process.
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • DrunkWolfDrunkWolf Member RarePosts: 1,701
    if there is money to be made selling gold, then there will be gold farming bots.
  • blamo2000blamo2000 Member RarePosts: 1,130
    According to what people are saying on the forums there will not be tokens, so there will be gold farmers and sellers.

    I think you are misremembering early game BoEs.  Twinking was huge in EQ so that was a really hot topic when WoW came out, and their answer was BoEs that have level requirements and few blue items where not BoP.  


    I don't remember them addressing it other than adding dailies.  I had an account when WoW first came out, got to lvl 60, life got too busy so I sold the account on ebay for a ton of money.  I went back some time later, a good time before BC and leveling and my strategy was pretty much exactly the same, except this time I bought gold to avoid grinding for a mount, and then again for an epic mount.  I don't remember any items that changed from BoE to BoP.  

    I certainly could be wrong, and I do remember a lot of item stat changes for lots of items (for mainly BoP) but not anything about BoEs being made into BoPs.  

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    Filthy gold buyers!!!!!

    As a former athlete, I look at gold buyers like I looked at steroids users....
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,530
    Rhoklaw said:
    Ungood said:
    As long as they have same level of salty tears about how much the classic game sucked and needed to change, which caused it change in the first place.. I don't care what else they do.. as that is the most entertaining part of games.. watching everyone cry about how this game needs to be like this other game, but that other games that they want this game to be like sucked so much they had to leave.

    Let that process.
    I think you're confused. World of Warcraft WAS the trendsetter. It didn't look to other games for ideas. The only reason things changed is because of lazy people complaining about time constraints. Which if anyone who played Classic EQ and than Classic WoW would know, was a drop in the bucket. Most of WoW's changes, including that god awful LFD finder was the beginning of the end. Stop playing it like a game and enjoy the damn environments. I'm beginning to wonder if 90% of gamers today can even read a book past chapter 1 before giving up.
    That was more my attempt at humor. I see it went over poorly.


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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,348
    If it doesn't have lots of server instability and downtime, then it isn't authentic Vanilla WoW.
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  • DauzqulDauzqul Member RarePosts: 1,982
    DMKano said:
    Lol no.

    The #1 thing that wont make it authentic is just how different the playerbase is when they know everything already and are simply there to relive the nostalgia. 

    The 2nd time around however the feeling fades 10x faster - I've seen players going from absolutely elated to completely done with the game all in the same week.


    Totally agree. I've seen this.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,041
    Make a mage.
    Get all portals.
    Sell teleports to everybody in your capital.
    Get rich.

    I was never short on gold during Vanilla.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    It is just huge resource waste....'

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  • krgwynnekrgwynne Member UncommonPosts: 119
    technology is alot better so there will be limmits to how much it feels the same

  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 7,081
    edited May 2019
    lahnmir said:
    Make a mage.
    Get all portals.
    Sell teleports to everybody in your capital.
    Get rich.

    I was never short on gold during Vanilla.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Other choices:
    - Warlocks and Paladins get a free mount at 40.
    -Harvesting can make you more money than crafting in most cases....Selling the mats !...... herbalism, or mining for the first, then skinning for the second. At very high level you have the opposite, so this only holds true for making 90 gold for level 40 mount.
    -First Aid, make a decision, if you take it, it's nice to quickly self heal. However the mats such as cloths are the BEST money maker on the auction in the game.
    -Crafting bags are nice (everyone needs them), BUT everyone will have this idea making your selling power worthless.

    Your first character is very painful to make 90 gold by level 40.  However after 40 you make tones of gold, even by simply doing quest.



    My suggestion is play Warlock or Paladin. as you get higher in level, you can supply your other characters.  Harvest anyway, to make even more money !

    However play what you like is more important for fun, and suffer through harvesting. 
    Galadournmcrippins
  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,813
    I'm sure the transition to the new engine will have addressed many issues related to boting, etc. It's Classic chassis running on EURO 6 engine....
    Kyleran
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,498
    edited May 2019
    lahnmir said:
    Make a mage.
    Get all portals.
    Sell teleports to everybody in your capital.
    Get rich.

    I was never short on gold during Vanilla.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Good thought, and when I played a mage alt I too made great money though I hated standing around in capitals to do so.

    As a Paladin at launch my income came from killing things.....very slowly.... so my income growth was equally slow, especially as most of my gathering mats went to paying for engineering,  which proved to be the big mistake. 

    But we really wanted to make rocket boots....too bad they misfired so often.

     :# 

    Post edited by Kyleran on

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,498
    lahnmir said:
    Make a mage.
    Get all portals.
    Sell teleports to everybody in your capital.
    Get rich.

    I was never short on gold during Vanilla.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Other choices:
    - Warlocks and Paladins get a free mount at 40.
    -Harvesting can make you more money than crafting in most cases....Selling the mats !...... herbalism, or mining for the first, then skinning for the second. At very high level you have the opposite, so this only holds true for making 90 gold for level 40 mount.
    -First Aid, make a decision, if you take it, it's nice to quickly self heal. However the mats such as cloths are the BEST money maker on the auction in the game.
    -Crafting bags are nice (everyone needs them), BUT everyone will have this idea making your selling power worthless.

    Your first character is very painful to make 90 gold by level 40.  However after 40 you make tones of gold, even by simply doing quest.



    My suggestion is play Warlock or Paladin. as you get higher in level, you can supply your other characters.  Harvest anyway, to make even more money !

    However play what you like is more important for fun, and suffer through harvesting. 
    I can agree with harvesting but I dont recall Paladins getting free mounts at 40, unless it came just before Vanilla. 

    I recall Druids being able to run an epic quest for a (flying?) mount,  but definitely no free Pally mounts at launch.

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  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,813
    edited May 2019
    at 60 the mounts cost approx. 1,000 gold though 
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  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,813
    making money in WoW is much easier than making money IRL, damn....
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    DMKano said:
    Lol no.

    The #1 thing that wont make it authentic is just how different the playerbase is when they know everything already and are simply there to relive the nostalgia. 

    The 2nd time around however the feeling fades 10x faster - I've seen players going from absolutely elated to completely done with the game all in the same week.


    For many it will be their first time.

    Whether that be the majority or the minority....  Only Blizzard will know.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,498
    edited May 2019
    Galadourn said:
    at 60 the mounts cost approx. 1,000 gold though 
    Nothing a little mining couldn't cover the cost of... 
    You mean a crap ton of mining right, especially in the early days.

    Galadourn said:
    making money in WoW is much easier than making money IRL, damn....
    Oh my no, I quite easily earn enough money IRL in just a few hours to purchase tons of gold, saving dozens of tedious hours farming for it.


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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Signs of authenticity:

    1.   Chuck Norris joke spam in general chat;
    2.   Shouts of Cry Mor Noob! from random PvP encounters;
    3.   Player casinos;
    4.   Hunters, hunters, everywhere;
    5.   Ironforge and Stormwind heavily populated;
    6.   /train choo choo sounds in underground train between IF and SW;
    7.   Beating Hogger - a rite of passage;
    8.   Enemy rogues lurking in your capital;
    9.   Trade mats sold for good coin;
    10.  Luring Stitches to Goldshire.
    mcrippins

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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,626
    Kinda sad.. earning the 900/1000g for the epic mount was quite an achievement in the early days of WoW. Buying the gold cheated yourself out of that. Oh well.
  • moshramoshra Member RarePosts: 400
    Rhoklaw said:
    Ungood said:
    As long as they have same level of salty tears about how much the classic game sucked and needed to change, which caused it change in the first place.. I don't care what else they do.. as that is the most entertaining part of games.. watching everyone cry about how this game needs to be like this other game, but that other games that they want this game to be like sucked so much they had to leave.

    Let that process.
    I think you're confused. World of Warcraft WAS the trendsetter. It didn't look to other games for ideas. The only reason things changed is because of lazy people complaining about time constraints. Which if anyone who played Classic EQ and than Classic WoW would know, was a drop in the bucket. Most of WoW's changes, including that god awful LFD finder was the beginning of the end. Stop playing it like a game and enjoy the damn environments. I'm beginning to wonder if 90% of gamers today can even read a book past chapter 1 before giving up.
    Should've made a TLDR note for your post, because those same gamers stopped reading your post after the first sentence.  
  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851
    Rhoklaw said:
    Ungood said:
    As long as they have same level of salty tears about how much the classic game sucked and needed to change, which caused it change in the first place.. I don't care what else they do.. as that is the most entertaining part of games.. watching everyone cry about how this game needs to be like this other game, but that other games that they want this game to be like sucked so much they had to leave.

    Let that process.
    I think you're confused. World of Warcraft WAS the trendsetter. It didn't look to other games for ideas. The only reason things changed is because of lazy people complaining about time constraints. Which if anyone who played Classic EQ and than Classic WoW would know, was a drop in the bucket. Most of WoW's changes, including that god awful LFD finder was the beginning of the end. Stop playing it like a game and enjoy the damn environments. I'm beginning to wonder if 90% of gamers today can even read a book past chapter 1 before giving up.
    I think you are confused on how WoW was made, it looked to every game in the genre and took what worked well and put it all together in a miraculous way.  Just like Everquest did the same before it (Focusing on MUDs and RPGs).  The inspiration of genre itself and not just focusing on the greatest contender is what made WoW what it was.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    WoW is more than the sum of its parts. Sure it has many of the same things as other fantasy games - that is to be expected. But it had many things that are fairly unique to it. Just as a few examples:

    1. The artstyle;
    2. The music;
    3. The quest system (with "!" assistance );
    4.  A LOT of humor and lightheartedness in the quest stories;
    5.  A LOT of pop cultural references;
    6.  Extensive use of instancing;
    7.  The whole white - green - blue - purple thing we now take for granted;
    8.  Changes to quest mob spawning;

    There are a 100 more. It's not just a watered down cut and paste.


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,498
    From what I've experienced so far in the beta, the gameplay is exactly the same than in WoW 1.12 back then.

    The only thing that changes but is 100% optional is that you can crank the graphic quality higher than in Vanilla. That doesn't affect gameplay at all.

    PS: I never needed to buy gold to get my mounts and stuff... go figure.
    Single man, married but no children? If so, makes sense.


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,498
    mcrippins said:
    Kinda sad.. earning the 900/1000g for the epic mount was quite an achievement in the early days of WoW. Buying the gold cheated yourself out of that. Oh well.
    Meh, I was busy raiding, got to the Twin Emps before BC blew it all away.

    We all value different sorts of achievements for various reasons.


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    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

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