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Why MMORPG have complex combat formula ?
iixviiiix
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Why not simple DMG minus DEF ?
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In newer games it's used to "awe the user into stupidity", and leverage that complexity for cash shop bonuses like enchantment/stat-rerolls and similar. Or in sub games like WoW, to keep you hungry for more grind.
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As for which games compute damage that way, I know that Crystalis did. I can't think of a more recent example.
RPG's are supposed to be layered affairs where different people can have different concepts of their characters and build them accordingly. Attributes, Skills, Perks, Avantages, Disadvantages... etc are all supposed to help you build what you want to play rather than simply dropped into the world with the same stuff everyone else has.
FFXI imo has the best most complex formulas for simulating combat.The use of an ARC gives more realism,it means damage can vary because if all we saw was 20...20..20 ...20 it would look FAKE and just awful.
No where in real life could you exact the EXACT same damage over and over,impossible.Then you have an added layer or weapon and armor properties,skill/level effects,formula to decide if you hit at all.
So if games used a simplified formula it would look like this.
Orc 50 max damage,player 45 defense.So result is Orc does 5 damage every single time and every other Orc does 5 damage every single time,does that appear to be realistic or a good simulation of combat?
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When I started Gaming we had:
Tanks
Heals
DD (Damage Dealer)
Utility/CC
Over time I noticed people started calling DD Dps, which is wrong(imo). Dps, or high Dps is the goal of a DD. Sure, any class can do damage, but that was a by-product of playing your position, not the focus.
Off topic, sorry, but just a thought I had.
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Well, combat needs to fit the game.
In a game like Fortnight, it is very simple, all combat is Damage vs Hp with the actual hitting being based on the skill of the player. This is a simple easy, hot join game, that people can jump in and play, with no real thought involved and just let their twitch skill shine.
In a game like GW2, the combat is far more complex than Fortnight, because the people that play that game want a deeper combat system, they do not want a crudely simple system, in fact, designing a build is a large part of the game itself.
Then you get into an old school game like DDO, where it has to be the most complex build and gear design system you will ever deal with.
In short, the combat needs to fit the demographic that the game developers want to target. If they are looking to target a demographic that wants super simple combat style, they make the combat simple and direct as DMG vs DEF, or something equally similar.
If they are looking for a demographic of gamers that want to think about their builds, play with checks and counters, and design and gearing being a huge part of the game, they will add in more systems and ways to design how things work.
I guess you could say, it's all about the Cheese they use to attract the right kind of mouse.