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Epic Games Snaps Up Rocket League Developer Psyonix - MMORPG.com

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Epic Games has announced that it has purchased San Diego developer, Psyonix. Psyonix is best known for Rocket League, its popular Unreal Engine game. Rocket League will be making the move to the Epic Games Store later in 2019, though, at least for the time being, it will remain for sale on Steam. Epic has further clarified that it will continue to support the Steam version with DLC, patches and any other content that is released for PC.

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  • AwakenWarriorAwakenWarrior Member UncommonPosts: 48
    Won't Rocket League have problems in Steam? This is an important question for many people.
    Tiller
  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Member RarePosts: 1,678
    edited May 2
    So they want games to be exclusive to themselves, but have no problem selling their games on Steam? I think The Great Gaben should toss all Epic games and make Epic have to provide free keys for those who can no longer play their games through Steam. Start calling Epics bluff.


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  • GutlardGutlard Member RarePosts: 602
    All I want to know is which company will be bringing me The Oasis first?

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,445
    OG_Zorvan said:
    So they want games to be exclusive to themselves, but have no problem selling their games on Steam? I think The Great Gaben should toss all Epic games and make Epic have to provide free keys for those who can no longer play their games through Steam. Start calling Epics bluff.
    Steam could refuse to sell them, but then that'd mean Steam would have to refuse profit on principle, which they don't appear to be doing.  So you want Epic to avoid it here on principle, but have no problem with Valve leaving theirs at the door?
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,090
    This sounds like an aggressive and intelligent move to undermine Steam. Rocket League remains one of the top user engagement games on Steam. 
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 18,948
    OG_Zorvan said:
    So they want games to be exclusive to themselves, but have no problem selling their games on Steam? I think The Great Gaben should toss all Epic games and make Epic have to provide free keys for those who can no longer play their games through Steam. Start calling Epics bluff.
    That would be the low road. I don't want that because it would screw even more users over. Steam should just keep doing what they're doing. Don't punish even more users to get back at Epic. I agree Epic is being shitty and trying to grab headlines by throwing its Fortnite money around.

    Maybe their users won't care. Maybe they will and this will be the sort of thing to make gamers be more careful about throwing money at GaaS games. I encourage people to join groups like r/patientgamers (in my sig) and make better purchase decisions, get off the hype train, and stop release day impulse buys. If all gamers waited 3 months or more before they bought a newly released title it would dramatically transform the industry.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,445
    Admirable, @Torval, and good luck to you all in your efforts to educate gamers...  But I can't help but feel you're trying to herd cats.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,090
    If Epic and/or Valve would like to acquire studios, the least they could do is use these to produce new original content to prop up their storefronts.
  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 32,847
    As long as they continue to support Rocket League on Steam with patches and DLC, I don't get the big deal. You can still buy it there from now through end of 2019 so again, what's the big deal?

    Honestly, if you love Steam and you own Rocket League, absolutely ZERO changes for you. If you don't own it on Steam, but want to, you still can for about 7 months. After that, there are ZERO changes for you in terms of new content, patches, etc.

    Just another tempest in a teapot and angry Steam-o-philes review bombing their rage.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,090
    edited May 2
    SBFord said:
    As long as they continue to support Rocket League on Steam with patches and DLC, I don't get the big deal. You can still buy it there from now through end of 2019 so again, what's the big deal?

    Honestly, if you love Steam and you own Rocket League, absolutely ZERO changes for you. If you don't own it on Steam, but want to, you still can for about 7 months. After that, there are ZERO changes for you in terms of new content, patches, etc.

    Just another tempest in a teapot and angry Steam-o-philes review bombing their rage.
    I agree with this point. With one caveat. If this in any way impacts the crossplay ability of Steam players, that would be an issue.
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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,850
    I guess buying the entire dev team is better value than trying to negotiate exclusive sales agreements, lol

    All that cash is burning a hole in Epic's pocket, I wonder how many more indie teams they're going to buy ?
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  • ShaighShaigh Member RarePosts: 1,966
    The big thing about this is how hard Epic will push E-sports for rocket league under their pc storefront.
    The cynic knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
  • VinterkrigVinterkrig Member UncommonPosts: 1,789

    SBFord said:

    Just another tempest in a teapot and angry Steam-o-philes review bombing their rage.



    It'd be less annoying if it were a new game, but a well established game... they say what they say now, but how long does it last before there is some benefit to being on EPIC's launcher instead? Does it become a hindrance to add people to group who are on EPIC vs Steam... another launcher, scattering your game collection to more accounts, with crap software you have to install on your PC... meh

  • BladeburaibaBladeburaiba Member UncommonPosts: 53
    As consumers, the important thing to remember here is this is a market driven war between two companies, but the fight is not for you.  Do what's best for you (be that wallet or convenience) and enjoy it while it lasts.  Neither of these companies are "good guys" or "bad guys" and neither deserve absolute loyalty or hate.

    Steam had a great idea, and reaped the benefit for a while by charging game makers as much as they wanted (but below brick and mortar, that was their competition).  Epic is using their Fortnite windfall to muscle in on this market.

    Epic ultimately is trying to get rid of Steam, and if they are successful, they'll do the same as Steam or worse.  Guaranteed.


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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member RarePosts: 1,548
    Testing to see how many customers are willing switch from Steam to Epic. Wouldn't be surprised to see other Tencent owned games like POE, SMITE, Paladins making the move next.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,090
    BruceYee said:
    Testing to see how many customers are willing switch from Steam to Epic. Wouldn't be surprised to see other Tencent owned games like POE, SMITE, Paladins making the move next.
    It would be really funny to see them get Smite as an exclusive considering their own canceled Paragon was a blatant and inferior sci-fi ripoff of Smite.
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,850
    BruceYee said:
    Testing to see how many customers are willing switch from Steam to Epic. Wouldn't be surprised to see other Tencent owned games like POE, SMITE, Paladins making the move next.
    We'll have to see how that all plays out, seeing as Tencent and Epic now have "competing online stores, lol

    https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/08/tencent-wegame-x-store-worldwide/
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,445
    BruceYee said:
    Testing to see how many customers are willing switch from Steam to Epic. Wouldn't be surprised to see other Tencent owned games like POE, SMITE, Paladins making the move next.
    As of the last report I read on Epic's install base, almost half the users don't actually have Steam installed.  

    Don't make the mistake of thinking Epic has built their install base 100% by poaching Steam users, or that was ever their plan to begin with.  That's far from the truth.  They knew they had an automatic install base through Fortnite that gave them enough eyeballs to entice these devs into the exlclusive deals in the first place.

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 18,948
    Admirable, Torval, and good luck to you all in your efforts to educate gamers...  But I can't help but feel you're trying to herd cats.
    I'm not herding or leading just offering info for the interested. There are 279K members of the sub. It already has enough mass to make the discussions work.

    The sub is about finding and discussing games you might want to play. It's not just about waiting and playing old games. People review and discuss new and old games (as gamers not content creators). This Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines is a good example of the type of threads people make.  https://www.reddit.com/r/patientgamers/comments/bjsrtv/looking_to_start_vampire_the_masquerade/

    I don't care about Rocket League. I got it free on PS+ some time ago and haven't ever played it. What this does show is how studios and publishers can hold your GaaS game hostage. Players are at their whim and fancy. Sony, Microsoft, or the studio can decide at any time to change service conditions to the game. Did I buy the game or just rent it for a year or two?

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,579
    edited May 2
     I dont see this as a very good move for Epic in the long run ,  at the time of migration Rocket League will have been out and on Steam for 5 years , most people who want to play it already own it , i dont see them ever reaching even 25% of the RL Sales steam has already had , And they have to support it on Steam .. weird move imo, and throw in its exposure on PS4 and the market shrinks further
  • SolancerSolancer Member UncommonPosts: 109
    3 cents, this move on EPIC part is to cause, user count migration and not actual sales, if say Epic manage to shift players from Steam to Epic. Epic see that's a win on population count is concern, if they are here and not over there, oh my how childish imo but its a another move but not very meaningful one.

    IMO, games that matters most would be game without online component junk/mtx/loot boxes/cash shop. So Epic can own all of those, at least this way EPIC will be on par with google play store of crappy phone games all rolled into one place. Having said that, as long as good games are not exclusive will win this war, if i were to make a wager. The free to choose store will win my money. . . so where is your wallet at?
  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,553
    edited May 2
    If you look Steam isn't really even fighting back. Maybe a good approach is just to let the scrappy dog run out of hot air. I have this feeling the whole gloves off approach with Steam is gonna end badly for Epic when it comes to drawing new folks in. In doing so they are alienating potential customers, not just hurting Steam. It's pissing off folks who might have given them a shot, but now want nothing to do with them because they are forced onto another platform. For some folks it might be easy to bounce platform to platform, but some people have built small communities in Steam (not all are meme groups), this will ruin that.

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 9,850
    edited May 3
    I'm surprised Epic haven't snatched PUBG from Steam through Tencent's deep connection to both Epic and Pubg.

    That would be a major blow to Steam.




  • sgelsgel Member RarePosts: 2,094
    Epic said they'd stop exclusives if Steam lowered their revenue share of 30%.

    All in all I don't really care.. I already run multiple launchers for different games I play and I already have EGS installed for Unreal Engine.
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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 5,929
    edited May 3
    I'm surprised Epic haven't snatched PUBG from Steam through Tencent's deep connection to both Epic and Pubg.

    That would be a major blow to Steam.
    Would it be worth it in terms of new sales though? And if it could no longer be played in Steam that - potentially - would upset Steam users; would they stick around?

    For the PUBG devs that latter point would represent a serious risk to their current success. They would be worries about this and so would be unlikely, imo, to accept an offer from Epic.

    Could Tencent influence things? Maybe. From what is reported though they seem to be hands off; owning chunks of multiple companies e.g. Activision Blizzard rather than running them.
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