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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 12,385
    It used a small percentage of your graphics card to crypto mine?
    You have just worked out the next dodgy practice for cash shop/GaaS games, thanks. :)
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  • ikcinikcin Member RarePosts: 2,206
    edited April 2019
    I do not see how that will be a sustainable marketing model. Also I do not have a problem with the cash shop. And I think most players do not. We have a problem with the quality of the gameplay, resulted by very aggressive marketing that changes the games to serve to the cash shop. By your idea, the games will serve to the cryptomining. So lower graphics, probably poor AI, much more grind, as they should push you to play 24/7.

    Kyleran said:
    No, I can afford to pay for games, in fact I can't get past the mental block that generally in life things are worth what you pay for them.  

    So F2P is basically.....worthless.
    Seriously this is one of the biggest problems of the human civilization. How do you own something? The edge is the slavery. But in general any kind of ownership leads to deep moral issues. Think about the money. What are they? In fact the cash is liability in the balance sheets. In general the money is mechanism to evaluate and exchange time. So the paying is more complicated thing, than most people think.
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,175
    Arterius said:
    I only say yes because I have no idea what Crypto mining is haha
    You're not alone, no clue what the term means.
  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,000
    Arterius said:
    I only say yes because I have no idea what Crypto mining is haha
    You're not alone, no clue what the term means.
    The September issue of The Economist was all about it. Here's a link to a paid article, but the free introductory blurb really gives you most of what you need to know:

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.economist.com/technology-quarterly/2018/08/30/how-to-put-bitcoin-into-perspective&ved=2ahUKEwjQ_Zf5z-vhAhUQy1kKHXPqBi8QFjABegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw09cZZdAhJWlTVZk9anuhf5&ampcf=1

    It was the first journalistic dive that came to mind.  If you can pick it up somewhere it was a great issue although now dated.

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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,393
    I'm good on that. I would honestly rather have in game ads on billboards or product placement or some crap. I don't want to have them using my PC for things not related to the game, especially when they could essentially change how much "small" percentage of my graphics card would be. It would be different for each user, some would provide them with a lot more others a lot less. 

    Nah, I wouldn't play that. Give me a monthly fee. 
  • jonp200jonp200 Member UncommonPosts: 455
    I would happily pay for a game and pay a monthly sub if I received decent timely content and patches. 

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  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,119
    What is wrong with people these days.
  • UngoodUngood Member EpicPosts: 2,853
    Depends on a few factors.

    1: What kind of access to my graphics card are we talking about, if it starts doing shit once I shut down the game, that's gonna piss me off.

    2: How good the game is.

    3: If I am drunk at the time.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,366
    It used a small percentage of your graphics card to crypto mine?
    Your question is false.  It is not in fact completely free if they are using your machine to mine crypto.
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  • Mtibbs1989Mtibbs1989 Member UncommonPosts: 3,142
    Absolutely not, crypto currency mining would diminish the performance of my computer. Meaning it would affect my gameplay and I'd rather keep my games running at 144 FPS @1440p on ultra settings.
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  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 4,336
    How about I just PAY for it instead.
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  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    And then comes the reality that they snuck some spyware onto your computer that starts mining randomly even when you don't have the game launched.

    Any company that would offer this service wouldn't be above taking that approach.
  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,054
    No I don't like the idea. . I am not even solid on why. . I guess I would need it to be completely transparent to be a yes but I would rather just play. . it seems like a slippery slope. . would it continue while I was not playing. . would it up the hashrate later. . different people would be "paying" different amounts based on their graphics cards etc. 

    It is an interesting idea.  I think there are a few mobile apps that were considering that.

    It just would just seem to invasive even if it wasn't.


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  • WBadgerWBadger Member UncommonPosts: 305
    There's a difference between a game shoving a cash shop into your face versus actually wearing down the hardware components in your computer.  You can ignore the salesman who keeps stopping infront of you to show you the blenders in his coat. You can't ignore the salesman who just broke the window in one of the rooms in your house to set up a lemonade stand out the side.
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  • jeeshadowjeeshadow Member UncommonPosts: 134
    This is like asking "would you wear the hottest ever leather trousers if it meant random weirdos could hose you down from time to time with a torrent of LIVE SLUGS?"
    Good point.
    Wait, do I look the hottest in these leather pants?  Or are the pants just the hottest pair of leather pants of all time?  How much attention am I getting when I wear these pants?  
    Is it good attention?

    And about the slugs, you mean snails without shells right?  does said "weirdo" have a machine that launches them at me?  How fast are they going?  Could I solve the weirdo problem if I pre-salted my hot pants?
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,175
    Can someone explain how our video cards crypto mine?
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  • jimmywolfjimmywolf Member UncommonPosts: 242
    never followed it too closely as i think it all a scam so my info mit be off

     (  kudos to those that profited from getting in and out early )


    that i know of it require something about data,  your card processes the data after X time doing that it mines a coin. rinse, repeat, that how coins are mined and people try an profit.



  • centkincentkin Member RarePosts: 1,485
    It is wrong in the same way sending junk ads to someone's fax number is wrong. 
  • ShaddyDaddyShaddyDaddy Member UncommonPosts: 164
    DMKano said:
    Nope.

    I mean there are lots of completely free games that don't have crypto miners built in.

    IMO really awesome games dont need cryptominers in their clients. 

    If a client has a miner built in - to me that means the game is almost certainly low quality and not worth playing. 
    This. All of this. 
  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,372
    edited April 2019
    I'd need reassurances:

    1. That the game is worth it
    2. That the amount is constant(1-2%)
    3. ABSOLUTELY no malware! Game shuts down = mining stops
    4. That the game's AI etc weren't impacted much by this
    5. TRANSPARENCY. Meaning, state what it is you are doing, how etc
    6. That the money mined goes towards brand's future, not towards CEO's yacht

    ///

    Given the number of conditions, I'll have to pass the offer. But I'm open to it, in theory. Why waste money needlessly? Because it'd look like a dumpster fire in reality, with about 74% likelyhood.
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    It used a small percentage of your graphics card to crypto mine?
    Your question is false.  It is not in fact completely free if they are using your machine to mine crypto.
    There is also the question of how much resources it uses, if it was whatever resources your GPU had that wasn't needed by the game, then all i can say is 'hell no' because who wants their GPU running at 100% load for long periods of time, it uses a lot of power and there is a gradual degredation of the GPU itself, both those things = $$ and probably far more than a monthly subscription would cost by orders of magnitude. If i was going to have my PC mine crypto i would build a dedicated machine for it, not my gaming rig! :o
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