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Star Citizen's Chris Roberts Opines on 'Saving Anthem' - MMORPG.com

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,493
    edited April 21

    lahnmir said:


    jarsku85 said:





    Hey Chris... how about not talking about someone else's game until you actually release yours?








    He has over 20 games out :)


    That totally saved Richard Garriot too! And I have much more respect for his legacy, it doesn’t make SotA a good game though.

    /Cheers,
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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,023
    "A lot of gamers don't understand quite how difficult it is to deliver everything working flawlessly," "The expectations keep ramping up and may be higher than people are humanly possible of delivering."

    Chris Robber doesn't seem to understand that if you rush development you release Anthem while If you take your development time seriously you release The Witcher 3.




  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,833
    "A lot of gamers don't understand quite how difficult it is to deliver everything working flawlessly," "The expectations keep ramping up and may be higher than people are humanly possible of delivering."

    Chris Robber doesn't seem to understand that if you rush development you release Anthem while If you take your development time seriously you release The Witcher 3.
    Ohh Chris knows, he isn’t rushing anything himself now is he?  ;)

    /Cheers,
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  • mraneremranere Member UncommonPosts: 22
    Isn't that space opera game of yours still in alpha after 10 years of taking people's money for every little thing? I don't see where he said how he would fix Anthem anywhere. Aside from getting off BW's back and being nice to them for delivering an unfinished game that is still broken as hell.
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,493
    edited April 21


    "A lot of gamers don't understand quite how
    difficult it is to deliver everything working flawlessly," "The expectations keep ramping up and may be higher than people
    are humanly possible of delivering."

    Chris Robber doesn't seem to understand that if you rush development you release Anthem while If you take your development time seriously you release The Witcher 3.



    With how much time Chris is taking with SC, it better put Witcher 3 to shame then. As someone mentioned earlier though, I think he's just getting himself ready for when his project(s) "dont meet players' unreasonable expectations."
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  • rodarinrodarin Member RarePosts: 2,451
    Irony of ironies he is channeling his own Derek Smart here....
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  • JoeBloberJoeBlober Member UncommonPosts: 234
    Site copying/pasting other site using click-bait article.... Lol.

    In short those raging will pretend CR did intend to say the worst while indeed he was very balanced toward problems of others studios AND player expectation.

    Beside that 3.5 is amazing and keep receiving small patch regularly (another one this Sunday).
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  • JoeBloberJoeBlober Member UncommonPosts: 234

    Elsabolts said:

    Elite Dangerous seems to do pretty well, promise made, promise kept. Others could learn from them.



    Not really. What they deliver was basic and 3 years later, we got another targoids attacks with different shapes and colors plus a graphic refresh.
    But it does not matter. ED, EVE, NMS, SC do have different scope and this totally fine. More space game is better.
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    edited April 21

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  • JoeBloberJoeBlober Member UncommonPosts: 234

    Albatroes said:





    "A lot of gamers don't understand quite how

    difficult it is to deliver everything working flawlessly," "The expectations keep ramping up and may be higher than people

    are humanly possible of delivering."

    Chris Robber doesn't seem to understand that if you rush development you release Anthem while If you take your development time seriously you release The Witcher 3.






    With how much time Chris is taking with SC, it better put Witcher 3 to shame then. As someone mentioned earlier though, I think he's just getting himself ready for when his project(s) "dont meet players' unreasonable expectations."



    It is not CR getting himself ready but CR communicating to all that unreasonable expectations are just... unreasonable.
    Any gamer around know there is a gap between a project and final product. We are lucky enough to have such a great CIG team. We got two Triple-A for 35$ (early backer) :)
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  • JoeBloberJoeBlober Member UncommonPosts: 234


    "A lot of gamers don't understand quite how
    difficult it is to deliver everything working flawlessly," "The expectations keep ramping up and may be higher than people
    are humanly possible of delivering."

    Chris Robber doesn't seem to understand that if you rush development you release Anthem while If you take your development time seriously you release The Witcher 3.



    Lol. CR did exactly the opposite. Saying the guy don't understand rushing vs quality is at best a joke.
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    edited April 21
    JoeBlober said:
    Site copying/pasting other site using click-bait article.... Lol.

    In short those raging will pretend CR did intend to say the worst while indeed he was very balanced toward problems of others studios AND player expectation.

    Beside that 3.5 is amazing and keep receiving small patch regularly (another one this Sunday).
    Newsweek magazine is hardly a click bait site, but is instead a reputable news publication. In fact, the entire interview was specifically on the topic of Roberts' thoughts on "saving" Anthem. The words are his, not the original author's. I fail to see your point. 

    I honestly think that, in some ways, he has a point about player expectations and what is humanly possible by any development studio.  

    That said, saying that gamers are to blame for studios that don't deliver playable games that are clearly missing tons of features clearly shows he wasn't too concerned about the optics of that opinion, something a studio head and CEO should have a better handle on.

    I don't have an axe to grind against Star Citizen. When it is released, I'll take a look. Until then, it's just another game in development.
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  • JoeBloberJoeBlober Member UncommonPosts: 234

    DrunkWolf said:

    Sounds to me like he is practicing excuses for failure. hmmm i wonder why?



    Yes same to me. I wonder why. probably because the explanation is not matching what he explained? Beta in 5 quarters does not sounds like an excuse for failure, all starting from scratch with 12 guys and zero pipelines 6 end of Nov. 2012 :)
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    @JoeBlober Not sure if you know or not, but you can quote multiple posts and respond to them in a single post. Just quote the ones you want and all will appear in the "leave a comment" box and you can respond to each in kind. 
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  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,197

    jarsku85 said:





    Hey Chris... how about not talking about someone else's game until you actually release yours?








    He has over 20 games out :)



    And when was the last time he released one? How long has his current game been in development?
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  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,197

    JoeBlober said:



    Albatroes said:








    "A lot of gamers don't understand quite how


    difficult it is to deliver everything working flawlessly," "The expectations keep ramping up and may be higher than people


    are humanly possible of delivering."

    Chris Robber doesn't seem to understand that if you rush development you release Anthem while If you take your development time seriously you release The Witcher 3.









    With how much time Chris is taking with SC, it better put Witcher 3 to shame then. As someone mentioned earlier though, I think he's just getting himself ready for when his project(s) "dont meet players' unreasonable expectations."






    It is not CR getting himself ready but CR communicating to all that unreasonable expectations are just... unreasonable.

    Any gamer around know there is a gap between a project and final product. We are lucky enough to have such a great CIG team. We got two Triple-A for 35$ (early backer) :)



    Right now, you have nothing but pictures of pixel ships and a tech demo.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,063
    SBFord said:
    JoeBlober said:
    Site copying/pasting other site using click-bait article.... Lol.

    In short those raging will pretend CR did intend to say the worst while indeed he was very balanced toward problems of others studios AND player expectation.

    Beside that 3.5 is amazing and keep receiving small patch regularly (another one this Sunday).
    Newsweek magazine is hardly a click bait site, but is instead a reputable news publication. In fact, the entire interview was specifically on the topic of Roberts' thoughts on "saving" Anthem. The words are his, not the original author's. I fail to see your point. 

    I honestly think that, in some ways, he has a point about player expectations and what is humanly possible by any development studio.  

    That said, saying that gamers are to blame for studios that don't deliver playable games that are clearly missing tons of features clearly shows he wasn't too concerned about the optics of that opinion, something a studio head and CEO should have a better handle on.

    I don't have an axe to grind against Star Citizen. When it is released, I'll take a look. Until then, it's just another game in development.
    Studios set expectations. Not players.   The problem is that they try to set they unrealistically high when shilling for cash, but then explain how people shouldn't actually expect them to do what they said when it comes time to deliver...

    When you build the hype you do not get to later complain about it.

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  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,358
    edited April 21
    Chris why would you poke the hornet's nest. Don't care how I felt as a game developer or which side I stood on. I would not have commented on gave an opinion on the matter, even if asked.
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  • rapatpamprapatpamp Member UncommonPosts: 126
    So a guy who's working on the biggest scam in gaming history is saying how he'd fix another game???

    Wow lol.
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  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,113
    JoeBlober said:

    Elsabolts said:

    Elite Dangerous seems to do pretty well, promise made, promise kept. Others could learn from them.



    Not really. What they deliver was basic and 3 years later, we got another targoids attacks with different shapes and colors plus a graphic refresh.
    But it does not matter. ED, EVE, NMS, SC do have different scope and this totally fine. More space game is better.
    Stop lying about other games to promote yours.
    FD has added and refined a lot of stuff since ED's launch.
    Feel free to not like it, but it's silly to lie publicly when you can so easily be called out.

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  • MythlaMythla Member UncommonPosts: 17

    hfztt said:

    So, its the players fault?

    They set their expectations to high?

    Not the developers overselling their product?



    Who would have thought he would go for that argument...



    Lol!



    Not sure if you're being willfully obtuse in your oversimplification of what he actually said, or if that's somehow what you actually took away from the article...
  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member UncommonPosts: 303
    What about all the PS4 owners with bricked consoles from the Anthem crashing. Fuck Anthem and fuck Chris Roberts
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  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,619
    He should worry about saving his own games and company.
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  • shinjiFRshinjiFR Member CommonPosts: 8
    stupide post... we have buy game for 60€ and it's a no't a fucking beta.... we buy AAA realease and we have a fucking ALPHA with only 16month of work.... and we can no't complain from this ? i don't think so....
  • hfztthfztt Member RarePosts: 1,341

    Mythla said:



    hfztt said:


    So, its the players fault?


    They set their expectations to high?


    Not the developers overselling their product?





    Who would have thought he would go for that argument...





    Lol!






    Not sure if you're being willfully obtuse in your oversimplification of what he actually said, or if that's somehow what you actually took away from the article...



    It is what I took away from it. It IS a simplification, but not an oversimplification. He totally are blaming the players and not the developers.
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