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Astellia Devs on 'Dungeoneering' & Its Unique Take on Dungeon Runs - MMORPG.com

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,070
    edited April 9




    Albatroes said:


    You dont need to listen to the commentary, just look at how the game performs.....save your money and let this garbage go f2p like it was originally going to before seeing how desperate people are in the western market thanks to bless:






    I played the KR version for many months. The optimization was extremely smooth for me except in a few highly populated areas (the pvp map avalon and the central town) where you would experience some FPS drops. I honestly have absolutely no idea what on earth he did to his game in order to get it to run that horrible. I get that the game content/style may not be for everyone but please don't base the optimization of the game off his video as that is absolutely not what 99% of us experience on the discord that play the KR version.



    Well, he was playing the Korean version on a vpn right? Doesn't that contribute to lag?

    That was my first thought when I watched that. Still, not a bad first impressions video. I'm not interested in the game but I'm sure there will be an audience.



  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,196
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 20,998
    Every game is different. Just because you don't like game A doesn't mean that you'll also dislike game B that isn't particularly similar to game A.
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,492
    I can't wait for Astellia Unleashed to be announced soon after this fails....
    doomexGroqstrong
  • reizogamesreizogames Member UncommonPosts: 7
    edited April 9
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,873
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
    Since Trions fateful demise , some people here have become , bitter towards the industry as a whole , and enjoys peeing in every one elses cereal
    reizogamesChildoftheShadowsMikehaTacticalZombehtruewarlord
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 20,998
    Even if they're shutting down Kritika Online, I still had fun playing it before that.  Same with Hyper Universe.
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,126
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
    I don't know about this game, but I just wish they would also release some of the newer mmorpgs. Most of the time it's an old mmorpg releasing to the west in a B2P model so they're sure they'll get some money incase it flops in the west aswell.
    reizogames

  • reizogamesreizogames Member UncommonPosts: 7

    Bloodaxes said:




    DMKano said:




    DMKano said:


    Hariken said:

    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.



    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.


    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha




    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 




    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.


    I don't know about this game, but I just wish they would also release some of the newer mmorpgs. Most of the time it's an old mmorpg releasing to the west in a B2P model so they're sure they'll get some money incase it flops in the west aswell.



    Yeah I can definitely see that in the case for a few mmorpgs like Bless, Blade & Soul, etc... However Astellia just released at the end of last year around the same time as Lost Ark. I do wish we got some of the newer mmorpgs closer to the time they released in KR, but I think this one is releasing pretty close to the KR version. At this point I'm just happy to get any new mmo's here. I got burned by Bless as well with how the company handled it. But I payed $20 to get a good 150+ hours out of it and enjoyed myself. There were just too many issues and not enough changes/fixes to keep the game going. Even if Astellia has a short run here I'll still make sure to get my enjoyment out of it :)
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,196
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
    Since Trions fateful demise , some people here have become , bitter towards the industry as a whole , and enjoys peeing in every one elses cereal

    IMO I am just watching the mmo industry swirling in the toilet bowl and calling it like I see it.

    Trion is dead and gone and was a spec of dust in the great scheme of things, a non-factor.

    Look at the rest of the industry- just look at the layoffs, shut downs and downturn in general.

    It would take an exceptionally great MMO to survive in this market - and Astelia is far removed from that.

    Call it bitterness or whatever you like, it's one persons opinion - disagree with me all you like


    UneecornManWithNoTan
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,196
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.


    If my posts are too negative for you - put me on ignore or report me to mods.

    In the end it's just my opinion- the game is crap and soon lots of western players will see just how crappy it is first hand, nothing I say or anyone else can say can change what happens when people try it first hand.


    Uneecorn
  • QuarterStackQuarterStack Member RarePosts: 407
    edited April 9
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
    That's DMKano's raison d'etre. Like his long-winded kindred spirit, Wizardry, he shows up on countless threads, for games he supposedly don't like or care about, just to tell everyone else how horrible they are and how badly they'll fail.

    Why would they do that? That's a great question. To "hear themselves talk" maybe?

    As for the game itself... I'm open to trying any game and giving it a chance, regardless of what others or even "the majority" might think or predict.  I'll likely give this a spin as well.

    One thing that irks me about MMORPGs made with UE3 - especially Korean titles - is that they typically *look* like UE3 engine games, and have a very similar art-style. I could look at video or screenshots for Astellia and mistake it for TERA, for example. I love the UE3, but I do get tired of feeling like I'm looking at the same game.

    reizogames
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,196
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
    That's DMKano's raison d'etre, like his longer-winded, cut-from-the-same-cloth spirit-cousin, Wizardry.

    They both show up on countless threads, for games they supposedly don't like or care about, just to repeatedly tell everyone else how bad they are and how badly they'll fail.

    Why would they do that? Self edification maybe?


    Its observation- when you see a train wreck about to happen - I usually will say something before it happens to avert disaster. 

    /shrug
    Uneecorn
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,873
    edited April 9
    DMKano said:
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
    Since Trions fateful demise , some people here have become , bitter towards the industry as a whole , and enjoys peeing in every one elses cereal

    IMO I am just watching the mmo industry swirling in the toilet bowl and calling it like I see it.

    Trion is dead and gone and was a spec of dust in the great scheme of things, a non-factor.

    Look at the rest of the industry- just look at the layoffs, shut downs and downturn in general.

    It would take an exceptionally great MMO to survive in this market - and Astelia is far removed from that.

    Call it bitterness or whatever you like, it's one persons opinion - disagree with me all you like


    The industry got bloated , it is now trimming its own fat , Bad Games and Devs that used questionable and invasive monetary systems are being purged , the good Games and Devs are doing fine .. and will continue to .. (as a matter a fact ESO,FF14 and WOW have shown increseased players)Thew industry could not support the explosion that followed Wows success for long before caving in on itself , compounded by a non Trade Agreement with china.. Has effected the industry as a whole ..

      Good Devs and games will be fine , we needed to trim the fat in the genre anyway it was full of terrible games and Devs ... Good Riddance
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,196
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
    Since Trions fateful demise , some people here have become , bitter towards the industry as a whole , and enjoys peeing in every one elses cereal

    IMO I am just watching the mmo industry swirling in the toilet bowl and calling it like I see it.

    Trion is dead and gone and was a spec of dust in the great scheme of things, a non-factor.

    Look at the rest of the industry- just look at the layoffs, shut downs and downturn in general.

    It would take an exceptionally great MMO to survive in this market - and Astelia is far removed from that.

    Call it bitterness or whatever you like, it's one persons opinion - disagree with me all you like


    The industry got bloated , it is now trimming its own fat , Bad Games and Devs that used questionable and invasive monetary systems are being purged , the good Games and Devs are doing fine .. and will continue to .. (as a matter a fact ESO,FF14 and WOW have shown increseased players)Thew industry could not support the explosion that followed Wows success for long before caving in on itself , compounded by a non Trade Agreement with china.. Has effected the industry as a whole ..

      Good Devs and games will be fine , we needed to trim the fat in the genre anyway it was full of terrible games and Devs ... Good Riddance

    I don't share your enthusiasm - nobody is doing "fine" ESO certainly isnt, their sales are down and they are hoping their next project infuses some life into ZoS


    FF14 has been bleeding players, as has WoW 

    I guess maybe this is fine to you - certainly not fine to the game companies. 

    You didn't mention one game that is actually doing fine - 
    BDO i- due to them fleecing the players in the cash shop. 

    I guess that didnt fit into your good devs/good games list so you didnt mention it


  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,873
    DMKano said:
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
    Since Trions fateful demise , some people here have become , bitter towards the industry as a whole , and enjoys peeing in every one elses cereal

    IMO I am just watching the mmo industry swirling in the toilet bowl and calling it like I see it.

    Trion is dead and gone and was a spec of dust in the great scheme of things, a non-factor.

    Look at the rest of the industry- just look at the layoffs, shut downs and downturn in general.

    It would take an exceptionally great MMO to survive in this market - and Astelia is far removed from that.

    Call it bitterness or whatever you like, it's one persons opinion - disagree with me all you like


    The industry got bloated , it is now trimming its own fat , Bad Games and Devs that used questionable and invasive monetary systems are being purged , the good Games and Devs are doing fine .. and will continue to .. (as a matter a fact ESO,FF14 and WOW have shown increseased players)Thew industry could not support the explosion that followed Wows success for long before caving in on itself , compounded by a non Trade Agreement with china.. Has effected the industry as a whole ..

      Good Devs and games will be fine , we needed to trim the fat in the genre anyway it was full of terrible games and Devs ... Good Riddance

    I don't share your enthusiasm - nobody is doing "fine" ESO certainly isnt, their sales are down and they are hoping their next project infuses some life into ZoS


    FF14 has been bleeding players, as has WoW 

    I guess maybe this is fine to you - certainly not fine to the game companies. 

    You didn't mention one game that is actually doing fine - 
    BDO i- due to them fleecing the players in the cash shop. 

    I guess that didnt fit into your good devs/good games list so you didnt mention it


    Of course you dont , your enthusiasm was folded up like a lawn chair when Trion was purged , you White Knighted them for years , and told us nothing was wrong when many of us complained and said there was .. Since you have been bitter an attack nearly every single game news that comes down the pike ..

      The industry will be fine , and trust me i literally have millions still invested in it .. i have not blinked , and only have seen gains recently in EA , FCMKF ,SE ..

      The Industry is like i said trimming its own fat and settling comfortably back into its own roots, it will be fine , Its actually i good oppurtunity to make money..

      to bad Trion was part of the fat trimming , but they deserved it
    truewarlord
  • Cyber_wastelandCyber_wasteland Member UncommonPosts: 180
    edited April 9
    No open world PvP, tab target combat(Maybe IdK if they are going to change it) It might bomb it might not, or it might just be sub par and have a trickle fan base. Whatever still going to give it a shot when it comes out. Wont know if you like something until you give it a try. Between the big dogs and your toxic PvP mmo's there is not a whole lot out there so I am sure hoping something will land and stick.

  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,196
    edited April 9
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Hariken said:
    They claim the Western version will be different from Lazy Peons game play. Just have to wait and see first.

    Different to what extent? Like 1% different and 99% the same?

    Not to sound extremely negative but - other than  a full redo from scratch, no amount of changes can save this game.
    I'm sorry but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean everyone won't.  There is a good chunk of us on discord waiting for the game with more joining daily.  We should be happy about more MMO options being available instead of being constantly negative like you seem to be haha


    Did I say everyone?

    I am saying that the game will have minimal traction and will be facing shutdown within a year.

    Of course there will.be some that will like it- hell there are still people playing Bless and lots of other garbage games.

    But let's get real - this game will be a dud financially 

    Well if that's the case then why not stop going around on every Astellia article calling it "subpar in every aspect" and that "nothing can save this game"? We should be happy that we are getting more options for MMO's. If you didn't like it that's perfectly fine...but you don't see me going to every MMO I dislike saying it's horrible, subpar, avoid it, not worth time,etc... I'm just saying if the game doesn't suit your tastes you don't have to go to every article to be negative.
    Since Trions fateful demise , some people here have become , bitter towards the industry as a whole , and enjoys peeing in every one elses cereal

    IMO I am just watching the mmo industry swirling in the toilet bowl and calling it like I see it.

    Trion is dead and gone and was a spec of dust in the great scheme of things, a non-factor.

    Look at the rest of the industry- just look at the layoffs, shut downs and downturn in general.

    It would take an exceptionally great MMO to survive in this market - and Astelia is far removed from that.

    Call it bitterness or whatever you like, it's one persons opinion - disagree with me all you like


    The industry got bloated , it is now trimming its own fat , Bad Games and Devs that used questionable and invasive monetary systems are being purged , the good Games and Devs are doing fine .. and will continue to .. (as a matter a fact ESO,FF14 and WOW have shown increseased players)Thew industry could not support the explosion that followed Wows success for long before caving in on itself , compounded by a non Trade Agreement with china.. Has effected the industry as a whole ..

      Good Devs and games will be fine , we needed to trim the fat in the genre anyway it was full of terrible games and Devs ... Good Riddance

    I don't share your enthusiasm - nobody is doing "fine" ESO certainly isnt, their sales are down and they are hoping their next project infuses some life into ZoS


    FF14 has been bleeding players, as has WoW 

    I guess maybe this is fine to you - certainly not fine to the game companies. 

    You didn't mention one game that is actually doing fine - 
    BDO i- due to them fleecing the players in the cash shop. 

    I guess that didnt fit into your good devs/good games list so you didnt mention it


    Of course you dont , your enthusiasm was folded up like a lawn chair when Trion was purged , you White Knighted them for years , and told us nothing was wrong when many of us complained and said there was .. Since you have been bitter an attack nearly every single game news that comes down the pike ..

      The industry will be fine , and trust me i literally have millions still invested in it .. i have not blinked , and only have seen gains recently in EA , FCMKF ,SE ..

      The Industry is like i said trimming its own fat and settling comfortably back into its own roots, it will be fine , Its actually i good oppurtunity to make money..

      to bad Trion was part of the fat trimming , but they deserved it

    Trion 100% deserved everything that came to them in the end. They mismanaged money foolishy and paid for it.

    The video game industry will be fine.

    The MMO industry - maybe.

    The MMORPG industry - it's dead jim.

    Good thing there are so many amazing single player games out there - downloaded Operencia yesterday - having a blast 
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,492
    edited April 10
    Bless Online deja vu with some of these comments....I'm so happy Neowiz proved me wrong... For the last time, these asian developers do not know how to tool UE3 to properly develop a mmorpg. Will it look 'pretty'? Sure. But it'll be optimized like garbage with an actual amount of people playing. If its 'running great for you' chances are there's not that many people playing. That's why Bless Online's optimization got 'better' over time, because less and less people were playing.
  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member UncommonPosts: 133
    I like how the dev team takes a Dungeon loot/ranking system that has been around and still very much present in Korean ActionMMO's's for the better part of a decade, gives it a name "Dungeoneering", and advertising it like it's some fresh new experience.

    Are these people just out-of-touch with reality or something? A unique-twist? what? How is something that's been a common system in Korean mmorpg's unique?
    DMKanoTorval

  • Grimz_DragonGrimz_Dragon Member UncommonPosts: 5
    We should not even have Dungeon tickets in an mmo.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,022
    edited April 10
    i'm not willing to waste my money on westernized asian mmorpgs that will shut down any day. Instead of trying to cater to the west and fail, just add english subtitles/menus to the korean version and let everyone in.

    I want to play a good asian mmorpg with traditional controls but everything that comes to the west is dead on arrival.






  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    edited April 10
    Gender locked loli pantsu Korean MMORPGs using Unreal Engine aren't westernized... they're cash-grabized.

    A Western developer just needs to lock Jake Song and his core team in a room use all their good work and attention to detail and smack Jake upside the head whenever he starts grumbling about  P2W/RNG mechanics.
    TorvalCyber_wasteland
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • ArteanArtean Member UncommonPosts: 215
    I just found an abandoned door to a basement. I went down and there where you guys sitting, alone, discussing a Korean mmorpg. Cute.

    .............
    When in doubt, troll.

  • Rain_DeathravenRain_Deathraven Member UncommonPosts: 87
    Korean game is like a MEME these days
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