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Another Fiasco- Transfers, Trade-Ins and Claiming disabled

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 12,435
    I have no reason to doubt someone else messed up here but what made me laugh was how many days were lost with his decision to make a voxel game in tandem with CoE? Months? Taking his colleges mistakes with grace is a lesson he should not have to learn.
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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 254
    This is the biggest problem with them using discord or really anyone. It's all said in the moment. Nothing is reread before they hit send, so naturally it's not hard to catch when people are stressed. 

    Him saying the date of DSS. Something many of us have pointed out in the past. Is a terrible idea. Mostly cause SBS still has stuff to do. They could logically say something about DSS by the 14th, then release it by the end of the month and it would all be fine. But it's pressure they put onto themselves, wasn't needed.

    While saying everything is coming "soon" has really lost all meaning. Better to say nothing over them possibly getting another delay. Doesn't take much for everything to get pushed way back. This was the perfect chance for them to finally hit a date. Build some trust back up, get everyone active again. If they miss it, well it's just another fuck up in a long line of them.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,378
    Torrsk said:
    This was the perfect chance for them to finally hit a date. Build some trust back up, get everyone active again. If they miss it, well it's just another fuck up in a long line of them.
    He only gave the date (actually a vague "first part of April" window) just 3 weeks ago.  It's currently the "first part of April" so we are in that window.  I guess he has the rest of the week to be in the window so he may yet hit it :smile:

    He is always whining about the "Cone of Uncertainty".  How big of a cone does he need to hit a target 3 weeks in the future?  I mean... this was a layup.  The only way it could have been easier was if he gave an ETA the day after it released.  And this isn't even part of the actual game.  He pulled people that were actually working on the game to come and work on his web event...  All so he could squeeze in yet another sale by tying it to the "Kickstarterversary" in May.

    But luckily he was able to remind us that this fiasco wasn't his fault.  It was the fault of "other smart people". 

    We are 25% through the year.  So far "the Storm" he promised has been nothing short of a fizzle.

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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 254
    He only gave the date (actually a vague "first part of April" window) just 3 weeks ago.  It's currently the "first part of April" so we are in that window.  I guess he has the rest of the week to be in the window so he may yet hit it :smile:

    He is always whining about the "Cone of Uncertainty".  How big of a cone does he need to hit a target 3 weeks in the future?  I mean... this was a layup.  The only way it could have been easier was if he gave an ETA the day after it released.  And this isn't even part of the actual game.  He pulled people that were actually working on the game to come and work on his web event...  All so he could squeeze in yet another sale by tying it to the "Kickstarterversary" in May.


    Depends if the first part of April, counts as the first two weeks. That's how I took it anyway. Which either way seemed very possible before the titled transfers stuffed up. Still somewhat possible if they fix the issue soon and DSS doesn't start until the end of April.

    I can tell you many of us are even more pissed about that. We were told over and over "these sales/events aren't slowing down the game at all". To now where that's all some lie. I figured it wasn't true, but then thought maybe it's not slowing stuff down by much. One of those, surely he knows everyone is thinking it's BS so why lie about it moment.

    I really just want DSS to happen soon, so I can pick my domain and really go inactive. Never really cared for pre-elyria. And Alpha 1, I could skip that until beta hits. 
    craftseeker
  • craftseekercraftseeker Member RarePosts: 1,740
    Torrsk said:
    He only gave the date (actually a vague "first part of April" window) just 3 weeks ago.  It's currently the "first part of April" so we are in that window.  I guess he has the rest of the week to be in the window so he may yet hit it :smile:

    He is always whining about the "Cone of Uncertainty".  How big of a cone does he need to hit a target 3 weeks in the future?  I mean... this was a layup.  The only way it could have been easier was if he gave an ETA the day after it released.  And this isn't even part of the actual game.  He pulled people that were actually working on the game to come and work on his web event...  All so he could squeeze in yet another sale by tying it to the "Kickstarterversary" in May.


    Depends if the first part of April, counts as the first two weeks. That's how I took it anyway. Which either way seemed very possible before the titled transfers stuffed up. Still somewhat possible if they fix the issue soon and DSS doesn't start until the end of April.

    I can tell you many of us are even more pissed about that. We were told over and over "these sales/events aren't slowing down the game at all". To now where that's all some lie. I figured it wasn't true, but then thought maybe it's not slowing stuff down by much. One of those, surely he knows everyone is thinking it's BS so why lie about it moment.

    I really just want DSS to happen soon, so I can pick my domain and really go inactive. Never really cared for pre-elyria. And Alpha 1, I could skip that until beta hits. 
    Why not claim that the first part of April includes all of the first twenty nine days and most of the thirtieth?

    If you announce something three weeks before delivery it really should already be in testing and about to be packaged for delivery.
    Slapshot1188Gdemami
  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member RarePosts: 1,224
    "Mistakes were made regarding (blah) and we are working to resolve it."

    Pretty difficult to say I guess.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,378
    "Mistakes were made regarding (blah) and we are working to resolve it."

    Pretty difficult to say I guess.
    Must have been some mess because as of now they still have this disabled.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,911
    "Mistakes were made regarding (blah) and we are working to resolve it."

    Pretty difficult to say I guess.
    Must have been some mess because as of now they still have this disabled.
    Perhaps they need to hire a few more "smarter people?"

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,378
    Kyleran said:
    "Mistakes were made regarding (blah) and we are working to resolve it."

    Pretty difficult to say I guess.
    Must have been some mess because as of now they still have this disabled.
    Perhaps they need to hire a few more "smarter people?"

    :D
    Or just one who takes ownership ?
    ScotKyleran

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,911
    Kyleran said:
    "Mistakes were made regarding (blah) and we are working to resolve it."

    Pretty difficult to say I guess.
    Must have been some mess because as of now they still have this disabled.
    Perhaps they need to hire a few more "smarter people?"

    :D
    Or just one who takes ownership ?
    Goodness, next you'll want accountability, where does it all end, with someone being responsible?
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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 254
    Why not claim that the first part of April includes all of the first twenty nine days and most of the thirtieth?

    If you announce something three weeks before delivery it really should already be in testing and about to be packaged for delivery.
    Just how I understand things. Split up in two parts, but each to their own. 

    I guess we will see today.. tomorrow.. whichever the timezone is it. Going off discord, Caspian said about giving a date for DSS. While title transfers are still down and IP hasn't been given out. I see this going smoothly lol
    Slapshot1188craftseeker
  • coretex666coretex666 Member EpicPosts: 3,718
    Some day in the future "Sorry to all backers, but we are terminating the development of CoE. It was not my fault, some other people from the team screwed up".
  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,530
    Some day in the future "Sorry to all backers, but we are terminating the development of CoE. It was not my fault, some other people from the team screwed up".
    I do hope they outsource the hiring of the bus that everyone is going to get thrown under.



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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,378
    Torrsk said:
    Why not claim that the first part of April includes all of the first twenty nine days and most of the thirtieth?

    If you announce something three weeks before delivery it really should already be in testing and about to be packaged for delivery.
    Just how I understand things. Split up in two parts, but each to their own. 

    I guess we will see today.. tomorrow.. whichever the timezone is it. Going off discord, Caspian said about giving a date for DSS. While title transfers are still down and IP hasn't been given out. I see this going smoothly lol
    Well... he stated on Discord that his announcement is delayed until Monday and that he would miss the first part of April date. Not a shock as it’s already April 5th. Chalk up another missed date.

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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 254
    Was hyped to see when the date for DSS would be. To get a post announcing they will announce that on Monday. No idea what could have happened in 24 hours to push back saying something today.

    I'll now expect come Monday, there will be another post delaying the announcement post. Then when the post finally comes around. I know DSS won't happen at least until May. Can't happen during the holidays now. I am once again utterly confused why they ever talk about any date or just talk in general about things that aren't finished.

    This would have been the perfect thing to push out on time. If they just shut the hell up and didn't leak crap all over discord. That would have been fine. Of course the white knights are defending them like crazy.
  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    If his bumbling crew would just get their blasted work done, he wouldn't have to keep delaying stuff.  He's been waiting on them for what seems like forever, but they just can't seem to get it together.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,378
    Mendel said:
    Some day in the future "Sorry to all backers, but we are terminating the development of CoE. It was not my fault, some other people from the team screwed up".
    I do hope they outsource the hiring of the bus that everyone is going to get thrown under.



    They can't outsource it.  But they have a way to make a better bus (this one will actually fly) in a fraction of the time and cost that a normal bus takes to create!  They will hire many "smart people" to build it.

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  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Member EpicPosts: 1,961
    I'd rather have a spirited debate with Derek Smart than even say "Hi" to this Caspian buffoon.
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  • aRtFuLThinGaRtFuLThinG Member UncommonPosts: 1,384
    edited April 2019
    Caspian sounded like a typical MOBA silver league or below player who claims the whole team suck but himself when they are losing a march.
  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 254
    Caspian sounded like a typical MOBA silver league or below player who claims the whole team suck but himself when they are losing a march.
    Well that's the thing. Even if others are at fault. He is the one that keeps hyping people up with dates. Which is causing most of the problems. I doubt they are all that happy about it either. But he doesn't seem to want to listen to anyone on that front.
    Gdemami
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,378
    Torrsk said:
    Caspian sounded like a typical MOBA silver league or below player who claims the whole team suck but himself when they are losing a march.
    Well that's the thing. Even if others are at fault. He is the one that keeps hyping people up with dates. Which is causing most of the problems. I doubt they are all that happy about it either. But he doesn't seem to want to listen to anyone on that front.
    IMHO if his Kickstarter had a legitimate development timeline and budget posted I doubt they would ever have funded.  Some will see this  and his continued underestimating as a good thing because they feel the ends justify the means.  I just feel that the guy should say what he means and do what he says (roughly when he says).  

    Until there is some form of real accountability (as in people can get their money back when a company is literally years late) we will continue to see the pushing of unrealistic dates as it helps raise funding.  CoE is the poster child but they certainly are not alone.  It’s a mentality that has contaminated MMO Crowdfunding. As long as people excuse it (the ends justify the means) this will continue.


    Dont get me wrong,  this specific issue (D&SS delay) is pretty low on the totem pole but it’s just emblematic of the general mentality that results in a game years behind schedule and millions over budget.  Zero accountability.   Just blame it on “other smart people”, extend the current item sale, and dangle a new shiny.

    GdemamiTorrskOG_Zorvan

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,378
    For the record the fiasco continues.  The transfers, trade-ins and claiming are still disabled.  Nothing official but the hope is to have it fixed tomorrow.
    Gdemamicraftseeker

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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 254
    For the record the fiasco continues.  The transfers, trade-ins and claiming are still disabled.  Nothing official but the hope is to have it fixed tomorrow.
    Realistic they have to be fixed tomorrow. Unless they delay the announcement all over again. It will be even more stupid on their part to set a date, when stuff still needs to be done. 

    I am surprised you have not bought up the thread of people asking SBS to public test DSS. Gotta have the highest amount of upvotes seen in any thread. 
  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 502
    Torrsk said:
    For the record the fiasco continues.  The transfers, trade-ins and claiming are still disabled.  Nothing official but the hope is to have it fixed tomorrow.
    Realistic they have to be fixed tomorrow. Unless they delay the announcement all over again. It will be even more stupid on their part to set a date, when stuff still needs to be done. 

    I am surprised you have not bought up the thread of people asking SBS to public test DSS. Gotta have the highest amount of upvotes seen in any thread. 
    Got a link?

    I avoid the official forums most of the time these days
  • jonp200jonp200 Member UncommonPosts: 455
    Some day in the future "Sorry to all backers, but we are terminating the development of CoE. It was not my fault, some other people from the team screwed up".
    Yes, this.  This game is never going to be released.

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