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Gorgon plays follow the leader and adds micro transaction cash shop with stuff not in game yet

Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,064
edited March 22 in Project Gorgon
https://shop.projectgorgon.com/

Now I have always been a fan of P:G (even if I think they went overboard with playable animal stuff)... but fair is fair.  They just launched a cash shop based around a riding skill and VIP membership. Neither is in game yet.  Here is an example:

Project: Gorgon Package - Horseback Explorer II $50

·         Receive a free horse mount with basic Riding skill.

·         Plus special Saddlebags for extra storage capacity.

·         9 months VIP membership.

Notice: Some features, including Riding, are not yet implemented at this time. Your account will receive these benefits when the features become available. In addition, your VIP membership will not start until VIP benefits are available. Stay tuned to ProjectGorgon.com for specific announcements.


Or:

Project: Gorgon Package - Thoroughbred Breeder

·         Receive a free horse mount with basic Riding skill.

·         Plus special Saddlebags for extra storage capacity.

·         Receive a second free horse for breeding, along with basic Animal Husbandry skill.

·         Plus a pair of breeding tigers of high genetic quality.

·         12 months VIP membership.

Notice: Some features, including Riding and Animal Husbandry, are not yet implemented at this time. Your account will receive these benefits when the features become available. In addition, your VIP membership will not start until VIP benefits are available. Stay tuned to ProjectGorgon.com for specific announcements.


Or:

Project: Gorgon Package - Horse Lord $500

·         Includes the exclusive benefits from the Thoroughbred Breeder package.

·         Custom in-game title with the ability to bestow this title on anyone you see fit. (Note: Title must be game appropriate.)

·         The ability to spontaneously create special snack cakes (20 per week).

·         Staff of Leadership: this unique item helps you command the respect of those around you.

·         Player House! One basic, instanced, in-game house.

·         5 YEARS VIP membership.


Notice:  Some features, including Riding and Animal Husbandry, are not yet implemented at this time. Your account will receive these benefits when the features become available. In addition, your VIP membership will not start until VIP benefits are available.  Stay tuned to ProjectGorgon.com for specific announcements.


/sigh


One thing I will say is that at least P:G is a playable game that people can get in and decide for themselves.  


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  • paulythebpaulytheb Member UncommonPosts: 363
    Coming soon !

    Mystery Fun Box ! From Funstuff !

    Mystery Fun Box !, the excitement will build and grow !

    Mystery Fun Box !, the anticipation will drive you crazy !

    Mystery Fun Box ! From Funstuff !

    Here's how it works!

    You pay a mere 75$ now for your Mystery Fun Box !

    Then over a mere 5-7* years of care and excitement your Mystery Fun Box will grow and change!

    Finally you will receive a FREE random game !


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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,462
    I detest cash shops,perhaps the main reason i play the games i do..FFXI had no cash shop.,Atlas has no cash shop.
    The game i played for about 6 months,it grew on me and i would say i had a decently fun time playing.However soon he started making changes they felt flat out wrong,i lost interest.
    At that point i felt like he should have left the structure alone and focus on the graphics and content in the map that was already there.Even the optimisation was awful,low end graphics in an instance dropping down to 5/6/7/8 frames per second.

    I feel about Gorgon similar to how i feel about Atlas right now,games with mega ton of potential but the vision,the guy running the ship is screwing it up.

    So this is just one of the many reasons cash shops suck>>ALL the effort goes into the shop and not on polishing fixing the game bugs.Old content gets forgot and all the focus moves in a direction to sell items.

    Does he need to live...survive,yep for certain but it's not my problem,if you couldn't afford to do your game justice,then shouldn't even start it.IDk Eric's mindset maybe he had hoped an offer from an investor would have come along and he could go grandeur style,as is,way more than 1-3 people can handle.
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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,408
    I played this game years ago and remember no cash shop was almost a commandment, but I always said it was a matter of time.   :)

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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,838
    I mean, the game is pretty lame anyway.  It tries very hard to be EQ-like without any of the best parts of EQ.  That plus the unacceptably bad optimization of a game that looks like someone made the models for in a weekend.

    Honestly though, I don't know why devs who KNOW they don't have the resources keep trying to do 3-D that looks like dog shit.  I'd rather play a game that runs smoothly and looks good with 2/2.5D than half-assed attempts at 3D
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,839
    As long as EA doesn't buy it they can sell whatever they want.  Last I played the game was fun and all that stuff I can do without.

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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,826
    I mean, the game is pretty lame anyway.  It tries very hard to be EQ-like without any of the best parts of EQ.  That plus the unacceptably bad optimization of a game that looks like someone made the models for in a weekend.

    Honestly though, I don't know why devs who KNOW they don't have the resources keep trying to do 3-D that looks like dog shit.  I'd rather play a game that runs smoothly and looks good with 2/2.5D than half-assed attempts at 3D




    It tries to be an Asheron's Call-like not an EQ but true enough regardless. 
    Also.......Unity. Again with the Unity mmorpgs. smh 
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  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Member EpicPosts: 1,858
    I hear that familiar swooshing sound...the sound of a game soon to go down the drain.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,545
    It was almost fun while it lasted.
    drivendawnHatefullScot

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,663
    Here's a lesser known factoid, they've always had those perks and sold them in some form. They began as crowdfunding package perks and worked their way into the Gorgon Shop which has been up since way before Steam EA. It launched shortly after the IndieGoGo campaign (I think that's the platform they used), the last crowd funding project they did. Most of those perks were supposed to be tied with a subscription on launch but they've mentioned packages for a while too.

    The packages were offered on their web store to generate more money and because both KS and IndieGoGo had slightly different deals. The addition of these DLCs, packs, microtransactions, access fees, subscriptions, backer perks, and all manner of things like this were discussed on the forums at the time with the community as it was. In the end this is sort of where we ended up. No one idea could achieve massive consensus either for or against.

    I didn't think they should have additional microtransaction/dlc digital items, but I also didn't want key mechanics (like ESO crafting storage) to be locked behind a sub. That was even worse, or much worse mandatory sub.

    That was quite a while ago tbh and some of the details are fuzzy now so I may have forgotten a point or two. It was then I began to realize that reasonable monetization is impossible with a successful MMORPG. They're milk machines by nature and design and I either had to live with it or move on. I'm not suggesting those are your only alternatives, but they were, are, mine. This is one of the several reasons why crowd funding MMOs and games no longer works for me.
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  • drivendawndrivendawn Member RarePosts: 2,124
    edited March 22
     People in the forums asked for ways to support and get things for their support and none of the stuff offered is pay to win or can't be earned in the game. There was a discussion about it in fact that is pages long. It's basically the same packages as when their Kickstarter was up and people complained back then too. The game will continue to do fine as it always has?
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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member RarePosts: 1,114
    Another (seemingly) little known factoid. It costs an exuberant amount of money to create a game. It's costs more to create an online game and more to create an MMO.

    For those of you who think an indie team can produce a game without some kind of backing are absolutely lost. Mental.

    Indie developers are looking for ways to fund their game development and those include crowd funding, donations, finding backers and cash shops.

    DO NOT confuse independent developers looking for ways to continue development and AAA studios trying to suck money from their players. While the methods of acquiring the money could be the same, the reasoning behind it are profoundly different.
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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member RarePosts: 2,777
     People in the forums asked for ways to support and get things for their support and none of the stuff offered is pay to win or can't be earned in the game. There was a discussion about it in fact that are pages long.
    sos upport now is ripping people off? good to know
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,064


    With attribution to the readers at Massively.
    They named the file:  Pay_to_whinny.gif

    I found it humorous.
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  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,185
    edited March 26
    paulytheb said:
    Coming soon !

    Mystery Fun Box ! From Funstuff !

    Mystery Fun Box !, the excitement will build and grow !

    Mystery Fun Box !, the anticipation will drive you crazy !

    Mystery Fun Box ! From Funstuff !

    Here's how it works!

    You pay a mere 75$ now for your Mystery Fun Box !

    Then over a mere 5-7* years of care and excitement your Mystery Fun Box will grow and change!

    Finally you will receive a FREE random game !


    Mystery Fun Box !

    From Funstuff !


    * Mystery Fun Box does not actually grow and change. 5-7 years is an estimate and may be extended. Game may or may not be FREE or random. No returns.

    You do realize you are not even in the realm of realistic? You have no clue what you are even on about, comparing apples and dogs.

     People in the forums asked for ways to support and get things for their support and none of the stuff offered is pay to win or can't be earned in the game. There was a discussion about it in fact that are pages long.
    sos upport now is ripping people off? good to know
    [mod edit]
    100% agree. 
    Post edited by Vaross on

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,776
    edited March 22
    A little calm please, name calling is for Twitter we have higher standards here.

    Every MMO goes this way, no matter how they start, no matter what developers say. There are only two things you can me sure of in MMO life, respawns and cash shops. It is just how long the MMO will take to get a cash shop and then how long before dodgy and P2W items end up in it.

    Crowd funded MMOs have issues which may mean the problems start before the game is launched, but that said how many mainstream MMOs launch with a P2W cash shop? You can't win this one only ride it out, by which I mean play until the cash shop issues become too much for you. What I am seeing above would not make me move on but it would be an indicator of what is to come and how long it is going to take to arrive in the cash shop.

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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,838
    I mean, the game is pretty lame anyway.  It tries very hard to be EQ-like without any of the best parts of EQ.  That plus the unacceptably bad optimization of a game that looks like someone made the models for in a weekend.

    Honestly though, I don't know why devs who KNOW they don't have the resources keep trying to do 3-D that looks like dog shit.  I'd rather play a game that runs smoothly and looks good with 2/2.5D than half-assed attempts at 3D




    It tries to be an Asheron's Call-like not an EQ but true enough regardless. 
    Also.......Unity. Again with the Unity mmorpgs. smh 
    Right, much better comparison thanks.
  • ArteriusArterius Member EpicPosts: 1,893
    This makes me sad
  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member RarePosts: 1,114
    Scot said:
    A little calm please, name calling is for Twitter we have higher standards here.

    Every MMO goes this way, no matter how they start, no matter what developers say. There are only two things you can me sure of in MMO life, respawns and cash shops. It is just how long the MMO will take to get a cash shop and then how long before dodgy and P2W items end up in it.

    Crowd funded MMOs have issues which may mean the problems start before the game is launched, but that said how many mainstream MMOs launch with a P2W cash shop? You can't win this one only ride it out, by which I mean play until the cash shop issues become too much for you. What I am seeing above would not make me move on but it would be an indicator of what is to come and how long it is going to take to arrive in the cash shop.
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,201
    I mean, the game is pretty lame anyway.  It tries very hard to be EQ-like without any of the best parts of EQ.  That plus the unacceptably bad optimization of a game that looks like someone made the models for in a weekend.

    Honestly though, I don't know why devs who KNOW they don't have the resources keep trying to do 3-D that looks like dog shit.  I'd rather play a game that runs smoothly and looks good with 2/2.5D than half-assed attempts at 3D

    It has nothing to do with EQ1.

    It's a lot closer to Asherons Call in the way it plays.


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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,776
    Scot said:
    A little calm please, name calling is for Twitter we have higher standards here.

    Every MMO goes this way, no matter how they start, no matter what developers say. There are only two things you can me sure of in MMO life, respawns and cash shops. It is just how long the MMO will take to get a cash shop and then how long before dodgy and P2W items end up in it.

    Crowd funded MMOs have issues which may mean the problems start before the game is launched, but that said how many mainstream MMOs launch with a P2W cash shop? You can't win this one only ride it out, by which I mean play until the cash shop issues become too much for you. What I am seeing above would not make me move on but it would be an indicator of what is to come and how long it is going to take to arrive in the cash shop.
    Name? Description. 
    Totally lost me there.

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