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  • craftseekercraftseeker Member RarePosts: 1,740
    Actually no. Please go back to just silently LOLing all posts.
    You are wrong about @Gdemami, he is not "Captain LOL", because he doesn't laugh out loud, he giggles maniacally every time someone makes a post that is a reaction to his trolling.
    tweedledumb99
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 13,810
    Actually no. Please go back to just silently LOLing all posts.
    In Chronicles of Elyria no one can hear you laugh! :# 
    KyleranSlapshot1188

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  • StaalBurgherStaalBurgher Member UncommonPosts: 265
    Dakeru said:
    StaalBurgher said:
    KS indie projects of this nature are 90% likely to fail. There is no great feat in predicting it. 

    Isn't that even more a reason to be critical?
    I would personally prefer it if people invested in projects that aren't about giving you impossible promises but something realistic that may actually see a release.

    No one benefits from a game that consists of a list of features that only exist on paper.
    Not the critics, not the fans.
    I agree but the problem is there is no other game developer offering
    (1) permadeath/ageing
    (2) offline character persistence
    (3) developer provided social/legal framework to enforce player made rules

    It is also not simply a matter of being constructively critical, which would be entirely acceptable. Unfortunately the vast majority on this forum is about gloating. Naturally someone like Slap would reply "What about x, y, z? Do you think that is acceptable?" No, I don't think that is acceptable but neither did it require 3-0-0+ threads of quite deliberate baiting to state x, y, z.
    craftseeker
  • StaalBurgherStaalBurgher Member UncommonPosts: 265
    Torrsk said:
    *lol* That is certainly true. I facepalm as much as the next guy regarding that. I just don't find any pleasure in gloating over him struggling. Which is exactly what Slap, Frenchie and a few others here do.

    The other thing is that they want to pretend that they have some particular ability or insight to spot projects that will struggle. KS indie projects of this nature are 90% likely to fail. 


    I really doubt Caspian reads these boards anymore. But knowing KS fail rate is so high and really making games is a tricky thing in general. It's pretty common place for triple A games to bomb these days. I really wish SBS would change their ways. They have been doing the same thing for years now. They hype the hell out of something on discord, like it's just around the corner, but it's really not. I just don't get why they do this. 

    All they are doing in the long run, is making people lose faith in them. Which isn't good for anyone. So while the people on here, you could argue aren't doing much. Well some people have tried to say something about it on their official forums to get shut down pretty heavily.

    All I wanna know is why Caspian does all these stupid things. He clearly isn't learning at all. I was expected to hear something about domain selection. Since it was hyped like they could drop it in december, but pushed it back cause of the holidays. Which did make sense. Now it's the end of Feb and there has been nothing. We have yet to see any state of elyria post. For a 6 monthly update post, it disappointing to see they can't even be bothered to update the greater community. Which is doing nothing but filling me with more doubts. Being silent isn't always the best way. Yet if it's some store event, well they do make sure those always happen on time. 

    Ultimately, I think it comes down to can he deliver on offline character persistence (or OPCs as they call it). That is the core technical challenge that SpatialOS was supposed to solve. Most other design features are simply a matter of "can it be fun?". Or at least I can't think of anything right now that is as technically important. If they made a big miscalculation on OPCs then the project is dead in the water.
    Kylerancraftseeker
  • WargfootWargfoot Member UncommonPosts: 257
    To me this thread is the equivalent of a large group-funded project is deep space.
    It is a monumental testimony to what we can accomplish when we work together.
  • StaalBurgherStaalBurgher Member UncommonPosts: 265
    MadFrenchie said: (EDIT- I should say, this is when you aren't merely insulting others merely for the sake of being a useless Edge Lord).
    The irony is just too much. You are the most condescending poster on here. You get personal at the drop of a hat.
    Gdemami
  • WargfootWargfoot Member UncommonPosts: 257
    I don't know what the term "Edge Lord" means but it cracks me up.

    I refuse to Google it because the last time I Googled a phrase I didn't know it brought up a series of unfortunate pictures that I'm still trying to forget.
    Slapshot1188laseritScotKyleranMendelMadFrenchie
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,382
    Dakeru said:
    StaalBurgher said:
    KS indie projects of this nature are 90% likely to fail. There is no great feat in predicting it. 

    Isn't that even more a reason to be critical?
    I would personally prefer it if people invested in projects that aren't about giving you impossible promises but something realistic that may actually see a release.

    No one benefits from a game that consists of a list of features that only exist on paper.
    Not the critics, not the fans.
    I agree but the problem is there is no other game developer offering
    (1) permadeath/ageing
    (2) offline character persistence
    (3) developer provided social/legal framework to enforce player made rules

    It is also not simply a matter of being constructively critical, which would be entirely acceptable. Unfortunately the vast majority on this forum is about gloating. Naturally someone like Slap would reply "What about x, y, z? Do you think that is acceptable?" No, I don't think that is acceptable but neither did it require 3-0-0+ threads of quite deliberate baiting to state x, y, z.
    If someone posts about a game and your response is about the poster you have already lost the argument.
    If someone posts something that is not true, the easiest way to win that argument is to show a link proving what they say is untrue.
    It's funny how personal some of you get.  Tell you what... when I raise $5 million dollars from the public you can talk about Slapshot all you want!  Until then. lets focus on the game.

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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 10,273
    This thread is still open? 

    Why?

    Lokero
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 13,810
    bcbully said:
    This thread is still open? 

    Why?

    Been going so long I have thought a couple of times there must be a New, New tantrum, but alas no. :)

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  • StaalBurgherStaalBurgher Member UncommonPosts: 265
    edited February 2019
    If someone posts about a game and your response is about the poster you have already lost the argument.
    If someone posts something that is not true, the easiest way to win that argument is to show a link proving what they say is untrue.
    It's funny how personal some of you get.  Tell you what... when I raise $5 million dollars from the public you can talk about Slapshot all you want!  Until then. lets focus on the game.

    You claim to be a neutral who is simply raising constructive criticism but as is clear from 3-0-0+ threads of gloating and celebrating their everything struggle your claim of innocent commentary is untrue. You get personal with Caspian. You can't conduct a campaign against an individual and then complain when someone calls you up on it.

    Look, I don't have anything against you. You raise valid points but you also go way over the top. I just think you should have some humanity and cut the guy some slack. Yeah, his project is in a tough spot and might fail but dude, at least he is trying to bring something new to the table. Stop trying to make it harder for them. Even if it is a longshot. Yes he was rude to you, you've made your point.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,382
    edited February 2019
    If someone posts about a game and your response is about the poster you have already lost the argument.
    If someone posts something that is not true, the easiest way to win that argument is to show a link proving what they say is untrue.
    It's funny how personal some of you get.  Tell you what... when I raise $5 million dollars from the public you can talk about Slapshot all you want!  Until then. lets focus on the game.

    You claim to be a neutral who is simply raising constructive criticism but as is clear from 3-0-0+ threads of gloating and celebrating their everything struggle your claim of innocent commentary is untrue. You get personal with Caspian. You can't conduct a campaign against an individual and then complain when someone calls you up on it.

    Look, I don't have anything against you. You raise valid points but you also go way over the top. I just think you should have some humanity and cut the guy some slack. Yeah, his project is in a tough spot and might fail but dude, at least he is trying to bring something new to the table. Stop trying to make it harder for them. Even if it is a longshot. Yes he was rude to you, you've made your point.
    You are wrong on most points.  It’s not any more personal with CoE than it was with Greedmonger, MortalOnline, PathfinderOnline... I expect people to do what they say.  Again, if what I say is unfactual call me on it. This thread was created because Caspien threw a temper tantrum after Tim’s rather mild article called him on his lack of production an transparancy. He has claimed that as a result he is pulling all his “exclusives” from this site.  If you don’t think that’s worthy of discussion the problem is on your end and you will just have to deal with it.

    PS: In the last 4 months I have created a whopping total of 5 threads about CoE.  The next one will likely be about the long awaited and long delayed 0.5/State of Elyria Update.  Unless of course, something else newsworthy pops up, because who knows when that will come out.







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    Gdemamicraftseeker

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,612
    edited February 2019
    bcbully said:
    This thread is still open? 

    Why?

    This forum really could use an "ironic" voting button along with "snarky", "sarcastic", and of course, "not sure if serious."

    ;)
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 14,677
    Kyleran said:
    bcbully said:
    This thread is still open? 

    Why?

    This forum really could use an "ironic" voting button along with "snarky", "sarcastic", and of course, "not sure if serious."

    ;)
    He's the guy who posted "first" on another thread recently. He should have just stuck with his schtick and simply posted "bump" :)
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,382
    edited February 2019
    @StaalBurgher For the record, I actually went and looked.  Despite your ridiculously repeated assertion that I created 300+ CoE threads.  Reality is actually 46 (maybe 47).  That is a far cry from 300+ and begins prior to the Kickstarter in 2016 so roughly 3 years. 

    See I actually participate in the entire MMORPG.COM site.  I join other game threads. I comment on the news.  Unlike you, who has not posted about any other subject on this site since 2017...

    See, when someone makes an untruthful statement as you did, the proper way to respond is to call them out on it with actual facts.  

    So now I am done discussing Slapshot. If you want to further discuss me feel free to PM.


    GdemamiShaighcraftseeker

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

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    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

    My ignore list finally has one occupant after 12 years. I am the strongest supporter of free speech on here, but free speech does not mean forced listening. Have fun my friend. Hope you find a new stalking target.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,318
    edited February 2019
    It’s not any more personal with CoE than it was with Greedmonger, MortalOnline, PathfinderOnline...

    Oh, those too? Funny how the pattern repeats, yet one variable remains the same, right?

    Well, at least it is clear you are the problem, not Walsh...
    Slapshot1188[Deleted User]craftseekerFlyByKnight
  • StaalBurgherStaalBurgher Member UncommonPosts: 265
    edited February 2019
    @StaalBurgher For the record, I actually went and looked.  Despite your ridiculously repeated assertion that I created 300+ CoE threads.  Reality is actually 46 (maybe 47).  That is a far cry from 300+ and begins prior to the Kickstarter in 2016 so roughly 3 years. 

    See I actually participate in the entire MMORPG.COM site.  I join other game threads. I comment on the news.  Unlike you, who has not posted about any other subject on this site since 2017...

    See, when someone makes an untruthful statement as you did, the proper way to respond is to call them out on it with actual facts.  

    So now I am done discussing Slapshot. If you want to further discuss me feel free to PM.


    3-0-0+ is completely relevant because I include every poster on here that is obsessively negative about SBS. You are the largest contributor most like and that is why you get the comment. But that is what you want right? Internet notoriety? 

    I am glad you counted them. 46 threads dude... for a game you think is going to fail. 46 threads is 15% of the total. Jesus that is obsessive

    Why would I post on other games that I have no interest in?
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited February 2019
    MadFrenchie said: (EDIT- I should say, this is when you aren't merely insulting others merely for the sake of being a useless Edge Lord).
    The irony is just too much. You are the most condescending poster on here. You get personal at the drop of a hat.
    Wrong.  I can be abrasive, but that's not the same as personal.   If I say or imply something you've said is, say, stupid, then it's an assessment on the words you've posted (ooh, or, say, if I reply to a poster by calling their assessment of another poster "ignorant," perhaps!  That seems applicable here).  Your actions, not your person.  If someone struggles to handle such criticism of their quite public comments, they shouldn't be posting on the internet.

    You should actually spend more time on these forums if you're going to make a blanket assessment of any poster here.

    EDIT- I should say, I very much label our LOL troll's account/person him or herself as an edge lord that's useless to this community.  That's because he or she has consistently shown themselves as such to the point that not doing so is avoiding calling a spade a spade.
    Gdemami

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,382
    @StaalBurgher For the record, I actually went and looked.  Despite your ridiculously repeated assertion that I created 300+ CoE threads.  Reality is actually 46 (maybe 47).  That is a far cry from 300+ and begins prior to the Kickstarter in 2016 so roughly 3 years. 

    See I actually participate in the entire MMORPG.COM site.  I join other game threads. I comment on the news.  Unlike you, who has not posted about any other subject on this site since 2017...

    See, when someone makes an untruthful statement as you did, the proper way to respond is to call them out on it with actual facts.  

    So now I am done discussing Slapshot. If you want to further discuss me feel free to PM.


    3-0-0+ is completely relevant because I include every poster on here that is obsessively negative about SBS. You are the largest contributor most like and that is why you get the comment. But that is what you want right? Internet notoriety? 

    I am glad you counted them. 46 threads dude... for a game you think is going to fail. 46 threads is 15% of the total. Jesus that is obsessive

    Why would I post on other games that I have no interest in?
    So I am every poster on here now?  Is this my Corrie Booker Spartacus moment?

    Here is just one of your blatantly wrong quotes:
    ”I suppose that is your only recourse. 3-0-0+ threads on how much this game fails is pretty good evidence that you have a massive personal grudge.”

    Multiple times in this very thread you have been called out for misquoting and for stating untruths. As always, the best response is to simply counter with facts  ;) 

    If your only purpose for visiting MMORPG.com is to defend a single game at least we know where you are coming from and why you are here.

    So I ask you again: Was the fact that Caspien threw a temper tantrum about Tim’s mild article and stated he would pull all his exclusive info from the site worthy of a discussion thread?  If the answer is yes, then your inane, made up falsehoods have no relevance at all on this thread.
    Gdemami

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    @StaalBurgher For the record, I actually went and looked.  Despite your ridiculously repeated assertion that I created 300+ CoE threads.  Reality is actually 46 (maybe 47).  That is a far cry from 300+ and begins prior to the Kickstarter in 2016 so roughly 3 years. 

    See I actually participate in the entire MMORPG.COM site.  I join other game threads. I comment on the news.  Unlike you, who has not posted about any other subject on this site since 2017...

    See, when someone makes an untruthful statement as you did, the proper way to respond is to call them out on it with actual facts.  

    So now I am done discussing Slapshot. If you want to further discuss me feel free to PM.


    3-0-0+ is completely relevant because I include every poster on here that is obsessively negative about SBS. You are the largest contributor most like and that is why you get the comment. But that is what you want right? Internet notoriety? 

    I am glad you counted them. 46 threads dude... for a game you think is going to fail. 46 threads is 15% of the total. Jesus that is obsessive

    Why would I post on other games that I have no interest in?
    So I am every poster on here now?  Is this my Corrie Booker Spartacus moment?

    Here is just one of your blatantly wrong quotes:
    ”I suppose that is your only recourse. 3-0-0+ threads on how much this game fails is pretty good evidence that you have a massive personal grudge.”

    Multiple times in this very thread you have been called out for misquoting and for stating untruths. As always, the best response is to simply counter with facts  ;) 

    If your only purpose for visiting MMORPG.com is to defend a single game at least we know where you are coming from and why you are here.

    So I ask you again: Was the fact that Caspien threw a temper tantrum about Tim’s mild article and stated he would pull all his exclusive info from the site worthy of a discussion thread?  If the answer is yes, then your inane, made up falsehoods have no relevance at all on this thread.
    It's not that is isn't an event worth discussing; it's that discussing the event is a negative discussion surrounding something they just want, oh so badly, to be real and everything they imagined.  Anything negative is a threat to that fanciful idea actually happening.


    Remember: the ends justify any means to way too many of these supporters.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,382
    Gdemami said:
    It’s not any more personal with CoE than it was with Greedmonger, MortalOnline, PathfinderOnline...

    Oh, those too? Funny how the pattern repeats, yet one variable remains the same, right?

    Bad games with developers who over-promise and under-deliver with ridiculous timelines and budgets fail?

    Who woulda thunk it?

    Gdemami

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

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    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

    My ignore list finally has one occupant after 12 years. I am the strongest supporter of free speech on here, but free speech does not mean forced listening. Have fun my friend. Hope you find a new stalking target.

  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 4,045
    @StaalBurgher For the record, I actually went and looked.  Despite your ridiculously repeated assertion that I created 300+ CoE threads.  Reality is actually 46 (maybe 47).  That is a far cry from 300+ and begins prior to the Kickstarter in 2016 so roughly 3 years. 

    See I actually participate in the entire MMORPG.COM site.  I join other game threads. I comment on the news.  Unlike you, who has not posted about any other subject on this site since 2017...

    See, when someone makes an untruthful statement as you did, the proper way to respond is to call them out on it with actual facts.  

    So now I am done discussing Slapshot. If you want to further discuss me feel free to PM.


    3-0-0+ is completely relevant because I include every poster on here that is obsessively negative about SBS. You are the largest contributor most like and that is why you get the comment. But that is what you want right? Internet notoriety? 

    I am glad you counted them. 46 threads dude... for a game you think is going to fail. 46 threads is 15% of the total. Jesus that is obsessive

    Why would I post on other games that I have no interest in?
    So I am every poster on here now?  Is this my Corrie Booker Spartacus moment?

    Here is just one of your blatantly wrong quotes:
    ”I suppose that is your only recourse. 3-0-0+ threads on how much this game fails is pretty good evidence that you have a massive personal grudge.”

    Multiple times in this very thread you have been called out for misquoting and for stating untruths. As always, the best response is to simply counter with facts  ;) 

    If your only purpose for visiting MMORPG.com is to defend a single game at least we know where you are coming from and why you are here.

    So I ask you again: Was the fact that Caspien threw a temper tantrum about Tim’s mild article and stated he would pull all his exclusive info from the site worthy of a discussion thread?  If the answer is yes, then your inane, made up falsehoods have no relevance at all on this thread.
    It's not that is isn't an event worth discussing; it's that discussing the event is a negative discussion surrounding something they just want, oh so badly, to be real and everything they imagined.  Anything negative is a threat to that fanciful idea actually happening.


    Remember: the ends justify any means to way too many of these supporters.
    The truth hurts.



    Slapshot1188Gdemami

    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,318
    Slapshot1188 said:
    Bad games with developers who over-promise and under-deliver with ridiculous timelines and budgets fail?

    Who woulda thunk it?

    Regardless how you attempt to justify 300+ threads of your trolling and ignorance, it will still be trolling and ignorance...
    Slapshot1188Kyleran[Deleted User]tweedledumb99ShaighTorrskFlyByKnight
  • RateroRatero Member UncommonPosts: 436
    Seriously, can we just let this thread just die?
    Kyleran

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,834
    edited February 2019
    Ratero said:
    Seriously, can we just let this thread just die?
    Well, the game itself pretty much has.
    Nilden
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