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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 218
    *lol* That is certainly true. I facepalm as much as the next guy regarding that. I just don't find any pleasure in gloating over him struggling. Which is exactly what Slap, Frenchie and a few others here do.

    The other thing is that they want to pretend that they have some particular ability or insight to spot projects that will struggle. KS indie projects of this nature are 90% likely to fail. 


    I really doubt Caspian reads these boards anymore. But knowing KS fail rate is so high and really making games is a tricky thing in general. It's pretty common place for triple A games to bomb these days. I really wish SBS would change their ways. They have been doing the same thing for years now. They hype the hell out of something on discord, like it's just around the corner, but it's really not. I just don't get why they do this. 

    All they are doing in the long run, is making people lose faith in them. Which isn't good for anyone. So while the people on here, you could argue aren't doing much. Well some people have tried to say something about it on their official forums to get shut down pretty heavily.

    All I wanna know is why Caspian does all these stupid things. He clearly isn't learning at all. I was expected to hear something about domain selection. Since it was hyped like they could drop it in december, but pushed it back cause of the holidays. Which did make sense. Now it's the end of Feb and there has been nothing. We have yet to see any state of elyria post. For a 6 monthly update post, it disappointing to see they can't even be bothered to update the greater community. Which is doing nothing but filling me with more doubts. Being silent isn't always the best way. Yet if it's some store event, well they do make sure those always happen on time. 

    GdemamiStaalBurgher
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 11,687
    edited February 18
    Torrsk said:
    If people were so bothered by Slap in general. Just not replying to him would solve the problem.
    Actually, that isn't a problem - I never said they are bothered by his posting, on the contrary.

    The best reply to your post is an example of one of your very own:
    Torrsk said:
    What the hell is that? Like I get what it is, I just don't get anything else.. it seems like a bunch of kids making a game.

    "Hey you know what would be real cool, lets build goat simulator"
    "What about Pre-Elyria or DSS"
    "Nah who cares, our fans will eat this randomness up anyway"
    "Yeah good idea, then secretly we will release this as a stand alone game"
    "Then run off with the millions we took from them"

    Of course for all I knew, this only took a very short amount of time to make.
    All that to reaction of standard ragdoll test which is absolutely common in any game development involving 3D models. So what we have:

    1) Ignorance - check
    2) Self-entitlement - check
    3) Slander - check
    4) Armchair developer comment - check

    Don't feel bad, most of the posts here are like that, it is not just you - thus many my lol giveaways.

    People aren't dev savvy, they lack knowledge of some field....no issue with that, we all have our strenghts and weaknesses but how the hell can you justify such post?! Some people even dare to call it "valid points"...mind boggling...

    But I think we had this conversation already...
    parrotpholkMadFrenchieAnOldFartFlyByKnight
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited February 18
    Gdemami said:
    Dakeru said:
    CoE is a huge problem.
    5.5 mil flushed down the toilet means people like us who would actually like a new and fresh concept will never see it cause all the money is just tossed towards incompetent wannabe developers who have no idea how to make an actual game.

    Just keep promising and the gullible will keep on giving you money.
    No one has a reason to make a game anymore cause this is just more profitable.
    Which one of the category do you belong to?

    1) Gulled by SBS to pledged and now is being gulled by Slapshot to believe his "valid points".

    2) SJW having hard time with people spending money as they see fit



    You are just proving a point I was making...

    Your usage of the very tired "SJW" just kinda proved how ignorant your entire perspective is.  You're one of THOSE folks.  Enough said, and how lacking in any true intelligence or clarity.
    GdemamiKyleranparrotpholk

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,062
    Guys I will ask nicely again.  Please stay on target.

    I you want to make a Slapshot thread please do so.  This isn’t that thread.
    Gdemamitweedledumb99

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 11,687
    edited February 18
    Guys I will ask nicely again.  Please stay on target.

    I you want to make a Slapshot thread please do so.  This isn’t that thread.
    There are 300+ threads about you, this one included...
    parrotpholkFlyByKnight
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,062
    Actually no. Please go back to just silently LOLing all posts.
    tweedledumb99craftseeker

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,962
    Gdemami said:
    Dakeru said:
    You are describing yourself perfectly.
    Unlikely, I am not the one with 300+ troll CoE threads under my belt...
    Better than 300+ troll LOLs 
    parrotpholktweedledumb99TorrskFlyByKnight

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,962
    Guys I will ask nicely again.  Please stay on target.

    I you want to make a Slapshot thread please do so.  This isn’t that thread.
    Well Slap, the original target was about JWs strong negative response to a couple of articles here and on MassivelyOP which dared to be a bit "probing" in their approach. 

    It is over and done with for now, perhaps we need a thread to discuss something else,  I'll take care of it and save you from being accused of starting thread number 301.
    ScotTorval

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing POE at the moment.

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited February 18
    Gdemami said:
    Torrsk said:
    If people were so bothered by Slap in general. Just not replying to him would solve the problem.
    Actually, that isn't a problem - I never said they are bothered by his posting, on the contrary.

    The best reply to your post is an example of one of your very own:
    Torrsk said:
    What the hell is that? Like I get what it is, I just don't get anything else.. it seems like a bunch of kids making a game.

    "Hey you know what would be real cool, lets build goat simulator"
    "What about Pre-Elyria or DSS"
    "Nah who cares, our fans will eat this randomness up anyway"
    "Yeah good idea, then secretly we will release this as a stand alone game"
    "Then run off with the millions we took from them"

    Of course for all I knew, this only took a very short amount of time to make.
    All that to reaction of standard ragdoll test which is absolutely common in any game development involving 3D models. So what we have:

    1) Ignorance - check
    2) Self-entitlement - check
    3) Slander - check
    4) Armchair developer comment - check

    Don't feel bad, most of the posts here are like that, it is not just you - thus many my lol giveaways.

    People aren't dev savvy, they lack knowledge of some field....no issue with that, we all have our strenghts and weaknesses but how the hell can you justify such post?! Some people even dare to call it "valid points"...mind boggling...

    But I think we had this conversation already...
    You completely missed the point of that reaction to a ragdoll test, but you intentionally do so because you have an inability to competently debate with anyone without intentionally misrepresenting the argument to try and make it seem like the other person is being absurd (EDIT- I should say, this is when you aren't merely insulting others merely for the sake of being a useless Edge Lord).  It has the end result of you just looking like a troll, because almost nobody falls for your shit.


    Go back to LOLing posts, where you at least had plausible deniability for yourself.  The more you post, the clearer it becomes to everyone here that the discussion was better off when you just LOL-bombed.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,062
    Kyleran said:
    Guys I will ask nicely again.  Please stay on target.

    I you want to make a Slapshot thread please do so.  This isn’t that thread.
    Well Slap, the original target was about JWs strong negative response to a couple of articles here and on MassivelyOP which dared to be a bit "probing" in their approach. 

    It is over and done with for now, perhaps we need a thread to discuss something else,  I'll take care of it and save you from being accused of starting thread number 301.
    Thanks!

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 218
    edited February 18
    Gdemami said:
    All that to reaction of standard ragdoll test which is absolutely common in any game development involving 3D models. So what we have: 




    Maybe you should wonder why I reacted like that. But seems easier for you just to throw around insults. But whatever floats your boat. 
    GdemamiAnOldFart
  • jonp200jonp200 Member UncommonPosts: 447
    Lost confidence in this guy shortly after the KickStarter.  I maintain the game if it ever comes out will be a massive flop; unfinished, not optimized and lackluster.  People are calling him on his BS and the heat in the kitchen is a little much eh?

    Seaspite
    Playing ESO on my X-Box


  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 11,687
    Torrsk said:
    But seems easier for you just to throw around insults.
    Says someone who throws insults at developer(s) left and right...

    See, no wondering, I was spot on.
  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 218
    Gdemami said:
    Torrsk said:
    But seems easier for you just to throw around insults.
    Says someone who throws insults at developer(s) left and right...

    See, no wondering, I was spot on.

    I have always spoken bluntly. If you can't handle that, maybe wear your big boy pants. I have talked more bluntly directly to Caspian before. He didn't seem to mind it. I don't see the point of sugar coating when I'm clearly frustrated by the delays, then the lack of communication when they don't even explain why everything gets delayed.

    PS: Every time you LOL at me. I feel this warm sense of love. It's like the people that downvote me on the CoE forums. Am I annoying you that much? For someone that seems to hate people here attacking SBS, you keep coming back bumping all the threads. So please keep doing you, just shows how much you love us all.
    Slapshot1188GdemamiAnOldFartArteriustweedledumb99
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 11,687
    edited February 18
    Torrsk said:
    I have always spoken bluntly.
    ...favor returned. Now, who can't handle it...
    AnOldFartcraftseekertweedledumb99
  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 475
    Torrsk said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torrsk said:
    But seems easier for you just to throw around insults.
    Says someone who throws insults at developer(s) left and right...

    See, no wondering, I was spot on.

    I have always spoken bluntly. If you can't handle that, maybe wear your big boy pants. I have talked more bluntly directly to Caspian before. He didn't seem to mind it. I don't see the point of sugar coating when I'm clearly frustrated by the delays, then the lack of communication when they don't even explain why everything gets delayed.

    PS: Every time you LOL at me. I feel this warm sense of love. It's like the people that downvote me on the CoE forums. Am I annoying you that much? For someone that seems to hate people here attacking SBS, you keep coming back bumping all the threads. So please keep doing you, just shows how much you love us all.
    He obviously mistakes it for Lots of Love in this context. 
    He is just showering everyone with his love and huga
    tweedledumb99
  • craftseekercraftseeker Member RarePosts: 1,740
    Actually no. Please go back to just silently LOLing all posts.
    You are wrong about @Gdemami, he is not "Captain LOL", because he doesn't laugh out loud, he giggles maniacally every time someone makes a post that is a reaction to his trolling.
    tweedledumb99
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,757
    Actually no. Please go back to just silently LOLing all posts.
    In Chronicles of Elyria no one can hear you laugh! :# 
    KyleranSlapshot1188

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  • StaalBurgherStaalBurgher Member UncommonPosts: 263
    Dakeru said:
    StaalBurgher said:
    KS indie projects of this nature are 90% likely to fail. There is no great feat in predicting it. 

    Isn't that even more a reason to be critical?
    I would personally prefer it if people invested in projects that aren't about giving you impossible promises but something realistic that may actually see a release.

    No one benefits from a game that consists of a list of features that only exist on paper.
    Not the critics, not the fans.
    I agree but the problem is there is no other game developer offering
    (1) permadeath/ageing
    (2) offline character persistence
    (3) developer provided social/legal framework to enforce player made rules

    It is also not simply a matter of being constructively critical, which would be entirely acceptable. Unfortunately the vast majority on this forum is about gloating. Naturally someone like Slap would reply "What about x, y, z? Do you think that is acceptable?" No, I don't think that is acceptable but neither did it require 3-0-0+ threads of quite deliberate baiting to state x, y, z.
    craftseeker
  • StaalBurgherStaalBurgher Member UncommonPosts: 263
    Torrsk said:
    *lol* That is certainly true. I facepalm as much as the next guy regarding that. I just don't find any pleasure in gloating over him struggling. Which is exactly what Slap, Frenchie and a few others here do.

    The other thing is that they want to pretend that they have some particular ability or insight to spot projects that will struggle. KS indie projects of this nature are 90% likely to fail. 


    I really doubt Caspian reads these boards anymore. But knowing KS fail rate is so high and really making games is a tricky thing in general. It's pretty common place for triple A games to bomb these days. I really wish SBS would change their ways. They have been doing the same thing for years now. They hype the hell out of something on discord, like it's just around the corner, but it's really not. I just don't get why they do this. 

    All they are doing in the long run, is making people lose faith in them. Which isn't good for anyone. So while the people on here, you could argue aren't doing much. Well some people have tried to say something about it on their official forums to get shut down pretty heavily.

    All I wanna know is why Caspian does all these stupid things. He clearly isn't learning at all. I was expected to hear something about domain selection. Since it was hyped like they could drop it in december, but pushed it back cause of the holidays. Which did make sense. Now it's the end of Feb and there has been nothing. We have yet to see any state of elyria post. For a 6 monthly update post, it disappointing to see they can't even be bothered to update the greater community. Which is doing nothing but filling me with more doubts. Being silent isn't always the best way. Yet if it's some store event, well they do make sure those always happen on time. 

    Ultimately, I think it comes down to can he deliver on offline character persistence (or OPCs as they call it). That is the core technical challenge that SpatialOS was supposed to solve. Most other design features are simply a matter of "can it be fun?". Or at least I can't think of anything right now that is as technically important. If they made a big miscalculation on OPCs then the project is dead in the water.
    Kylerancraftseeker
  • WargfootWargfoot Member UncommonPosts: 248
    To me this thread is the equivalent of a large group-funded project is deep space.
    It is a monumental testimony to what we can accomplish when we work together.
  • StaalBurgherStaalBurgher Member UncommonPosts: 263
    MadFrenchie said: (EDIT- I should say, this is when you aren't merely insulting others merely for the sake of being a useless Edge Lord).
    The irony is just too much. You are the most condescending poster on here. You get personal at the drop of a hat.
    Gdemami
  • WargfootWargfoot Member UncommonPosts: 248
    I don't know what the term "Edge Lord" means but it cracks me up.

    I refuse to Google it because the last time I Googled a phrase I didn't know it brought up a series of unfortunate pictures that I'm still trying to forget.
    Slapshot1188laseritScotKyleranMendelMadFrenchie
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,062
    Dakeru said:
    StaalBurgher said:
    KS indie projects of this nature are 90% likely to fail. There is no great feat in predicting it. 

    Isn't that even more a reason to be critical?
    I would personally prefer it if people invested in projects that aren't about giving you impossible promises but something realistic that may actually see a release.

    No one benefits from a game that consists of a list of features that only exist on paper.
    Not the critics, not the fans.
    I agree but the problem is there is no other game developer offering
    (1) permadeath/ageing
    (2) offline character persistence
    (3) developer provided social/legal framework to enforce player made rules

    It is also not simply a matter of being constructively critical, which would be entirely acceptable. Unfortunately the vast majority on this forum is about gloating. Naturally someone like Slap would reply "What about x, y, z? Do you think that is acceptable?" No, I don't think that is acceptable but neither did it require 3-0-0+ threads of quite deliberate baiting to state x, y, z.
    If someone posts about a game and your response is about the poster you have already lost the argument.
    If someone posts something that is not true, the easiest way to win that argument is to show a link proving what they say is untrue.
    It's funny how personal some of you get.  Tell you what... when I raise $5 million dollars from the public you can talk about Slapshot all you want!  Until then. lets focus on the game.

    Gdemamicraftseeker

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

    My ignore list finally has one occupant after 12 years. I am the strongest supporter of free speech on here, but free speech does not mean forced listening. Have fun my friend. Hope you find a new stalking target.

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 9,776
    This thread is still open? 

    Why?

    Lokero
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