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Atlas - Not What Anyone Was Expecting

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,127
edited January 2019 in News & Features Discussion

imageAtlas - Not What Anyone Was Expecting

Is it fair that Grapeshot Games is charging folks for a game so early in its development cycle without warning of its crude state? On a broader note, is the whole Early Access system being abused?

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  • BlueThunderBearBlueThunderBear Member RarePosts: 228
    I was expecting an unplayable mess besieged by griefers.
    AeanderXarkoelveoneAlmostLancelotKyleranWargfootYVThaharBillMurphyceh430Quizzicaland 4 others.
  • MaurgrimMaurgrim Member RarePosts: 1,301
    Trailer was a lie, It showed a living breathing world, not hitting trees on emty islands.
    KooturIlaya[Deleted User]sschruppHatefull
  • KhegobierKhegobier Member UncommonPosts: 54
    "Is early access being abused?"

    Is water wet?
    AlmostLancelotKyleranDhamon99SamhaelsakerDr_Binks[Deleted User]Reaperman69infomatzScotand 5 others.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 7,278
    I expected it, because Studio Wildcard have already shown themselves to be incompetent, greedy, cynnical hackjobs with Ark's various controversies and optimization failures. Anyone who wasn't expecting exactly what we got hasn't been paying attention.
    BlueThunderBearAlmostLancelotKyleranThaharSpottyGekkoSamhaelCryomatrixMadFrenchie[Deleted User]infomatzand 2 others.
  • elveoneelveone Member RarePosts: 397
    Really? No one expected a big pile of an early access survival mess from the guys behind Ark?
    BlueThunderBearAlmostLancelotXarkoThaharSinsaiDhamon99SamhaelMadFrenchie[Deleted User]Cazrieland 4 others.
  • BlinkennBlinkenn Member UncommonPosts: 162
    It's the DayZ model, using early access to get your initial sales and then you don't need to finish making the game at all.
  • Asch126Asch126 Member RarePosts: 543

    Khegobier said:

    "Is early access being abused?"



    Is water wet?



    Is ice cold? Find out at 11.
  • Siris23Siris23 Member UncommonPosts: 388
    edited January 2019
    This is why I give all early access games on steam a hard pass no matter how good they look, alpha testing is rarely fun and they're asking you to pay for the privilege.
    KyleranCazrielHatefullPhry
  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,726
    Siris23 said:
    This is why I give all early access games on steam a hard pass no matter how good they look, alpha testing is rarely fun and they're asking you to pay for the privilege.
    Makes sense. I personally enjoy some Early Access games, but usually only ones that have a good enough base gameplay loop that you can still have plenty of fun while seeing all the changes happen over time. 
  • casdegerecasdegere Member UncommonPosts: 15
    edited January 2019
    Hmm, I've been playing this on our HBS server and I enjoy the game. We host our own server and though it has been a learning curve for our hoster at first, we've been able to modify the default settings and it is quite fun and playable on a 4x4. Harvesting, hunting, making structures, ships and exploring is very doable today. Cannons, pistols, bows, swords, fists and ship to ship combat also is nice. There have been quite a few updates recently and I find the game is fun to play. Taming is more complicated which is nice as well.
    sschrupp
  • Oije64Oije64 Member UncommonPosts: 10
    edited January 2019
    Is was playing ATLAS for many hours and I had fun. Was playing on a PVE Server. Though the first 2 days had been rough, the devs handled the problems quite well, by patching with a high frequency. The game, compared to its contents is rather cheap imho.
    Still don't get it why people do not understand an EARLY ACCESS concept, but whining and nagging seems to become a solid sport
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,000
    I've learned to be beware when you have marketing videos with little or heavily modified actual game play.
    Tuor7KyleranTacticalZombeh

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  • Tuor7Tuor7 Member RarePosts: 980
    'but is it really the consumer's responsibility to circumvent the traps of false advertising on Steam?'

    Yes. It is. Especially when Steam warns you about it. People need to take responsibility for the choices that they make.
    BlueThunderBearQuizzicalSandmanjwThaharsschrupp
  • Mackaveli44Mackaveli44 Member RarePosts: 699
    edited January 2019
    All I see in this article from Jordan is him crying that things didnt work out of the gate and that the SERVERS themselves were overloaded with hundreds of thousands of players hitting the servers at once and not working correctly on day 1 of EA launch and also animal settings needed to be toned down. ANY game would have problems with so many hitting the servers. If people were to play it just 3 days after day 1, it would have been a night and day difference once they got the servers under control, for the most part. They still lag today but it's in a muuuuuuch better place than it was day 1, or even week 1. It's called PATIENCE. On top of that, you buy an EA product knowing, hell they even tell you in the description of the game that its bound to have problems.

    Thing that people have to realize is that it was SERVER related issues the game was having, not the actual game itself. Yes, there's graphic issues and some other things but the SERVER issues was where they were getting destroyed and they fixed it QUICK especially while doing it over christmas holiday week.
  • meonthissitemeonthissite Member UncommonPosts: 917
    I've given all games 100% passes on early access and presales. I've basically stopped all purchases of any kind at launch as well as at early access. SWTOR LOTR STO GW2 Diablo III all of these launches taught me never to get a game at launch.
    Tuor7
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 41,219

    Oije64 said:

    Is was playing ATLAS for many hours and I had fun. Was playing on a PVE Server. Though the first 2 days had been rough, the devs handled the problems quite well, by patching with a high frequency. The game, compared to its contents is rather cheap imho.

    Still don't get it why people do not understand an EARLY ACCESS concept, but whining and nagging seems to become a solid sport



    I wasn't aware there were official PVE servers, or were you playing on a private server?

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 41,219

    casdegere said:

    Hmm, I've been playing this on our HBS server and I enjoy the game. We host our own server and though it has been a learning curve for our hoster at first, we've been able to modify the default settings and it is quite fun and playable on a 4x4. Harvesting, hunting, making structures, ships and exploring is very doable today. Cannons, pistols, bows, swords, fists and ship to ship combat also is nice. There have been quite a few updates recently and I find the game is fun to play. Taming is more complicated which is nice as well.



    Except this review is about playing Atlas the MMO, which you really weren't part of so your experiences aren't really comparable.
    BlueThunderBearMadFrenchie

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  • WargfootYVWargfootYV Member UncommonPosts: 261
    My last game purchase was an early access game.

    I bought early access on purpose with the expectation that I'd learn about the game as it developed instead of jumping into a perfectly formed world with 100s of new variables I'd need to absorb in order to be effective. I guess I'm saying that I'm of a mind to exploit one of the few benefits of early access so I'm willing to put up with the downside of it.

    So you have to think about what you want out of a game - you may decide early access has some benefits.
    Kyleranmgilbrtsninfomatz
  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,636
    LOL I went in expecting a pile of shit and that is what I stepped in on my way out the door.
    CanPanther
  • DreadmillDreadmill Member CommonPosts: 1
    I have almost 200 hrs in this and I absolutely have had exactly the experience that I was hoping for on NA PVE. I purchased 4 copies of the game on day 1 for my family and we have laughed more than any comedy show I have ever attended. We have been thrilled when we went from 100yr olds to our 20’s. We have cried when griefers have sank our ships with weight exploits. This game makes me feel the way I did when I got my first ship in Ultima 4 and sailed off to parts unknown. Maybe it’s because I have never had to play it alone or I just love pirates but this has been a great experience which I would do again in a heartbeat.
    RexKushmanExistentialistMaldrek
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    EA is big time being abused,not just by this game but the entire industry.Even the games that are not using the Early access tag are just as bad because they are released with very little content.
    So what's the difference,one says early the other looks like it is too early.

    IMO this game will keep you busy for a very long time and also imo ,never becomes too easy.

    It really says how sad sack the industry is because Atlas was released way too early but still has more to do and keeps me more busy and interested in playing than any other game i have played in the last 10 years.The only other game in last 10 that i wanted to play everyday for weeks was Dishonored and i did and finished it several times.

    My point is that this game is mildly fine just the way it is but needs a LOT of tweaks and optimizing.tweaks are not bugs of course but are part of the testing phase to make sure the game is setup to keep most people happy.

    I look at MANY other game releases and i see NO potential no matter how long they spend on the games.This game is a really nice start,if it gets better it is icing on the cake.I think people should give it a chance and not go in expecting easy mode ARPG style,this game has you play realistically and immersive.


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  • BarabBarab Member UncommonPosts: 10
    Been having a blast on the pvp servers, it feels like a mix of darkfall meets eve meats sea of thieves
    Existentialist
  • WargfootYVWargfootYV Member UncommonPosts: 261
    Barab said:
    Been having a blast on the pvp servers, it feels like a mix of darkfall meets eve meats sea of thieves
    Meats?
    Methinks you're taking the PvP thing too far.
    Kyleran
  • BlueThunderBearBlueThunderBear Member RarePosts: 228



    Barab said:

    Been having a blast on the pvp servers, it feels like a mix of darkfall meets eve meats sea of thieves

    Meats?
    Methinks you're taking the PvP thing too far.



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  • RexKushmanRexKushman Member RarePosts: 639
    I would really love to know when the OP played the game, as this review sounds like it was written a month ago.

    I play Atlas every day, I've got a small claim on an island where me and my buddy have been building. We've got a Schooner decked out in cannons for taking on Ships of the Damned and a Brig for resource runs and a Galleon currently under construction. I tamed an elephant, a bear, 2 pigs and 2 sheep along with countless monkeys that have each unfortunately fallen in battle. We are having an absolute blast playing it.

    I simply don't and haven't had the terrible experiences that people like the OP constantly go on about. I have a decent rig, i7 and a 1080ti and play games at 2560x1440. I don't have performance issues, being at or above 60fps at almost all times. I don't have game crashes or lag issues.

    Right now we are working on gathering resources for the Galleon build, collecting treasure maps, leveling up, farming and building up our base. We've gone to the Fountain of Youth and rejuvenated our characters for the permenant buff.

    I've got tons of awesome memories just from our short time with the game so far, the best being losing our first Schooner to a SOTD and us having to abandon ship with nothing but our pets monkey and chicken. As we swan away from the wreckage and sharks began to circle. Just then a rainbow painted Brig sailed past and we clung to it's emergency ladder until the captain got us near an island that we could swim to. We never did make it home though and lost a very brave monkey and chicken to an Alpha Pig.

    People can hate on the game all they want, it's grabbed us in a way that most other games simply fail to do.
    KyleranSovrathMaldrekHatefull

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