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Bungie Breaks Up with Activision, Regains Full Destiny Publication Rights - MMORPG.com

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  • esc-joconnoresc-joconnor Member RarePosts: 964


    They only made what could be argued as the greatest scifi FPS prior to that so yeah.



    Someone's never player Borderlands ;)
    Torvalblueturtle13Nyctelios
  • Panserbjorne39Panserbjorne39 Member UncommonPosts: 142
    Good. Activision's aggressive monetization schemes literally suck the soul and fun out of the games they publish.
  • WarlyxWarlyx Member RarePosts: 2,755
    interesting noneless , hope Bungie can bring what made their games amazing again...
  • bcbullybcbully Member RarePosts: 9,462
    gervaise1 said:
    Worth remembering that Activision don't, and have never, owned Blizzard. Vivendi bought both and the subsequent buy-out created Activision Blizzard - which subsequently bought King. Maybe there could be a stock market share split but I doubt it.
    Vivendi owned Activision. Activision aquired Blizzard. Bobby Kotick was placed as the head of Acti-Blizz
  • LobotomistLobotomist Member RarePosts: 5,788
    So Bungie successfully escapes. Good for them.
    Sadly I dont think Blizzard will manage.

    The people like Morhaime were Blizzard. Now that they left , the company could easily be called something else
    bcbullyMisterZebub



  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member RarePosts: 6,191

    Tyr216 said:

    So what's going to happen to my free copy of Destiny 2 via Battle Net?



    It will be yours to own or transferred to a dedicated Bungie launcher later on. I actually paid for a full copy of Destiny 2 + Forsaken via Battle.net.
    They can't just tell the entire PC player base that they lose their Destiny 2 license, because Bungie is leaving ActiVision.
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member RarePosts: 6,191


    I expect Blizzarrd is about be the next too either break off as Blizzard, or selling the entity and creating an entirely new studio.



    That is not gonna happen, since ActiVision got rid of all the old garde at Blizzard and will be now in full control of Blizzard.
  • XiaokiXiaoki Member RarePosts: 3,167
    bcbully said:
    gervaise1 said:
    Worth remembering that Activision don't, and have never, owned Blizzard. Vivendi bought both and the subsequent buy-out created Activision Blizzard - which subsequently bought King. Maybe there could be a stock market share split but I doubt it.
    Vivendi owned Activision. Activision aquired Blizzard. Bobby Kotick was placed as the head of Acti-Blizz
    Even after bcbully explained it you STILL got it wrong.

    Blizzard was acquired by Vivendi all the way back in 98.
  • PhryPhry Member EpicPosts: 10,403
    Bungie basically got a quickie divorce and is heading for the hills, if it was possible for Blizzard to do the same, then that would be the next step. Blizzards games are 'failing' and Activision hasn't released a good game in quite a while. Activision isn't too big to fail. :p
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 9,727

    bcbully said:

    Makes me wonder how bad WoW is really doing...



    Everyone tied to Acti is doing bad right now. I'm just waiting for the new Raid Battle for Dazar'alor to see what will happen with Jaina. If she dies in the lore for this raid they wont see a penny from me ever again. Ever.
    cheyane




  • XarkoXarko Member RarePosts: 1,011
    I like what CliffyB said about it:

    Bungie splits with Activision.

    Y'all knew what you signed up for from the get go.

    Still, glad y'all got the rights back.

    Now? Self publish. Control your...

    Destiny?
    As if good ole Cliffy knows anything about being in control, ha.
  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,370
    Xarko said:
    I like what CliffyB said about it:

    Bungie splits with Activision.

    Y'all knew what you signed up for from the get go.

    Still, glad y'all got the rights back.

    Now? Self publish. Control your...

    Destiny?
    As if good ole Cliffy knows anything about being in control, ha.
    Well true but he is just an outsider looking in now. He is working on Broadway now
    Torval

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  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 5,654
    edited January 11
    Kootur said:
    Maybe they can make some of the characters gay. Thats what they are doing to keep overwatch relevant.
    And of all characters, they picked the grizzled war vet, S76. And not that gayish Lucio lol. Epic fail. I think I can safely say that ATVI is currently commiting a suicide, hoping for something...ephemeral we as a public don't know about. But something's going on. ATVI took a nosedive, Samsung had like 20% less sales in Q4...
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 5,709
    edited January 11
    bcbully said:
    gervaise1 said:
    Worth remembering that Activision don't, and have never, owned Blizzard. Vivendi bought both and the subsequent buy-out created Activision Blizzard - which subsequently bought King. Maybe there could be a stock market share split but I doubt it.
    Vivendi owned Activision. Activision aquired Blizzard. Bobby Kotick was placed as the head of Acti-Blizz
    Not so. Its messy.

    Blizzard Entertainment were acquired by Davidson & Associates in March 1994.
    D&A were taken over by CUC International in 1996.
    1997 CUC merged with Hospitality Franchise Systems, renamed Cendant Software.
    1998 Cendant software acquired by Havas, named Havas Interactive.
    Havas Interactive renamed Vivendi Interactive Universal Publishing in 2001.
    2006 - after more stuff - became Vivendi Games. Which owned Blizzard Entertainment.

    Which - after Warcraft, Diablo, Starcraft, WoW etc. were without doubt the crown jewels and driving force behind: D&A, CUC, Cendant Software, Havas Interactive, Havas Interactive Universal Publishing and - ultimately - Vivendi Games. All done without an Activision in sight. Until:

    2007 Vivendi Games merged with Activision and a holding company called Activision Blizzard was set up.

    OK I should have said merger rather than Vivendi bought but th ekey point is that Activision did not buy Blizzard. 


    Yes Bobby Kotick became CEO but Bruce Hack - previously the CEO of Vivendi Games - became vice-chairman and CCO (chief operating officer).

    And until they split from the rest of Vivendi the impression you always got was that the "Blizzard of old" ran its own ship. As it had been doing since 1994.

     
    Post edited by gervaise1 on
  • RobbgobbRobbgobb Member UncommonPosts: 646
    I don't Trust the devs of Bungie to make what I want. It feels like to make progress that they add more roadblocks that are not fun. I can't even bring myself to want to log into Destiny.
  • WarEnsembleWarEnsemble Member UncommonPosts: 128
    When Immortals tanks (and it will) Blizzard will be filing for bankruptcy. Just wait.
    Gdemami
  • XiaokiXiaoki Member RarePosts: 3,167
    When Immortals tanks (and it will) Blizzard will be filing for bankruptcy. Just wait.
    Your post, while ignorant, makes no sense.

    Blizzard is owned by Activision Blizzard and Activision Blizzard probably made over $7.5 billion in revenue in 2018.

    Thats like saying Diet Sierra Mist will tank and Diet Sierra Mist will go bankrupt.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 15,775
    Xiaoki said:
    When Immortals tanks (and it will) Blizzard will be filing for bankruptcy. Just wait.
    Your post, while ignorant, makes no sense.

    Blizzard is owned by Activision Blizzard and Activision Blizzard probably made over $7.5 billion in revenue in 2018.

    Thats like saying Diet Sierra Mist will tank and Diet Sierra Mist will go bankrupt.
    Apparently like so many,you only see the numbers they want you to see,all looks great...rosey.

    This is why there are laws and commissions overlooking all that is stock related because there are people for everything to lie,cheat,manipulate to get rich.
    There should have been a contract in place between Bungie and Acti so i imagine there is way more to it than simply saying Bungie is leaving.
    So much more in the books and behind closed doors that none of us will ever know the truth about.I do have a good understanding on what basically goes on from manipulating numbers in books to different quarters and for various reasons to allowing marketing firms to post over the top numbers in sales to help promote more sales etc etc.

    Me personally,all i really care about is finding some real fun games to play.I also will call out any dev i feel is downright trying to scam people,i do not want scummy developers/publishers polluting my game space.I only want to see the MORE honest,will never have any 100% honest businesses but see those good ones get all the credit they deserve.
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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,437
    d_20 said:
    Based on what as that is very very vague at best.

    Only thing I could imagine is they knew the stock would tank and someone sold off a bunch of shares right before the announcement possibly.

    Ambulance chasers would be another possibility.
    cheyaneSBFord
  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    d_20 said:
    Based on what as that is very very vague at best.

    Only thing I could imagine is they knew the stock would tank and someone sold off a bunch of shares right before the announcement possibly.

    Ambulance chasers would be another possibility.
    We'll see.


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  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 32,110
    edited January 12
    d_20 said:
    Based on what as that is very very vague at best.

    Only thing I could imagine is they knew the stock would tank and someone sold off a bunch of shares right before the announcement possibly.

    Ambulance chasers would be another possibility.
    WAAAAAAAAY too vague

    I agree with your last statement @parrotpholk. Anyone can contact an attorney for any reason, but it's going to be tough to prove malfeasance on the part of execs. I mean...it wouldn't have taken much gray matter to know that breaking with Bungie was going to cause the stock to tank somewhat. 

    I think ATVI has made a lot of blunders lately, but knowing how "under the microscope they've been recently, any exec who perpetrated some type of fraud surrounding the break with Bungie would have to be a moron. I don't buy it. :D

    While I know it's popular to hate corporations in general and Blizzard in particular, I'll wait and see how it shakes out before I get too excited about some attorney investigating the issue.


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  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    edited January 13
    SBFord said:
    d_20 said:
    Based on what as that is very very vague at best.

    Only thing I could imagine is they knew the stock would tank and someone sold off a bunch of shares right before the announcement possibly.

    Ambulance chasers would be another possibility.
    WAAAAAAAAY too vague

    I agree with your last statement @parrotpholk. Anyone can contact an attorney for any reason, but it's going to be tough to prove malfeasance on the part of execs. I mean...it wouldn't have taken much gray matter to know that breaking with Bungie was going to cause the stock to tank somewhat. 

    I think ATVI has made a lot of blunders lately, but knowing how "under the microscope they've been recently, any exec who perpetrated some type of fraud surrounding the break with Bungie would have to be a moron. I don't buy it. :D

    While I know it's popular to hate corporations in general and Blizzard in particular, I'll wait and see how it shakes out before I get too excited about some attorney investigating the issue.


    Maybe so, but just FYI this law firm is not a group of ambulance chasers. They have won major cases and multi-billion dollar settlements representing investors for share recoveries and so on v the likes of Barclay's, BP, Petrobas, etc. They specialize in this -- representing investors v large corporations.

    From an attorney's point of view, they wouldn't be committing the resources and billable hours to it if they didn't think they had a good chance to get something from it. And these things can be settled out of court for pretty substantial sums, so we may never see a filing. Like I said, we'll see. But first you should research that it's not just "some attorney." I don't know who's handling this case or how many attorneys are on it. I would imagine more than one associate or junior partner for a matter like this.
    Post edited by d_20 on


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