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Marvel's Stan Lee Memorialized in World of Warcraft

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  • azonic69azonic69 Member UncommonPosts: 83

    lahnmir said:


    redcore said:



    Jamar870 said:


    azonic69, citation please or STFU






    STFU? Heh - he is actually right. To me SL looked like an arrogant asshole and I never liked him!

    I dont think that "Stanley" can be killed...pity


    That you agree with him doesn’t make him right, it could make you both wrong. You can have your opinion of course, and that ‘hehehe let me rain on the parade just because i can’ attitude too. Stan Lee his legacy speaks volumes whether you like him or not.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir 



    Here is part of why he was shitty.

    This allowed for huge creative freedom and sped up the production process considerably – a real benefit for a small company with big ambitions. But the artists’ work was not always fully recognised. They were being credited purely for the art when they were often creating the characters and story, too – before Lee layered the dialogue and captions on top.

    Lee compounded this recognition problem in interviews and in books like Origins of Marvel Comics (1974), where he talked enthusiastically about how he had created all the stories and characters. The artists knew different. Frustrated by creative differences, Ditko left in 1965 and Kirby went five years later.
  • F2PlagueF2Plague Member UncommonPosts: 192
    edited January 11
    Is being immortalized in a dying game with no direction really being immortalized at all?

    Games have expiry dates. And while WoW is still chugging along I think we can all agree its far past its best before date and is aging like a bad cheese.

    Pretty sure Stan Lee did a pretty good job at immortalizing himself with ink and paper. Nice try Blizzard.


  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,982
    azonic69 said:

    lahnmir said:


    redcore said:



    Jamar870 said:


    azonic69, citation please or STFU






    STFU? Heh - he is actually right. To me SL looked like an arrogant asshole and I never liked him!

    I dont think that "Stanley" can be killed...pity


    That you agree with him doesn’t make him right, it could make you both wrong. You can have your opinion of course, and that ‘hehehe let me rain on the parade just because i can’ attitude too. Stan Lee his legacy speaks volumes whether you like him or not.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir 



    He made his money on other artists back and shared very little of the profit with them, a lot of the characters that you think he created, were the work of other people, that you don't want to google for that information is not my problem.
    After all, if it's on the internet, it has to be true.

    Lulz

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  • azonic69azonic69 Member UncommonPosts: 83
    edited January 11

    Kyleran said:


    azonic69 said:



    lahnmir said:




    redcore said:





    Jamar870 said:



    azonic69, citation please or STFU









    STFU? Heh - he is actually right. To me SL looked like an arrogant asshole and I never liked him!


    I dont think that "Stanley" can be killed...pity




    That you agree with him doesn’t make him right, it could make you both wrong. You can have your opinion of course, and that ‘hehehe let me rain on the parade just because i can’ attitude too. Stan Lee his legacy speaks volumes whether you like him or not.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir 







    He made his money on other artists back and shared very little of the profit with them, a lot of the characters that you think he created, were the work of other people, that you don't want to google for that information is not my problem.



    After all, if it's on the internet, it has to be true.

    Lulz



    And where do you get your information smart guy?
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    azonic69 said:
    Kyleran said:
    azonic69 said:
    lahnmir said:
    redcore said:
    Jamar870 said:
    azonic69, citation please or STFU
    STFU? Heh - he is actually right. To me SL looked like an arrogant asshole and I never liked him!

    I dont think that "Stanley" can be killed...pity
    That you agree with him doesn’t make him right, it could make you both wrong. You can have your opinion of course, and that ‘hehehe let me rain on the parade just because i can’ attitude too. Stan Lee his legacy speaks volumes whether you like him or not.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir 
    He made his money on other artists back and shared very little of the profit with them, a lot of the characters that you think he created, were the work of other people, that you don't want to google for that information is not my problem.
    After all, if it's on the internet, it has to be true.

    Lulz
    And where to you get your information smart guy?
    Ah ah ah. You made the charge that Stan Lee is something less than he is portrayed as. The burden of proof is yours. So...we're waiting. :) 


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,833
    Besides the point of whether they are right or not, it is also in the way the other side voices it, the attitude that comes with it. And although I have heard these stories before and I think there might be some truth to them, it still doesn’t take away from Lee his massive legacy. No need for anyone to act all schmuck about it.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    SBFord
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    lahnmir said:
    Besides the point of whether they are right or not, it is also in the way the other side voices it, the attitude that comes with it. And although I have heard these stories before and I think there might be some truth to them, it still doesn’t take away from Lee his massive legacy. No need for anyone to act all schmuck about it.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Agreed. Lee may be the forward "face" of Marvel comics and, as such, he is the one people remember and credit with changed lives and brilliant memories. He was a likeable, affable man with fans and that leaves a legacy. If it doesn't make someone feel the same, so be it. Honestly, I will never understand this proclivity to crap on other people's joy. When I don't like something or someone, I leave.


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


  • azonic69azonic69 Member UncommonPosts: 83

    SBFord said:


    lahnmir said:

    Besides the point of whether they are right or not, it is also in the way the other side voices it, the attitude that comes with it. And although I have heard these stories before and I think there might be some truth to them, it still doesn’t take away from Lee his massive legacy. No need for anyone to act all schmuck about it.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir


    Agreed. Lee may be the forward "face" of Marvel comics and, as such, he is the one people remember and credit with changed lives and brilliant memories. He was a likeable, affable man with fans and that leaves a legacy. If it doesn't make someone feel the same, so be it. Honestly, I will never understand this proclivity to crap on other people's joy. When I don't like something or someone, I leave.



    So it's okay to celebrate someone that made millions on the back of other people while they pretty much lived in poverty.

    https://comicbookhistorians.com/marvel-1960s-jack-kirby-stan-lee-steve-ditko-who-created-what/

    Now you're gonna tell me the source is shit, and that's fine but when the same reports come out over and over again, there's something to it.
  • rodarinrodarin Member RarePosts: 2,451
    I was wondering when the character assassination would start. I dont like to be the guy who says I know a guy who knows a guy. But I do in a few cases and the guy was either a royal prick or the nicest guy ever, depends on who you ask I guess. I know people from both camps who interacted with him, the common theme was the older he got the more extreme. So he either got nicer or shittier. Depending on how he treated you going along.

    Also some stories but anecdotal and not worth repeating gossip. Also dont speak ill of the dead.

    But from my experiences when people have two different personas generally the lesser one is the more truthful one because theyre more than likely trying to hide something when theyre acting a certain way to one group over another. Thats why I am a prick to everyone no one ever has to guess.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,833
    azonic69 said:

    SBFord said:


    lahnmir said:

    Besides the point of whether they are right or not, it is also in the way the other side voices it, the attitude that comes with it. And although I have heard these stories before and I think there might be some truth to them, it still doesn’t take away from Lee his massive legacy. No need for anyone to act all schmuck about it.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir


    Agreed. Lee may be the forward "face" of Marvel comics and, as such, he is the one people remember and credit with changed lives and brilliant memories. He was a likeable, affable man with fans and that leaves a legacy. If it doesn't make someone feel the same, so be it. Honestly, I will never understand this proclivity to crap on other people's joy. When I don't like something or someone, I leave.



    So it's okay to celebrate someone that made millions on the back of other people while they pretty much lived in poverty.

    https://comicbookhistorians.com/marvel-1960s-jack-kirby-stan-lee-steve-ditko-who-created-what/

    Now you're gonna tell me the source is shit, and that's fine but when the same reports come out over and over again, there's something to it.
    There are countless reports talking about how awesome he was, your point? No, scrap that, its not about your point. Its about the time and the place you decided to share it, about the words you use and how schmuck you come across. Why are you doing this? You got some kind of grudge against the old, deceased guy? And why should we care? Are we the uneducated masses that need to be enlightened? 

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    SBFord
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
  • azonic69azonic69 Member UncommonPosts: 83
    edited January 11

    lahnmir said:


    azonic69 said:



    SBFord said:




    lahnmir said:


    Besides the point of whether they are right or not, it is also in the way the other side voices it, the attitude that comes with it. And although I have heard these stories before and I think there might be some truth to them, it still doesn’t take away from Lee his massive legacy. No need for anyone to act all schmuck about it.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir




    Agreed. Lee may be the forward "face" of Marvel comics and, as such, he is the one people remember and credit with changed lives and brilliant memories. He was a likeable, affable man with fans and that leaves a legacy. If it doesn't make someone feel the same, so be it. Honestly, I will never understand this proclivity to crap on other people's joy. When I don't like something or someone, I leave.






    So it's okay to celebrate someone that made millions on the back of other people while they pretty much lived in poverty.



    https://comicbookhistorians.com/marvel-1960s-jack-kirby-stan-lee-steve-ditko-who-created-what/



    Now you're gonna tell me the source is shit, and that's fine but when the same reports come out over and over again, there's something to it.


    There are countless reports talking about how awesome he was, your point? No, scrap that, its not about your point. Its about the time and the place you decided to share it, about the words you use and how schmuck you come across. Why are you doing this? You got some kind of grudge against the old, deceased guy? And why should we care? Are we the uneducated masses that need to be enlightened? 

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir



    My point is that his incredible legacy is not even his. The countless reports of him being awesome are towards fan, which i have no doubt he was good towards, my problem with Stan Lee idolization is that he was a thief that didn't even give proper credit to the characters creators.
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