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Big News: Unity preventing SpatialOS from working on their platform
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- Unity’s block of SpatialOS: The game engine provider Unity recently changed (Dec 5) and then clarified directly to us (9 Jan) their terms of service to specifically disallow services like Improbable’s to function with their engine. This was previously freely possible in their terms, as with other major engines.
- What this means: Unity has clarified to us that this change effectively makes it a breach of terms to operate or create SpatialOS games using Unity, including in development and production games.
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I think this is a really bold move by Unity. It appears they are trying to lock people into using their services, which in the future could mean they are well within their rights to ban sales from Steam and you can only use their fancy, new site(speculation as this obviously does not exist right now).
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)
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Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
So players should be even less affected than normal developers. As long as the two engine developers stay sane.
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https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-01-10-unity-explains-improbable-license-revocation-calls-spatialos-creators-post-incorrect
https://blogs.unity3d.com/2019/01/10/our-response-to-improbables-blog-post-and-why-you-can-keep-working-on-your-spatialos-game/
Seems in-development and production games are both safe, it's just new projects that are not approved for use of SpatialOS. You can still use other third party servers and platforms. In the case of servers it's pretty open, in the case of a full platform, they need to be a "Unity approved partner" and abide the Unity EULA.
Which Unity claims Improbable was in breach of, which is what prompted Unity to remove them from being a Unity approved partner after attempts to resolve the issue failed.
We really need to not spin out conspiratorial rhetoric before knowing the full scope of a situation.
"Safe" In my context meant Unity is not killing anyone's current projects just because of Improbable losing their approval. People can still continue development and published titles are not affected.
You just used "safe" to talk about middleware security, which is an entirely different issue than the subject of the thread in the first place.
Yes, using "unsupported" middleware is unsafe. SpatialOS is supported by Improbable though. They are just not a Unity approved partner any more. I would still raise questions regarding the fact that they apparently broke the EULA for unity, and that's why this all happened. So that could be a red flag, though one would need to know what part of the EULA they broke.
You seem to be mixing up the notion of support and approval.
I am using it in the same context as you are and pointing out, despite they can use SpatialOS legaly, they are far from unaffected - lack of support and further development/fixes on SpatialOS integration is a big deal.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
So let's not claim an absolute out of an assumption.