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Big News: Unity preventing SpatialOS from working on their platform
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- Unity’s block of SpatialOS: The game engine provider Unity recently changed (Dec 5) and then clarified directly to us (9 Jan) their terms of service to specifically disallow services like Improbable’s to function with their engine. This was previously freely possible in their terms, as with other major engines.
- What this means: Unity has clarified to us that this change effectively makes it a breach of terms to operate or create SpatialOS games using Unity, including in development and production games.
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I think this is a really bold move by Unity. It appears they are trying to lock people into using their services, which in the future could mean they are well within their rights to ban sales from Steam and you can only use their fancy, new site(speculation as this obviously does not exist right now).
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)
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My ignore list finally has one occupant after 12 years. I am the strongest supporter of free speech on here, but free speech does not mean forced listening. Have fun my friend. Hope you find a new stalking target.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
So players should be even less affected than normal developers. As long as the two engine developers stay sane.
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https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-01-10-unity-explains-improbable-license-revocation-calls-spatialos-creators-post-incorrect
https://blogs.unity3d.com/2019/01/10/our-response-to-improbables-blog-post-and-why-you-can-keep-working-on-your-spatialos-game/
Seems in-development and production games are both safe, it's just new projects that are not approved for use of SpatialOS. You can still use other third party servers and platforms. In the case of servers it's pretty open, in the case of a full platform, they need to be a "Unity approved partner" and abide the Unity EULA.
Which Unity claims Improbable was in breach of, which is what prompted Unity to remove them from being a Unity approved partner after attempts to resolve the issue failed.
We really need to not spin out conspiratorial rhetoric before knowing the full scope of a situation.
"Safe" In my context meant Unity is not killing anyone's current projects just because of Improbable losing their approval. People can still continue development and published titles are not affected.
You just used "safe" to talk about middleware security, which is an entirely different issue than the subject of the thread in the first place.
Yes, using "unsupported" middleware is unsafe. SpatialOS is supported by Improbable though. They are just not a Unity approved partner any more. I would still raise questions regarding the fact that they apparently broke the EULA for unity, and that's why this all happened. So that could be a red flag, though one would need to know what part of the EULA they broke.
You seem to be mixing up the notion of support and approval.
I am using it in the same context as you are and pointing out, despite they can use SpatialOS legaly, they are far from unaffected - lack of support and further development/fixes on SpatialOS integration is a big deal.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
So let's not claim an absolute out of an assumption.
Oh, it's not.
I just noticed you inserted a "buy research paper" link in there, so I am questioning the nature of your existence and comment. Just isolated it to note, burying ad links in comments ain't exactly standard.
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Amazing how something thought resolved can crop up again because of a random bot trying to sell junk.
Kidding, probably some weird issue with my phone browser.
I've flagged the original.
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https://fracturedmmo.com/state-game-2-2018-alpha-1-unity/
Thats the last time they talked about it... Its at the very end of the Article...
ADDITIONAL INFO
UNITY VS IMPROBABLE
You likely know about the Unity vs Improbable quarrel, as it’s been featured everywhere on gaming media. If not, we explained that in brief in a forum thread when the news broke.
After some heated exchanges on the press, Unity changed its Terms of Service to allow any Third Party Service (such as SpatialOS) to use their engine as a server and re-instated the Improbable licenses. Case closed.
In the end, it was all just a big scare. We are still working with Unity, SpatialOS, and the awesome integration between the two that is allowing us to build an ambitious MMO like Fractured without a AAA-sized team!
2. spatialos is using unity
3. why would spatial think they could sell their "mod" .
4. anyone witha logical brain should've seen this right away.
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I'll have to see what the current state of that is if Unity is ok with them now.
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