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Bethesda Publishes Extensive Fallout 76 Patch Notes - MMORPG.com
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Bethesda Publishes Extensive Fallout 76 Patch Notes - MMORPG.com
After criticism for undocumented changes in past patches, the Fallout 76 team is showing that it took the community's feedback to heart. Today's update notes are extensive and include a "highlights" section as well as detailed notes across a broad array of adjusted features, bug fixes and more.
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When does it officially release?
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Hello The Outer Worlds !
Again the amount of flack these guys are getting is amazing.
If it were Chris Roberts getting this much widespread hate there would be a whole new army of new accounts made to obfuscate and misdirect every FO76 topic.
Luckily though SC is completely perfect and no criticisms of that project are needed at all....
Your comparison fundamentally does not work because Bethesda has gotten a free pass for years. They are a beloved company, and more people feel surprised and betrayed by Fallout 76 than contemptuous, and there is more than enough defense of the game.
A more accurate comparison would be that if EA released Fallout 76, no one would be defending it and they would be burned at the stake. How do I know this? Because we did it to them last year with Mass Effect Andromeda, and even that canned mediocrity is a better game than Fallout 76 is, was, or ever will be.
Things would have gone far better with even a 2 or 3 month post beta fix cycle before launching, but you know how it goes, "The Revenues Must Flow!", especially before Christmas.
Pity.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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All i see is the release notes for the new patch it doesn't mention any bug fixes for the last patch. I wonder what new bugs are coming. Standby, Orkin.
The ONLY thing (IMO) they didnt do that they should have done was when they lowered the price for the Black friday sale they should have given everyone who ordered it the same price. But since the price is once again full price then I guess thats how they justify it.
Its the first (technically) try for Bethesda at a multiplayer online game. They should get SOME slack. But yeah they have always released buggy messes on release. Doesnt make it right but people should know it by now. Everyone suddenly NOW piling on is ridiculous.
I will say the same thing in 10 years (if) Star Citizen releases and suddenly everyone is bashing it. Where are those people now?
I have been consistent with my criticisms of Bethesda/Zenimax for years. Probably why I can look at this whole FO 76 thing a little more objectively.
You have guys who are admitted fallout fanboys now jumping ship and doing the whole "I dont trust Bethesda rant" even though theyre also in the camp (no pun) that got the REAL canvas bag (for being kiss asses) those guys are as hypocritical and foolish as it comes.
Cohh Carnage went on a whole rant about how its totally possible that because a one off game like FO 76 released like it did every future Bethesda game will release like that. Well they have all released buggy so that isnt a Nostradamus like prediction, but they havent been close to as buggy as FO 76 was. But it just reeks of being disingenuous. Not to mention all those games will have the same thing they have always had to make them epic...modders.
It just bugs me that it gets so crazy. Its like Bethesda is Trump or something. Everyone knew what he was long before he ran for president. He has only been in the public eye for 40+ years. But somehow everyone is butthurt because he says what he says.
But I think its true everyone is becoming addicted to outrage, or at least hyperbole.
"concept"is a dead giveaway for what a developer is trying to accomplish.Soon i get any glimpse of an APOC type game i know the dev is simply aiming for a cheap method to sell a game.Remember that term ...CONCEPT,it should tell all of you what to expect from a game.
The first real glance i got from this type of strategy was with GW2,tons of bull was fed to the media,readers,tons of EXCUSES as to why they were designing the game the way they did and why they offered it as b2p.
People need to wake up,these developers are NOT doing it for you,they are doing it for themselves,the absolute minimum they can get away with.You think a PATCH NOTE changes anything,they already tried to scam every one of you,they are a scummy business,don't support them,that way they MIGHT come back next time with a real effort.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
And "our games have a few bugs," isn't cute like they presented it as at E3. That's on Bethesda for not doing better, and on us for cutting them, and only them, slack.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Even their single player games got some in house developmental fixes. Modders still did it better but they at least made the effort.
Bethesda in no way shape or form has been out of character with this game. The only difference is more randos got in on the bashing.
I was critical of Skyrim as well as ESO. Similar to my critical comments on FO 76. Like I said thats why I have better perspective I guess. I have always seen their faults.
Where is the hate for a game that swept the video game awards?
Red Dead Redemption single player was touted as the best thing ever made. The multiplayer version was complete and total ass. On a lot of levels worse than FO 76. I havent seen a SINGLE negative comment let alone review of that mess.
Its all the sheep/herd mentality. Because people dont actually take the time to actually play a game or at least get enough of an experience from it to form any sort of valid point. SO on one hand you have everyone and their brother hating on FO 76 on the other you (had) everyone circle jerking over RDRII.
Its ironic because there WERE some comparison threads (when they didnt compare) but when they did (when both had multiplayer platform) those comparisons stopped because people saw how horrible the multiplayer was in RDRII. Of course the excuse/reason will be RDRII hasnt been released on PC yet. Irrelevant because FO 76 was released on all consoles so those platforms can definitely be compared.
Also no one wants to admit the game is getting better. FO 76 that is. This last patch today hasnt had any bugs associated with it (yet). Of course there are still the random issues it has had and the duping problems. But I suspect those will be a long time coming as the whole PvP portion of the game is nearly hopelessly broken. Which is also ironic since most people complaining about FO 76 in particular are the same ones who will be on claiming PvP in an open world is garbage in general. So selective hate basically.
Unlike most devs, Bethesda has gotten a lot of passes when it comes to half-broken games put as a fully released game when most devs are usually crucified if they do that, what we notice presently is them being held to what people expect from a full-priced released AAA title.
Like seriously, we are talking about the company that leaves bug-fixes in the hands of modders, and does the new title with the same bugs as before when the modders managed the workarounds, why wouldn't people get mad when faced with this sort of BS on a beloved IP?
The fact it was most deff faster and cheaper is actually a bad thing here because it shows this was a result of a cheap low effort from one of the biggest game dev companies around in one of the biggest IPs.
While you try to derail that debate towards SC, that argument has no merits, it is one unreleased unfinished and a half-broken game that does not promote itself as a finished product or having a polished game experience.
I get it, you're trying to prove a point in your opinion on what is happening but unfortunately;
ESO is developed by Zenimax and published by Bethesda.
Fallout 3/4 and Elder Scrolls (SP) is developed/published by Bethesda and fixed by the mod community.
Bethesda is a very lazy company which keep proving it on every release. I believe people are finally fed up with it.
Been playing for a couple weeks without nearly the issues some report, probably cause I'm just so pro when it comes to video games and computers.
It's been pretty entertaining so far, and as many know, I hate most everything.
Guess I'm just mellowing these days.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
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Now and like you said, Bethesda itself developed titles we end up seeing the same bug in multiple titles because it's all built under their ancient wonky game engine (that is not used by ESO btw).... the moment you resort to modder to go fix a bug or get QoL improvements on a Bethesda game you know there is something abnormal going on here.
The moment I heard online+pvp on 76 I knew it was going to do sideways, one thing is the usual derps on the SP title, but that in MP with PvP the whole thing gets way edgier.
Bethesda intentionally moves to a title that locks out their modding community, tries to be cheapskates about the CE edition, and did all that while taking the franchise in a significantly new direction. Then they showed other players your personal information when you tried to get the appropriate CE item you paid for.
They then said "okay, we understand, we're gonna be better..... But not at this next opportunity. The time after that, we mean!"
I knew the title was merely a time-passer and an injection of cash for Bethesda while they work on the projects they actually want to work on. I didn't expect Bethesda to make that fact so painfully obvious to everyone.
Zenimax revived eso, not bethesda. And seeing as zenimax only gave some networking advice here and there in fo76. Doubt they will do much more as even that part isnt working well
https://ashesofcreation.com/r/Y4U3PQCASUPJ5SED
The engine is dying yep. And then Bethesda feels like its a good idea to tell everyone " dont worry, we will use it to build elder scrolls 6 ". As much as an engine exists out of a group of tools that can all be replaced and upgraded. They need to replace every freaking part of it to make elder scrolls 6 functioning and im almost sure they will not do that
https://ashesofcreation.com/r/Y4U3PQCASUPJ5SED