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Before you support Bethesda with Fallout 76 or any of their future games...
TheScavenger
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Here is SOME of the bad bethesda has done...which is no different than EA (especially destroying companies)
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/06/28/bethesda-suing-warner-bros-for-blatant-rip-off-of-fallout-shelter
While nothing has come of that yet. From warner bros they said no code was copied. And copying game ideas is NOT illegal. IF copying games was illegal, then all the WoW clones need to be shut down RIGHT NOW and every other clone game needs to be removed RIGHT NOW
And here Bethesda screwed interplay hard
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/9/17665046/fallout-online-project-v13-interplay-bethesda-lawsuit-fallout-76
"Then, Interplay crashed hard. Facing budget shortfalls, it was taken over by French company Titus Software, which gutted its studios and laid off the entire Van Buren staff. It released a widely hated Fallout spinoff called Brotherhood of Steel, and its finances became so dire that the offices briefly"
"It cut a $5.75 million deal that would leave Interplay with the rights to build a massively multiplayer Fallout game, as long as it secured $30 million in financing, commenced full-scale development within two years, and launched within four years after that. It was an ambitious timeline for the developer of any big online game, let alone one in the dire straits Interplay had found itself in."
"Eric, it was a calculated gamble for Bethesda. Caen claims Interplay had offered to sell the MMO rights, but that Bethesda had balked at the proposed $50 million price. Instead, it agreed to terms that the shrunken, cash-strapped Interplay seemed unlikely to satisfy, on the condition that it could recover the rights for free if (or when) Interplay failed."
"But Anderson slowly decided that the project was hopeless. “It was impossible to get anything approved through Bethesda,” he told GamesTM. And when he looked at the stringent terms of the contract, “it became very clear to me that Bethesda had no intention of ever allowing Interplay to actually create an MMO.” In early 2009, he left Interplay for a job at InXile Entertainment, working on a sequel to Fallout’s spiritual predecessor Wasteland."
They also REFUSED Obsidian's offer to make another Fallout. Because they know they'd make a far better game than they could, but they (Bethesda) also want multiplayer only, microtransaction infested games and want nothing to do with Steam any longer
Supporting Bethesda is now no longer different than supporting EA
Also bethesda knew interplay couldn't get 30 million in financing, and they also knew they could get the rights for free by destroying interplay. They also knew there is no way to make a good MMO in FOUR years (impossible). They sabotaged interplay.
And that is only a tiny bit of how bad Bethesda is now.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/06/28/bethesda-suing-warner-bros-for-blatant-rip-off-of-fallout-shelter
While nothing has come of that yet. From warner bros they said no code was copied. And copying game ideas is NOT illegal. IF copying games was illegal, then all the WoW clones need to be shut down RIGHT NOW and every other clone game needs to be removed RIGHT NOW
And here Bethesda screwed interplay hard
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/9/17665046/fallout-online-project-v13-interplay-bethesda-lawsuit-fallout-76
"Then, Interplay crashed hard. Facing budget shortfalls, it was taken over by French company Titus Software, which gutted its studios and laid off the entire Van Buren staff. It released a widely hated Fallout spinoff called Brotherhood of Steel, and its finances became so dire that the offices briefly"
"It cut a $5.75 million deal that would leave Interplay with the rights to build a massively multiplayer Fallout game, as long as it secured $30 million in financing, commenced full-scale development within two years, and launched within four years after that. It was an ambitious timeline for the developer of any big online game, let alone one in the dire straits Interplay had found itself in."
"Eric, it was a calculated gamble for Bethesda. Caen claims Interplay had offered to sell the MMO rights, but that Bethesda had balked at the proposed $50 million price. Instead, it agreed to terms that the shrunken, cash-strapped Interplay seemed unlikely to satisfy, on the condition that it could recover the rights for free if (or when) Interplay failed."
"But Anderson slowly decided that the project was hopeless. “It was impossible to get anything approved through Bethesda,” he told GamesTM. And when he looked at the stringent terms of the contract, “it became very clear to me that Bethesda had no intention of ever allowing Interplay to actually create an MMO.” In early 2009, he left Interplay for a job at InXile Entertainment, working on a sequel to Fallout’s spiritual predecessor Wasteland."
They also REFUSED Obsidian's offer to make another Fallout. Because they know they'd make a far better game than they could, but they (Bethesda) also want multiplayer only, microtransaction infested games and want nothing to do with Steam any longer
Supporting Bethesda is now no longer different than supporting EA
Also bethesda knew interplay couldn't get 30 million in financing, and they also knew they could get the rights for free by destroying interplay. They also knew there is no way to make a good MMO in FOUR years (impossible). They sabotaged interplay.
And that is only a tiny bit of how bad Bethesda is now.
My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/skyrim-anime-overhaul
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Bethesda blocking sale of used games / lawsuit consumers reselling their property?
If Interplay would be in any other business than games you'd be campaign against evil Interplay for agreeing to something they knew they couldn't do, but since Interplay was making a game you wanted you're preaching they should have an exception from the laws and rules that every other company must obey.
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bethesda may be a shady and faceless corporation (as they all pretty much are) but they had never done anything to 'me' (or gamers/hobbyist's)and I loved their games and loved their 'IP's... I knew they were greedy and a little shady with the million re-releases of Skyrim without even fixing simple bugs (which mods have already fixed) especially in the Nintendo Edition which does not have mods and gamebreaking bugs (that they have been aware of for years) were left in.
So, bethesda is shady- But they made great games imho. Their games seem to be constantly dumbing down (compare Daggerfall to Skyrim) and becoming more 'action' than 'RPG' but damn...They were still fun. They were done with care. I always felt I received a great value with a bethesda title and I expected a sort of quality- Not in technical terms but in other ways.
So for me, a bethesda game was pretty much a pre-order and I'm not a 'hype' pre-order type person in most cases. Its very rare and I rarely feel burned.
FO76 pissed me of so badly- The blatant lies,the lack of care for the IP and what I see as a blatant, low effort, asset flip, ca$h grab that not only will I never pre-order a bethesda game again, but I'lkl wait until I can buy a copy second hand so they dont get my money even if the game is stellar.
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"they make fun games"LMAO,think we have seen that over used term a billion times...FUN.
Yes i could see the massive amount of joy on streamers faces as they sat there reading a computer screen inside a computer screen...sigh.
check for loot,check for loot,check for loot,yes that becomes increasingly FUN,i could see them jump out of their seats with joy!!
NO they make BORING and shallow games.
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Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Bethesda are not my friends. We aren't buddies, I'm not taking them out to drink; I'm just buying games from them. All of those acts would make me not want to interact with the people who make said decisions on a personal level, but it has no bearing on me because
A. unless you're in the board room with them there's no possible way of actually know what transpired between the two parties since victory is written by the winners, and
B. if a game is not interesting to me then I won't buy it; but I'm not going to deny myself an interesting game just because of some brand loyalty which is an absurd belief to begin with. Unless you're Jesus himself; you have some form of skeleton in your closet. There's no such thing as a company without them.
I absolutely consider past behavior before doing business with a company. Not on a personal level, but on a consumer level.