Hey guys...ummm...anyone got...im freaking out man I just need one more hit. If anyone has a 2080ti I could hit up man send it my way. Umm yeah just one more hit on this game and I'll be good .....for like a few hours.
If someone has an 'addictive' type of personality, then virtually anything can be addictive, saying that playing video games is a form of addiction like gambling is disingenous and not based on anything factual, there have been numerous attempts to try and prove otherwise, but they have all failed. Claims about the addictiveness in video games have never stood up to scrutiny.
I always wanted to be a sex addict. That just seemed so glamorous compared to my gaming addiction. Oh well... next life maybe.
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working is addiction too. u get more money when u work more.
Ever heard the term workaholic. My old general manager who died from cancer back in 2006 was a workaholic, I had to order the guy after ten years to take a damn holiday. It wasn't for the money, he loved to work. One of most stand up guys I ever or will ever meet.
working is addiction too. u get more money when u work more.
Ever heard the term workaholic. My old general manager who died from cancer back in 2006 was a workaholic, I had to order the guy after ten years to take a damn holiday. It wasn't for the money, he loved to work. One of most stand up guys I ever or will ever meet.
R.I.P. Bill Cawthorne
Unfortunately, here in America especially, we romanticize workaholism, as if it's a quality to be admired. It isn't. That isn't a mark against the person in question, but rather the way we treat work. It destroys relationships and causes health issues, while opening the door to exploitation of employees.
working is addiction too. u get more money when u work more.
Ever heard the term workaholic. My old general manager who died from cancer back in 2006 was a workaholic, I had to order the guy after ten years to take a damn holiday. It wasn't for the money, he loved to work. One of most stand up guys I ever or will ever meet.
R.I.P. Bill Cawthorne
Unfortunately, here in America especially, we romanticize workaholism, as if it's a quality to be admired. It isn't. That isn't a mark against the person in question, but rather the way we treat work. It destroys relationships and causes health issues, while opening the door to exploitation of employees.
You think people are workaholics here? Try Japan. It's insane. People routinely work until midnight because it's expected.
And, if a company tells you that you will work out of another office in another city for a year or so you do it.
crazy.
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working is addiction too. u get more money when u work more.
Ever heard the term workaholic. My old general manager who died from cancer back in 2006 was a workaholic, I had to order the guy after ten years to take a damn holiday. It wasn't for the money, he loved to work. One of most stand up guys I ever or will ever meet.
R.I.P. Bill Cawthorne
Unfortunately, here in America especially, we romanticize workaholism, as if it's a quality to be admired. It isn't. That isn't a mark against the person in question, but rather the way we treat work. It destroys relationships and causes health issues, while opening the door to exploitation of employees.
You think people are workaholics here? Try Japan. It's insane. People routinely work until midnight because it's expected.
And, if a company tells you that you will work out of another office in another city for a year or so you do it.
crazy.
I'm aware of that and it's really sad. They can't even have functional family units because their corporate culture is fucking shit.
working is addiction too. u get more money when u work more.
Ever heard the term workaholic. My old general manager who died from cancer back in 2006 was a workaholic, I had to order the guy after ten years to take a damn holiday. It wasn't for the money, he loved to work. One of most stand up guys I ever or will ever meet.
R.I.P. Bill Cawthorne
Unfortunately, here in America especially, we romanticize workaholism, as if it's a quality to be admired. It isn't. That isn't a mark against the person in question, but rather the way we treat work. It destroys relationships and causes health issues, while opening the door to exploitation of employees.
Our western civilization romanticizes many things that leaves me scratching my head.
Bill wasn't one of the most stand up guys I ever met because he was a workaholic. He was one of the most stand up guys I ever met because of his ethics and his character. A man who was well known, respected and missed in the community.
Game addiction is no more harmful than any other hobby. It's just popular to stigmatize because it is stereotypically associated with a particular social clique that society loves to hate without due cause.
Addiction is not a hobby.
For most playing games isn't addictive, even if the amount of time devoted to the hobby by some may seem extreme to others.
Addiction goes beyond such in that an activity, no matter what it may be, is compulsively pursued to such an extent that it impairs the ability of that person to function in life, and in the most extreme cases the life of that person itself.
Addiction also exists on a scale. Some can be very much addicted yet still function in society.
And one addiction isn't equal to another of the same severity but a different subject. An addiction to cocaine is a lot more dangerous than an addiction to Netflix and the two really shouldn't be stigmatized on the same level.
Where I take umbridge with the topic of game addiction is that it is specifically being used to further stereotype, devalue, and even bully a group of people who have always stereotypically been devalued and bullied.
I did mention that addiction varies in extremity, and as such it can be far more limiting to the lives of some than others. However, if one can still function adequately in society it really it isn't at the scale where it need be addressed and could well be better described as ardent passion.
Cocaine addiction comes along with a directly related physical impact, but any addiction strong enough to compromise one's judgment will eventually take a harsh toll regardless, as it will inevitably negatively impact not only the individual but those that surround them.
That some may misuse game addiction as a tool to advance their own agenda is unfortunate, as it is with any addiction so exploited. Regardless, though not inherently addicting, like anything else gaming can be so if it reaches a state of compulsion in any particular person.
No addiction should be stigmatized, nor should any be trivialized. None of them are beneficial for those that have them or those around them.
They also shouldn't be contrived, either. Just because a person may devote a great deal of time to something they enjoy doesn't mean it is a matter of addiction. Only when a preoccupation reaches a state where it can be harmful to that person or those dependent on them is it perhaps a matter of addiction that need be addressed.
working is addiction too. u get more money when u work more.
Ever heard the term workaholic. My old general manager who died from cancer back in 2006 was a workaholic, I had to order the guy after ten years to take a damn holiday. It wasn't for the money, he loved to work. One of most stand up guys I ever or will ever meet.
R.I.P. Bill Cawthorne
Unfortunately, here in America especially, we romanticize workaholism, as if it's a quality to be admired. It isn't. That isn't a mark against the person in question, but rather the way we treat work. It destroys relationships and causes health issues, while opening the door to exploitation of employees.
You think people are workaholics here? Try Japan. It's insane. People routinely work until midnight because it's expected.
And, if a company tells you that you will work out of another office in another city for a year or so you do it.
crazy.
Don't forget China that started a 'Black Mirror' style cultural rating system and how hard people have to work over there, which is why a lot of companies have them manufacture their products.
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Secondly, your "example" OP is a horrible one. I've know a person that died from excess exercising, his heart just gave up. Does it mean that the rest of us should abstain from that horrible addiction and stop exercising?
It means it would be prudent to not exercise in such a way you risk your own life, and if you are unable to stop doing so after being made aware of such being a likely consequence that you may well be addicted to exercise.
My example is as indicative of exercising as the OP example of his friend gamer, aka, not indicative at all.
Mine is an example of how something as generally benign as exercise can be a matter of addiction if one is unable to control the compulsion to do so even when knowing it could likely lead to their own demise, which is indicative of the nature of addiction itself.
As a healthcare professional and gamer, i 100% agree that gaming cab be addicting. I suffered from gaming addiction for many years, essentially since i was 18. Im 37 now and i still get addicted to games. I can control it better than before, but many hours i should have been studying, i was gaming.
Even now, i feel horrible if i game too much. When im addicted, ill play like 40+ hours a week on top of my 60+ hour a week job and a wife and kid.
For example, in my days off from work, i end up going into work so i dont waste my time playing video games.
When bad things happen in my life i wall myself off and play video games to forget about the world. I had a patient die on me in september and spent the next month playing path of exile just so i wouldnt think about it.
Overall, video gaming is an addiction for me, i can barely control it honestly. I also think im the addiction type because i only play 1 game at a time, if im switching between games, the truth is, i dont like either.
Any thing in life can be addicting and i think gaming is a legit venue to get addicted to.
But gaming is just a gateway, the real issue is the disorders one has. I'm guessing you have some sort of anxiety disorder as anyone with that will shut themselves off from the world. You don't have to game, you could stare at a wall, lock yourself up in a room, drive around for hours by yourself, read a book, sleep all the time. My wife has this, she will shut herself away and literally do nothing but lay in bed, it's just to be alone or away from whatever situation.
That's just an example but the root of the issue is disorders and behavior as a core. What you actually gravitate to is not the addiction but the process to calm said disorder or behavior.
So no I don't agree that games are an addiction just as much as I don't agree over reading is an addiction. It doesn't fuel anything. So why is gambling an addiction? It fuels those behaviors and makes it much more aggressive.
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I am addicted to gaming. I am also addicted to breathing, eating, drinking and sleeping. I see no reason to take actions to endanger any of these activities. Request for behavior modification denied.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
As a healthcare professional and gamer, i 100% agree that gaming cab be addicting. I suffered from gaming addiction for many years, essentially since i was 18. Im 37 now and i still get addicted to games. I can control it better than before, but many hours i should have been studying, i was gaming.
Even now, i feel horrible if i game too much. When im addicted, ill play like 40+ hours a week on top of my 60+ hour a week job and a wife and kid.
For example, in my days off from work, i end up going into work so i dont waste my time playing video games.
When bad things happen in my life i wall myself off and play video games to forget about the world. I had a patient die on me in september and spent the next month playing path of exile just so i wouldnt think about it.
Overall, video gaming is an addiction for me, i can barely control it honestly. I also think im the addiction type because i only play 1 game at a time, if im switching between games, the truth is, i dont like either.
Any thing in life can be addicting and i think gaming is a legit venue to get addicted to.
But gaming is just a gateway, the real issue is the disorders one has. I'm guessing you have some sort of anxiety disorder as anyone with that will shut themselves off from the world. You don't have to game, you could stare at a wall, lock yourself up in a room, drive around for hours by yourself, read a book, sleep all the time. My wife has this, she will shut herself away and literally do nothing but lay in bed, it's just to be alone or away from whatever situation.
That's just an example but the root of the issue is disorders and behavior as a core. What you actually gravitate to is not the addiction but the process to calm said disorder or behavior.
So no I don't agree that games are an addiction just as much as I don't agree over reading is an addiction. It doesn't fuel anything. So why is gambling an addiction? It fuels those behaviors and makes it much more aggressive.
I can see your thought process, but for me and video games, i think it gives a constant stream of neurotransmitters to my reward centers. When i played path of exile for a month after my patient died, i still went to work and still hung out with family, i just spent 100% of my free time on the game.
I use gamea as something to make me feel better, i do likely have an anxiety component, but i think the way gaming is addictive is an issue by myself. If i drive around for hours or read a book, it isnt enough mental stimulation to not think about what is going on.
Also, many addictions have a physical physiological dependence, like alcohol, caffeine, drugs, but i think anything that affects your reward centers can be addicting like gaming, facebook, porn, etc.
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What's your point? Anything can become an addiction. Like with anything else though it's not some incurable disease. I quit smoking after several years cold-turkey.....no reason you can't do the same with anything else. It's a simple matter of actually WANTING to do it.
I dont know how anyone older feels about today (30+ yr olds I guess?), but times feels a lot more 'sensitive' than they used to be. You can't even call someone 'sir' or 'ma'am' without offending because you 'assumed' their gender. It just feels like things can go from 0 to 60 much faster now than in the past. This article could go even more broad and say that about 75% of developed world populations are addicted to mobile devices since you see even little children with them now. Especially with technology trying to advance to a more inclusive space with self-driving cars, almost all personal information being in some digital space, etc. Matrix might be real....
I dont know how anyone older feels about today (30+ yr olds I guess?), but times feels a lot more 'sensitive' than they used to be. You can't even call someone 'sir' or 'ma'am' without offending because you 'assumed' their gender. It just feels like things can go from 0 to 60 much faster now than in the past. This article could go even more broad and say that about 75% of developed world populations are addicted to mobile devices since you see even little children with them now. Especially with technology trying to advance to a more inclusive space with self-driving cars, almost all personal information being in some digital space, etc. Matrix might be real....
Fact is that there are socially acceptable - even encouraged - addictive behaviors and scapegoated ones. Workaholism as discussed earlier in this thread is one of those and so is excessive consumerism because the economy depends on them.
The term addiction is also one that doesn't differentiate between addiction to substances that can turn almost anyone into addicts and addictive personality disorders that cause some people to get addicted to almost anything conceivable.
There's hypocrisy inherent in labeling those obsessive activities that either rub us the wrong way or we don't see the point of as addictions while giving very similar behavior for activities we think highly of or enjoy ourselves a pass.
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More evidence of the perversion of medicine and science. where we now turn everything into what the social engineers (marxists) want. Gaming is currently considered the hotbed for "toxic masculinity" and "white privilege" and "something to do with earning and deserving to thrive based on your efforts in a game" so we have to destroy it, meanwhile having a penis and pretending your a girl isnt a mental disorder. This is what the left does and they have gotten quite good at it. They redefine/, twist, and manipulate everything to push their agenda, hence things like "micro aggression" created to control people who disagree with them and even use violence to do so, new definitions of racism "only white people can be racist because we decided only oppressors can be racist oh and btw we also decided all white people are oppressors regardless if you realize it or not you are doing it because bazinga "micro aggression".
Its pretty amazing to be honest how they have perverted most of western society and a vocal minority is now in control. Hell they even call non white people "minorities" when we know as a matter of fact its actually white people who are one of the actual minorities of this planet a fact that is undisputed well until they refine minority because you cant be a minority if you are the oppressor lulz.
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They dont understand my addiction!
Claims about the addictiveness in video games have never stood up to scrutiny.
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Bill wasn't one of the most stand up guys I ever met because he was a workaholic. He was one of the most stand up guys I ever met because of his ethics and his character. A man who was well known, respected and missed in the community.
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Cocaine addiction comes along with a directly related physical impact, but any addiction strong enough to compromise one's judgment will eventually take a harsh toll regardless, as it will inevitably negatively impact not only the individual but those that surround them.
They also shouldn't be contrived, either. Just because a person may devote a great deal of time to something they enjoy doesn't mean it is a matter of addiction. Only when a preoccupation reaches a state where it can be harmful to that person or those dependent on them is it perhaps a matter of addiction that need be addressed.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
But gaming is just a gateway, the real issue is the disorders one has. I'm guessing you have some sort of anxiety disorder as anyone with that will shut themselves off from the world. You don't have to game, you could stare at a wall, lock yourself up in a room, drive around for hours by yourself, read a book, sleep all the time. My wife has this, she will shut herself away and literally do nothing but lay in bed, it's just to be alone or away from whatever situation.
That's just an example but the root of the issue is disorders and behavior as a core. What you actually gravitate to is not the addiction but the process to calm said disorder or behavior.
So no I don't agree that games are an addiction just as much as I don't agree over reading is an addiction. It doesn't fuel anything. So why is gambling an addiction? It fuels those behaviors and makes it much more aggressive.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
I use gamea as something to make me feel better, i do likely have an anxiety component, but i think the way gaming is addictive is an issue by myself. If i drive around for hours or read a book, it isnt enough mental stimulation to not think about what is going on.
Also, many addictions have a physical physiological dependence, like alcohol, caffeine, drugs, but i think anything that affects your reward centers can be addicting like gaming, facebook, porn, etc.
Thanks for listening
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The term addiction is also one that doesn't differentiate between addiction to substances that can turn almost anyone into addicts and addictive personality disorders that cause some people to get addicted to almost anything conceivable.
There's hypocrisy inherent in labeling those obsessive activities that either rub us the wrong way or we don't see the point of as addictions while giving very similar behavior for activities we think highly of or enjoy ourselves a pass.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Its pretty amazing to be honest how they have perverted most of western society and a vocal minority is now in control. Hell they even call non white people "minorities" when we know as a matter of fact its actually white people who are one of the actual minorities of this planet a fact that is undisputed well until they refine minority because you cant be a minority if you are the oppressor lulz.