The downvotes on the reveal trailer are currently at 107k.. the upvotes are 4.1k.
They have completely messed up. Announcing a crappy mobile game when all the fans have been starved of a proper Diablo for years is ridiculous.
While I agree - lets consider this from Blizzards perspective.
In their current portfolio - mobile titles are lacking - so from a business perspective of growing users in all markets - a mobile Diablo game makes complete sense.
I think its easy to forget that billion dollar companies focus on growing their earnings and wealth first and foremost even if it means upsetting some portion of their former fanbase.
I mean the pissed off fanbase is a really minor thing - as as soon as Blizzard announces Diablo4 - all will be instantly forgotten.
So it's a win-win for Blizzard, win with a mobile game - have a minor upset of the players and then get them all back with a proper D4 game.
You're right.. but it's still messed up.
But.. if Diablo 4 isn't exactly what people want it's going to suffer worse than vanilla Diablo 3 did in terms of backlash. It's an extra reason for fans to be pissed off and going into it with a bad attitude. Diablo 4 needs to be the dog's bollocks now, there will be no wriggle room.
Plus, we all know they are working on Diablo 4. They could have shown something like Beth did with Elder Scrolls Mobile and Elder Scrolls 6. They could have, and should have, avoided it.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
While I agree with most of you. To be fair Blizzard did tell us not to expect epic news. So maybe we should blame ourselves for getting our expectations up. Just playing devil's advocate here.
Well, I didn't expect anything and I'm still appalled by this year's Blizzcon. No WC 1 and 2 remasters(they really, but REALLY need it) - instead have a cheap ass WC 3 remaster(a game which mostly didn't even need it!), no Diablo 1 and 2 remasters(both could use it, but Warcrafts should take precedence imo) - instead have a shitty mobile crap...the only good thing was that badass McCree short(and that's only because he is inherently badass). Everything else was just kinda...shit and even sometimes a dumpster fire. Well then!
For me I'm super excited about remastered WC3 (Reforged). So the others can wait for now. Blizzard said they considered WC1 & 2 but didn't think they would be fun today gameplay wise.
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The downvotes on the reveal trailer are currently at 107k.. the upvotes are 4.1k.
They have completely messed up. Announcing a crappy mobile game when all the fans have been starved of a proper Diablo for years is ridiculous.
While I agree - lets consider this from Blizzards perspective.
In their current portfolio - mobile titles are lacking - so from a business perspective of growing users in all markets - a mobile Diablo game makes complete sense.
I think its easy to forget that billion dollar companies focus on growing their earnings and wealth first and foremost even if it means upsetting some portion of their former fanbase.
I mean the pissed off fanbase is a really minor thing - as as soon as Blizzard announces Diablo4 - all will be instantly forgotten.
So it's a win-win for Blizzard, win with a mobile game - have a minor upset of the players and then get them all back with a proper D4 game.
This is sadly true. Blizzard is basically doing to the same thing to Diablo as EA did to Command & Conquer. The weird thing to me though is that it seems like almost any of their other games would have been a better fit for mobile than Diablo. It would've made more since to me to make a PC & mobile version of the WC3 remaster even than a Diablo mobile game.
The Diablo community has always been treated worse by Blizz than any of the other game communities in their lineup imo. I have always called it Blizz's red-headed step child & today just reaffirms that.
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Of course they have the talent. It’s asinine to think otherwise. Is there something that will actually appease the fans though? That’s the real question.
im not even a Diablo fan. I NEVER like the games I’m just astounded by the level of hate the gaming community has in general and people just love to hop on the hate wagon all the time. It’s craziness.
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The downvotes on the reveal trailer are currently at 107k.. the upvotes are 4.1k.
They have completely messed up. Announcing a crappy mobile game when all the fans have been starved of a proper Diablo for years is ridiculous.
While I agree - lets consider this from Blizzards perspective.
In their current portfolio - mobile titles are lacking - so from a business perspective of growing users in all markets - a mobile Diablo game makes complete sense.
I think its easy to forget that billion dollar companies focus on growing their earnings and wealth first and foremost even if it means upsetting some portion of their former fanbase.
I mean the pissed off fanbase is a really minor thing - as as soon as Blizzard announces Diablo4 - all will be instantly forgotten.
So it's a win-win for Blizzard, win with a mobile game - have a minor upset of the players and then get them all back with a proper D4 game.
if diab-lol 4 is being developed ( I seriously doubt it at this point ) how hard would it be to mention that this mobile game is just to "hold over fans till D4" much like how bethesda did with their first model offering announcement fallout shelter.
there is a right way and a wrong way to expand a franchise to new platforms, what happened at Blizzcon definitely wasn't the right way. . .
it seems 2018 is the year of big game companies pissing off their fans, like they all had a secret meeting and bet who could generate the most rage. . .mind bogglingly stoopid.
Of course they have the talent. It’s asinine to think otherwise. Is there something that will actually appease the fans though? That’s the real question.
im not even a Diablo fan. I NEVER like the games I’m just astounded by the level of hate the gaming community has in general and people just love to hop on the hate wagon all the time. It’s craziness.
Don't worry If anyone says anything ugly Blizz will delete the comments, just like they are doing on the Diablo Immortal Cinematic Reveal Youtube page. Most of the comments aren't even being rude, but stating they don't like the idea of Diablo mobile. Those hateful bastards! The nerve!
Too bad Blizz can't delete that dislike count though huh?
The downvotes on the reveal trailer are currently at 107k.. the upvotes are 4.1k.
They have completely messed up. Announcing a crappy mobile game when all the fans have been starved of a proper Diablo for years is ridiculous.
While I agree - lets consider this from Blizzards perspective.
In their current portfolio - mobile titles are lacking - so from a business perspective of growing users in all markets - a mobile Diablo game makes complete sense.
I think its easy to forget that billion dollar companies focus on growing their earnings and wealth first and foremost even if it means upsetting some portion of their former fanbase.
I mean the pissed off fanbase is a really minor thing - as as soon as Blizzard announces Diablo4 - all will be instantly forgotten.
So it's a win-win for Blizzard, win with a mobile game - have a minor upset of the players and then get them all back with a proper D4 game.
Don't disagree that money will be driving force behind this decision.
The name on the company these days is Activision Blizzard. AB tried to get into mobile - didn't make much headway. AB bought King - much fanfare but the reality has been a steady decline in "user engagement". So I see this as an Activision Blizzard portfolio "lack".
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Well, nobody here is saying their move does not make sense @DMKano We are saying we dislike it.
They have their right to opt to pull some candy crush fiscal year carnival move...
And we have the right to dislike it because as fans of their IPs it does not take our desires in consideration.
I don't get your point in trying to see their side. We know their side: Money. Edit to add: We just expected more from them. Because we like them. Such cheap move is something below them.
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Current playing: Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - Shadowbringers; EvE Online "There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation. The former is wisdom, the latter is fear."Izaro Phrecius, Holy Emperor of the Eternal Empire, Last of Royal Phrecius Family.
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Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)
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When WOTC was ending we had this mega uber post in their official forums called "The Fall of the Titan" in which a player described in very well put details why blizzard was going downhill in his eyes.
Well... I hope said player that got his post deleted is alive and well to see this.
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Adding insult to injury, it's just a re-skinned version of Crusaders of Light. They couldn't even be bothered to develop something original.
You know what would've been a cool mobile game? A port of Diablo 1. It's simple enough to work on mobile, and us Diablo fans would have a 'remaster' we could play on the go. Win-win. But no, we don't even rank that in Blizzard's eyes.
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Adding insult to injury, it's just a re-skinned version of Crusaders of Light. They couldn't even be bothered to develop something original.
You know what would've been a cool mobile game? A port of Diablo 1. It's simple enough to work on mobile, and us Diablo fans would have a 'remaster' we could play on the go. Win-win. But no, we don't even rank that in Blizzard's eyes.
They (Blizzard) didn't even develop it, apparently. It was outsourced. Which, you know, fair enough. I wouldn't want Blizzard staff wasted on this shit. But we are owed more than this after 4 years of borderline maintenance mode.
I personally think their only mistake was releasing it at a convention instead of just releasing it on the app stores and advertising.
People went there and bought the ticket to see, on the big stages, a meaningful reveal.
yeah, like you and most others said before in this thread: this should be a side note ad that rotates on their client or something. Not a blizzcon material for sure.
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That journalist is out of touch. I'd call it an example of the Golden Rule in action. The fans were disrespectful because Blizzard showed them the ultimate disrespect. Customers don't enjoy contempt.
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But.. if Diablo 4 isn't exactly what people want it's going to suffer worse than vanilla Diablo 3 did in terms of backlash. It's an extra reason for fans to be pissed off and going into it with a bad attitude. Diablo 4 needs to be the dog's bollocks now, there will be no wriggle room.
Plus, we all know they are working on Diablo 4. They could have shown something like Beth did with Elder Scrolls Mobile and Elder Scrolls 6. They could have, and should have, avoided it.
Current playing: Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - Shadowbringers; EvE Online
"There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation. The former is wisdom, the latter is fear." Izaro Phrecius, Holy Emperor of the Eternal Empire, Last of Royal Phrecius Family.
The Diablo community has always been treated worse by Blizz than any of the other game communities in their lineup imo. I have always called it Blizz's red-headed step child & today just reaffirms that.
Current playing: Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - Shadowbringers; EvE Online
"There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation. The former is wisdom, the latter is fear." Izaro Phrecius, Holy Emperor of the Eternal Empire, Last of Royal Phrecius Family.
im not even a Diablo fan. I NEVER like the games I’m just astounded by the level of hate the gaming community has in general and people just love to hop on the hate wagon all the time. It’s craziness.
- Ungood
there is a right way and a wrong way to expand a franchise to new platforms, what happened at Blizzcon definitely wasn't the right way. . .
it seems 2018 is the year of big game companies pissing off their fans, like they all had a secret meeting and bet who could generate the most rage. . .mind bogglingly stoopid.
Too bad Blizz can't delete that dislike count though huh?
The name on the company these days is Activision Blizzard. AB tried to get into mobile - didn't make much headway. AB bought King - much fanfare but the reality has been a steady decline in "user engagement". So I see this as an Activision Blizzard portfolio "lack".
We are saying we dislike it.
They have their right to opt to pull some candy crush fiscal year carnival move...
And we have the right to dislike it because as fans of their IPs it does not take our desires in consideration.
I don't get your point in trying to see their side. We know their side: Money. Edit to add: We just expected more from them. Because we like them. Such cheap move is something below them.
Current playing: Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - Shadowbringers; EvE Online
"There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation. The former is wisdom, the latter is fear." Izaro Phrecius, Holy Emperor of the Eternal Empire, Last of Royal Phrecius Family.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
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"There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation. The former is wisdom, the latter is fear." Izaro Phrecius, Holy Emperor of the Eternal Empire, Last of Royal Phrecius Family.
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)
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Well... I hope said player that got his post deleted is alive and well to see this.
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"There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation. The former is wisdom, the latter is fear." Izaro Phrecius, Holy Emperor of the Eternal Empire, Last of Royal Phrecius Family.
You know what would've been a cool mobile game? A port of Diablo 1. It's simple enough to work on mobile, and us Diablo fans would have a 'remaster' we could play on the go. Win-win. But no, we don't even rank that in Blizzard's eyes.
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD.
#IStandWithVic
- Ungood
yeah, like you and most others said before in this thread: this should be a side note ad that rotates on their client or something. Not a blizzcon material for sure.
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"There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation. The former is wisdom, the latter is fear." Izaro Phrecius, Holy Emperor of the Eternal Empire, Last of Royal Phrecius Family.
Maybe they are trying to kill off their franchises. EA style.
But that be ACTIVISION-blizzard, not actually blizzard blizzard
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ActivisionBlizz: Hold mah beer!