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In News You Didn't Expect Today - Hellgate: London Is Returning to Steam - MMORPG.com News

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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member RarePosts: 2,761
    I wonder its will be story wise like the first one, or it will be like during the f2p time?
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  • immoralthangimmoralthang Member UncommonPosts: 221
    This is great news. I hope it makes enough money to bring back multiplayer.
  • koldmiserkoldmiser Member UncommonPosts: 155
    I got into Hellgate just as it was fading off. I'm excited to see what they do with this.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,746
    Katagiri said:
    Stop games necromancy!
    I partly agree, how different is this from Bless and all the others coming back? I think if we get a better game it would be worth it (never played the original mind), otherwise its just milking players for cash.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,657
    Scot said:
    Katagiri said:
    Stop games necromancy!
    I partly agree, how different is this from Bless and all the others coming back? I think if we get a better game it would be worth it (never played the original mind), otherwise its just milking players for cash.
    If you don't like a game don't buy it. I don't understand why you both feel the need to make sure someone else can't play what you don't like. How fucked up is that? I have the entire SSI Gold Box D&D collection on GoG because CDProjekt thankfully didn't listen to people like you two. The great part being, I don't have to get milked if I think it's a bad deal.

    I don't mind paying for an older game I like. Someone had to spend time getting it to work on modern hardware without me having to jump through ridiculous hoops and ancient 3rd party hack patches. That's worth something to me.

    If Bless or another game can't find its footing and wants to keep plugging along until it finds it niche or dies then so be it. If Hello Games had abandoned No Man's Sky instead of persisting then I wouldn't have my awesome game. It would just be a historic debacle where people gave up. I'm glad they didn't give up Interloper.

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  • JadeX666JadeX666 Member UncommonPosts: 1
    edited October 2018
    No need, it is already back: https://london2038.com/
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,910
    Torval said:
    Scot said:
    Katagiri said:
    Stop games necromancy!
    I partly agree, how different is this from Bless and all the others coming back? I think if we get a better game it would be worth it (never played the original mind), otherwise its just milking players for cash.
    If you don't like a game don't buy it. I don't understand why you both feel the need to make sure someone else can't play what you don't like. How fucked up is that? I have the entire SSI Gold Box D&D collection on GoG because CDProjekt thankfully didn't listen to people like you two. The great part being, I don't have to get milked if I think it's a bad deal.

    I don't mind paying for an older game I like. Someone had to spend time getting it to work on modern hardware without me having to jump through ridiculous hoops and ancient 3rd party hack patches. That's worth something to me.

    If Bless or another game can't find its footing and wants to keep plugging along until it finds it niche or dies then so be it. If Hello Games had abandoned No Man's Sky instead of persisting then I wouldn't have my awesome game. It would just be a historic debacle where people gave up. I'm glad they didn't give up Interloper.

    What a world we live in where people are so quick to give up after failure.
    What can I say, "I'm the product of a fucked up generation...I can't even seem to find a sunset to walk off into." The Drifter, Bunraku

    Apparently neither can some games properly be sunsetted and left to fade away.

    Think of it as thinning the herd,  gaming will be stronger for it.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited October 2018
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    Scot said:
    Katagiri said:
    Stop games necromancy!
    I partly agree, how different is this from Bless and all the others coming back? I think if we get a better game it would be worth it (never played the original mind), otherwise its just milking players for cash.
    If you don't like a game don't buy it. I don't understand why you both feel the need to make sure someone else can't play what you don't like. How fucked up is that? I have the entire SSI Gold Box D&D collection on GoG because CDProjekt thankfully didn't listen to people like you two. The great part being, I don't have to get milked if I think it's a bad deal.

    I don't mind paying for an older game I like. Someone had to spend time getting it to work on modern hardware without me having to jump through ridiculous hoops and ancient 3rd party hack patches. That's worth something to me.

    If Bless or another game can't find its footing and wants to keep plugging along until it finds it niche or dies then so be it. If Hello Games had abandoned No Man's Sky instead of persisting then I wouldn't have my awesome game. It would just be a historic debacle where people gave up. I'm glad they didn't give up Interloper.

    What a world we live in where people are so quick to give up after failure.
    What can I say, "I'm the product of a fucked up generation...I can't even seem to find a sunset to walk off into." The Drifter, Bunraku

    Apparently neither can some games properly be sunsetted and left to fade away.

    Think of it as thinning the herd,  gaming will be stronger for it.
    I find it hard to disagree, specifically with @Superman0X's recent posts detailing what I suspected all along: part of the reason the genre stagnated was because investors started finding there wasn't enough "free gamers" to build a new, profitable fanbase.

    The base seems all caught up spending time and money on mediocre efforts that have limped along.  We whine about no new titles or innovation, but can't let go of our decades old avatars in our decades old games that were never really that great to begin with (judging by critical/user reviews at the games' respective releases).

    Look at other genres, and you see that even the most popular franchises expect gamers to get bored with a title within a few years.  I don't advocate for release schemes like NBA 2k, but no other genre drags it's old boots along for so long that they have no room for a new pair.
    Scot

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,871
    Scot said:
    Katagiri said:
    Stop games necromancy!
    I partly agree, how different is this from Bless and all the others coming back? I think if we get a better game it would be worth it (never played the original mind), otherwise its just milking players for cash.
    well Hellgate is nothing like Bless, nothing like it all , It more like Diablo in Post Apoc horror setting ..

     Its actually alot of fun .. Its also single player ...

    And to be honest we dont have a game quite like it right now ...
    Torvalkruler
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,746
    edited October 2018
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    Scot said:
    Katagiri said:
    Stop games necromancy!
    I partly agree, how different is this from Bless and all the others coming back? I think if we get a better game it would be worth it (never played the original mind), otherwise its just milking players for cash.
    If you don't like a game don't buy it. I don't understand why you both feel the need to make sure someone else can't play what you don't like. How fucked up is that? I have the entire SSI Gold Box D&D collection on GoG because CDProjekt thankfully didn't listen to people like you two. The great part being, I don't have to get milked if I think it's a bad deal.

    I don't mind paying for an older game I like. Someone had to spend time getting it to work on modern hardware without me having to jump through ridiculous hoops and ancient 3rd party hack patches. That's worth something to me.

    If Bless or another game can't find its footing and wants to keep plugging along until it finds it niche or dies then so be it. If Hello Games had abandoned No Man's Sky instead of persisting then I wouldn't have my awesome game. It would just be a historic debacle where people gave up. I'm glad they didn't give up Interloper.

    What a world we live in where people are so quick to give up after failure.
    What can I say, "I'm the product of a fucked up generation...I can't even seem to find a sunset to walk off into." The Drifter, Bunraku

    Apparently neither can some games properly be sunsetted and left to fade away.

    Think of it as thinning the herd,  gaming will be stronger for it.
    I find it hard to disagree, specifically with @Superman0X's recent posts detailing what I suspected all along: part of the reason the genre stagnated was because investors started finding there wasn't enough "free gamers" to build a new, profitable fanbase.

    The base seems all caught up spending time and money on mediocre efforts that have limped along.  We whine about no new titles or innovation, but can't let go of our decades old avatars in our decades old games that were never really that great to begin with (judging by critical/user reviews at the games' respective releases).

    Look at other genres, and you see that even the most popular franchises expect gamers to get bored with a title within a few years.  I don't advocate for release schemes like NBA 2k, but no other genre drags it's old boots along for so long that they have no room for a new pair.
    I can understand how nostalgia makes these old games coming back seem good, but unless the add more it is asking money for old rope. Gaming moved into a strategy over a decade ago where it mainly repeats tried and trusted staples like NBA 2K or AC. Now it seems to want to bring back old hits (or not so hits) because its a lot cheaper than making something new; notice I did not use the word original there, just something new.

    But if they make something more of it I am all for it, Torval's example of No Man's Sky is just the sort of game that is becoming more than it once was, that's worth the reroll in my eyes. But I do have to ask one thing, is it easier or harder to add to NMS which was said to have no gameplay when it launched, or add to Hellgate London which did have a lot of gameplay in place already? One seems to take more work, but the other may come with a lot of built in issues.
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  • GladDogGladDog Member RarePosts: 976
    I was one of the first 20 players in the alpha for this game.  When they said they were going to beta we all went, "WUH?"  It wasn't ready.  Then when it went Open Beta all of us testers when "WUH?"  It wasn't ready.  Then when they said it was going to release in two weeks?  "ACK ACK ACK - ACK ACK, ACK!"  No where near ready.

    Even at that I enjoyed the heck out of the game, although it was ultra buggy.  If they fixed all (or even most) of the bugs I would love to play it again!
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  • RobbgobbRobbgobb Member UncommonPosts: 661
    I am not interested in this as a single player game. The game was great to play but not really a setting I enjoy. I liked the mechanics and running across other players. I hope everyone who wants it will enjoy it greatly.
  • krulerkruler Member UncommonPosts: 589
    I had the first one, and enjoyed it a lot, but was bagged a great deal by many and yes some of the complaints were more than justified.


    So was interested when the F2P version raised from the grave years later and tried it, after that experience I had to have a good long hard talk with myself about rose tinted glasses and distorted memories.


    I hope this does a lot better on its second resurrection, and will try if it still exists in 6 months time and not before just to see if the game gets the final headshot and dies for good this time.

  • Prime_DirectivePrime_Directive Member RarePosts: 1,303
    wonder if they will honor my code ?
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,829
    edited October 2018
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    Scot said:
    Katagiri said:
    Stop games necromancy!
    I partly agree, how different is this from Bless and all the others coming back? I think if we get a better game it would be worth it (never played the original mind), otherwise its just milking players for cash.
    If you don't like a game don't buy it. I don't understand why you both feel the need to make sure someone else can't play what you don't like. How fucked up is that? I have the entire SSI Gold Box D&D collection on GoG because CDProjekt thankfully didn't listen to people like you two. The great part being, I don't have to get milked if I think it's a bad deal.

    I don't mind paying for an older game I like. Someone had to spend time getting it to work on modern hardware without me having to jump through ridiculous hoops and ancient 3rd party hack patches. That's worth something to me.

    If Bless or another game can't find its footing and wants to keep plugging along until it finds it niche or dies then so be it. If Hello Games had abandoned No Man's Sky instead of persisting then I wouldn't have my awesome game. It would just be a historic debacle where people gave up. I'm glad they didn't give up Interloper.

    What a world we live in where people are so quick to give up after failure.
    What can I say, "I'm the product of a fucked up generation...I can't even seem to find a sunset to walk off into." The Drifter, Bunraku

    Apparently neither can some games properly be sunsetted and left to fade away.

    Think of it as thinning the herd,  gaming will be stronger for it.
    Except when a game makes a successful comeback then your logic goes out the window.  FFXIV would like a word.....
    Post edited by Kajidourden on
  • HarikenHariken Member RarePosts: 2,351
    I just want to know how much they plan to charge for this game today. Its not a new game at all. If anyone hears anything post it. What would you guys say you would pay for this knowing its history.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,823
    Hariken said:
    I just want to know how much they plan to charge for this game today. Its not a new game at all. If anyone hears anything post it. What would you guys say you would pay for this knowing its history.
    I wouldn't mind a 15 bucks price if all functions as the original did, without multiplayer I guess. Which is unfortunate, I would pay about 20 if that was included. Its a pretty fun game and like posted somewhere above, there really isn't anything like it.

    /Cheers,
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  • cmacqcmacq Member UncommonPosts: 233
    Well if history tells you anything this will be F2P with a terrible cash shop model. On it's previous incarnation (which was the 2nd time) T3 just gouged people. You couldn't even buy stash space they rented it to you. Despite all that we had a lot fun playing but it's the multiplayer that made it work. Can't see it gaining much traction as a single player.
  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,513
    Guess they named this game quite well.  It just keeps coming back from the gates of Hell.

    How many times has this series died and respawned now?

    I guess we should be impressed by how much the creators care about this franchise that they keep trying...
  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 362
    Well like everyone I'm surprised too. As a coincidence I recently reinstalled the original and I'm playing it again. Was surprised the Windows 10 didn't have any problem with the install or running it so far. :)
    Torval
  • DhampirDhampir Member UncommonPosts: 63

    berlight said:

    Bring back tabula rasa :'(



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  • TokkenTokken Member RarePosts: 2,188
    Let the dead rest. happy halloween!
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    Bring back City of Heroes!
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    Is today April Fool's day?
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  • jazneojazneo Member UncommonPosts: 43
    let it die all ready
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