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Black Desert Online Russian Player Data Lost as Pearl Abyss Takes Over Publication - MMORPG.com

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edited October 15 in News & Features Discussion

imageBlack Desert Online Russian Player Data Lost as Pearl Abyss Takes Over Publication - MMORPG.com

Black Desert Online in Russia is no longer published by GameNet, the company that has held the reins for the past three years. Publication will be assumed by Pearl Abyss in CiS nations. However, after negotiations fell through regarding the migration of account databases, it appears that players will have to start from scratch on the newly created Pearl Abyss servers.

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  • BitterClingerBitterClinger Member UncommonPosts: 422
    Wow! Is there a Circle of Hell that spawns these game publishers? I know Pearl Abyss is pretty bad, but GameNet takes the cake when it comes to screwing the players.
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  • nfacatriusnfacatrius Member UncommonPosts: 35
    edited October 15
    That's what you get if you have an greedy Developer.

    If Pearl Abyss would actually honor their players instead of trying to milk them, then they would renew the status quo with that Publisher so that noone looses their money/time.

    I can bet that PA will not refund any single pearl item but refers to say buy it again! And obviously blames the publisher who just fulfilled their contract. After all it was PA who did not want to renew it.
    Post edited by nfacatrius on
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  • NorseGodNorseGod Member RarePosts: 1,470
    Yikes!
    Come home, North Man.
  • achmedeachmede Member UncommonPosts: 63
    Daaamn, poor Russian players.
    All those endless hours lost...
  • WaanWaan Member UncommonPosts: 70
    Out of all games...
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member EpicPosts: 5,262
    edited October 15
    Given how grindy the game seems to be, this does suck for the CiS. I personally wouldn't trust PA after that tbh since we dont know what an "excessively high price" even means to them. This is also something to keep in mind when other developers outsource their publishing rights to other publishers for different regions.
    Post edited by Albatroes on
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  • liffixliffix Member UncommonPosts: 2
    Hi!

    Guys just a question does this mean there will be no more IP block, for example for Baltic countries like Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia?

    Pearl Abyss can lift that off, no?

    Thanks.
    GdemamiRolanStorm
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,734
    How incredibly convenient, lol !

    "So sorry, you'll have pay us all over again, because the evil GameNet won't give us your player data for free !"
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  • nfacatriusnfacatrius Member UncommonPosts: 35
    Pearl Abyss could lift the ip block sure.. but they rather make an own localized version for that area so they can make you different kind of whales.
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 19,160
    Yep this what happens when the talks fall through and the publisher is the only one with the access to the player account database. 

    Gamenet - oh you want to take publishing right from us - ok, we keep the player data


    that's exactly what happened,  Pearl Abyss only option is to start from scratch 
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 19,160
    achmede said:
    Daaamn, poor Russian players.
    All those endless hours lost...
    Dont forget about all the money lost
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  • stebo104stebo104 Member UncommonPosts: 6
    Having all Russian players start from scratch? Well hope this new company enjoys empty servers, as noone will play them.
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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 5,672
    Shit man this is bad! Feel sorry for them.
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  • thunderCthunderC Member EpicPosts: 1,943
    I would just quit, Iv never been one for Alts in any MMO and the idea of "starting over" is not appealing at all especially in a game like this. Sounds like gaming in Russia is a chore....
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  • ZhenoxZhenox Member UncommonPosts: 58
    liffix said:
    Hi!

    Guys just a question does this mean there will be no more IP block, for example for Baltic countries like Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia?

    Pearl Abyss can lift that off, no?

    Thanks.
    I'm from lithuania, i tried playing BDO when it was free on steam, so i guess it's not blocked. And btw, it's shit game. 
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  • LeiloniLeiloni Member RarePosts: 1,253


    That's what you get if you have an greedy Developer.



    If Pearl Abyss would actually honor their players instead of trying to milk them, then they would renew the status quo with that Publisher so that noone looses their money/time.



    I can bet that PA will not refund any single pearl item but refers to say buy it again! And obviously blames the publisher who just fulfilled their contract.

    After all it was PA who did not want to renew it.



    Well considering PA couldn't acquire the database, they don't have the player financial data to even tell them who purchased anything. So they couldn't offer refunds even if they wanted to. GameNet holds everything and until they're willing to make a reasonable deal, PA is forced to start from scratch.
    laxie
  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,084
    Damn, and I thought a 24 hour rollback in an MMO was fail.
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  • Dr_ShivinskiDr_Shivinski Member UncommonPosts: 310


    That's what you get if you have an greedy Developer.



    If Pearl Abyss would actually honor their players instead of trying to milk them, then they would renew the status quo with that Publisher so that noone looses their money/time.



    I can bet that PA will not refund any single pearl item but refers to say buy it again! And obviously blames the publisher who just fulfilled their contract.

    After all it was PA who did not want to renew it.



    Did you actually read any of the article? PA doesn't have the information to restore any CiS player's items, or refund them. That data is held by GameNet.

    PA is well within their rights to cut out the middle man between them and their CiS customers. GameNet doesn't want to play ball and would rather fuck their customers over than help make the transition as smooth as possible. Trying to use player data to extort more money out of PA is about one the lowest things I've seen in gaming.
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  • UngoodUngood Member RarePosts: 1,530
    I do not have a dog in this fight but.. 

    We all know PA could very easy give all the accounts affected something like 100 dollars worth of "pearls" as huge good-will gesture and to apologize for any inconvenience they are going though due to this mess, and it would not cost them a cent, as it's all digital vapor anyway,  maybe even toss them all a custom cosmetic crown, like some kind of "We survived The Transfer" type of deal. And this would build sold rock faith in PA to stand by their players and be there for them under any and all circumstances. 

    But they won't, and we all know this, they would rather fight with GameNet while leaving their players high and dry, as I said before, Game Companies do not respect their players investments and then we wonder why communities within games are getting worse.
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  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 30,088

    That's what you get if you have an greedy Developer.

    If Pearl Abyss would actually honor their players instead of trying to milk them, then they would renew the status quo with that Publisher so that noone looses their money/time.

    I can bet that PA will not refund any single pearl item but refers to say buy it again! And obviously blames the publisher who just fulfilled their contract.

    After all it was PA who did not want to renew it.
    Did you actually read any of the article? PA doesn't have the information to restore any CiS player's items, or refund them. That data is held by GameNet.

    PA is well within their rights to cut out the middle man between them and their CiS customers. GameNet doesn't want to play ball and would rather fuck their customers over than help make the transition as smooth as possible. Trying to use player data to extort more money out of PA is about one the lowest things I've seen in gaming.
    Pearl Abyss even mentioned that GameNet was using the playerbase as "weapons" to effectively "force" them to buy the translated version they'd created. How true that is remains to be seen. It may well end up in court.
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  • PhryPhry Member EpicPosts: 9,881
    So basically Gamenet believe that the players data belongs to them and Pearl Abyss should pay for it, to which Pearl Abyss replied by giving the middle finger, don't really see either one as being particularly 'Player Friendly' though perhaps its not so surprising that Gamenet would be holding the players data for ransom, given that Gamenets reputation isn't really all that good in the first place.
  • HashbrickHashbrick Member UncommonPosts: 1,412

    Ungood said:

    I do not have a dog in this fight but.. 

    We all know PA could very easy give all the accounts affected something like 100 dollars worth of "pearls" as huge good-will gesture and to apologize for any inconvenience they are going though due to this mess, and it would not cost them a cent, as it's all digital vapor anyway,  maybe even toss them all a custom cosmetic crown, like some kind of "We survived The Transfer" type of deal. And this would build sold rock faith in PA to stand by their players and be there for them under any and all circumstances. 

    But they won't, and we all know this, they would rather fight with GameNet while leaving their players high and dry, as I said before, Game Companies do not respect their players investments and then we wonder why communities within games are getting worse.



    You tell me how they would give anything to anybody with no data. They don't have customer data.

    GameNet works like the Russian Government, by extortion. They extorted their player base and now the license holder.

    Pearl Abyss is simply cutting ties to a terrible company, said company is proving how bad they really are.
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  • UngoodUngood Member RarePosts: 1,530
    Hashbrick said:

    Ungood said:

    I do not have a dog in this fight but.. 

    We all know PA could very easy give all the accounts affected something like 100 dollars worth of "pearls" as huge good-will gesture and to apologize for any inconvenience they are going though due to this mess, and it would not cost them a cent, as it's all digital vapor anyway,  maybe even toss them all a custom cosmetic crown, like some kind of "We survived The Transfer" type of deal. And this would build sold rock faith in PA to stand by their players and be there for them under any and all circumstances. 

    But they won't, and we all know this, they would rather fight with GameNet while leaving their players high and dry, as I said before, Game Companies do not respect their players investments and then we wonder why communities within games are getting worse.



    You tell me how they would give anything to anybody with no data. They don't have customer data.

    GameNet works like the Russian Government, by extortion. They extorted their player base and now the license holder.

    Pearl Abyss is simply cutting ties to a terrible company, said company is proving how bad they really are.
    They could very easy allow for any New Account made in the Region that GamerNet (ISP tracked) controlled to be given some free rewards for "Returning To Pear Abyss" with the promise that the rewards would be transferred over to their Main account (at the players choice) once the situation was resolved.

    In the Intern the new accounts would get 100 dollars in Pearls to buy stuff, maybe a pile (20) exp pots, to allow them to catch up, and a special "Welcome back to PA Pet" that looked like a Bright Bouncy Pearl.

    Once things settled, transfer over Progress to their main account (Again, ISP/CC Tracked) at the players request, they would receive +EXP/+gold/+loot potions for every level their "New Account" earned, and transfer over "Base Materials" for all gear, as well as the 100 dollars in Pearls and the Special Pet.. and the "Temp Account" would get deleted.

    If they were worried about abuse, they could lock the accounts so they cannot trade any Store Items, Pears. or other "rewards" to other players.

    Really it's not hard to make people feel like "You got their back" if you want to make people feel like you got their back.

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  • laxielaxie Member RarePosts: 1,004
    edited October 15
    What a shit show. And since they don't have any of the data, there is no way they can reimburse people.

    I doubt handing out an equal compensation to everyone will make people happy. Imagine spending $100 on a game and then everyone gets a $100 compensation. You'd still be upset regardless in my opinion.

    They would have to hand out a crazy high compensation, so that most of the spenders would feel they're getting a lot more than they spent. You'd still be upsetting the high spenders though, who might represent large proportion of the overall income.

    Is there any numbers on the spending distribution? How much money is coming from the top 5% of the spenders?
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  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,366
    $100 doesn't make up all the time put in to  leveling character, gearing it up, etc.   

    This isn't a good look for GameNet, or PA.  I know I would be really unlikely to play any game hosted by either one in the future.
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