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Do you think MMO developers dislike player housing?
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Just curious, but could there perhaps be a collective dislike of Player Housing in the MMO Developer Community? If so, whats some things that may have developers look at such a feature in a negative way?
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One way to do it is have urban development. 10s of thousands of either plots or premade houses in cities. Teleporters to get you to regions of the urban sprawl. This way abandon houses look like ordinary homes and less of an eye sore.
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If included it has to provide some sort of functional utility, strictly cosmetic housing can be left out from my perspective.
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I loved SWG housing and I agree that empty plots can be an eyesore but I'd like housing done in the following format.
- Certain places cannot have houses (roads, NPC towns, cities, etc)
- Certain places can only have epic housing (meaning takes a lot to earn)
- Certain places can have housing just for clans/guilds/whatever
- Houses require upkeep and maintenance.
- Mobs attack houses so a thrall/defense system is required.
- The game would require either subscription to own a house or cash shop item to own a house. The cost is going to be monthly.
- If you leave game or don't pay, your house gets packaged up and leaves its footsprint, if you come back, you can place your house with all of its items in a new location.
- You can pay forward so your house can be up for months. Requires both cash shop/regular subscription and in-game currency.
- Based on the items in your house, you get small bonuses.
- 10 items = +1% health, 20 items = +2% health etc
- Certain epic items give more bonuses
- Anyone who enters your house can get these bonuses as long as the owner is there and gives it to them.
The game should be ridiculously large via the map and it would be great to going exploring in a massive jungle and after an hour of exploring you run into a player made cottage
That's my idea for housing.
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Housing doesn't work in themepark MMOs
Either housing is too useful and everyone uses it, making dead cities (EQ2 for example is a prime example)
its useless and has no point in being in the game (which tbh is LOTRO despite me liking some parts of it). Even more useless is BDO housing.
It works far better in sandbox MMOs
In UO housing is very useful, but because its a sandbox MMO you still are enticed to go into major cities, if no other because you can have property in a city and with easy access to player merchants.
And like EQ2...no one will ever see your house because its listed amongst 100s of other houses in the same exact spot. Whats the point of a house if no one is gonna see it? Waste of time decorating or doing anything.
UO tons of people will visit your house if close to a city, or if in a rural area still get people to visit. And if really out there in the wilderness, player merchants will bring people to visit your house if only to buy whatever you are selling
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If a game has it and there's some utility to be had from it, I play along with it for the utility. But decorating is the farthest thing from my mind when I fire up an MMO.
I play MMOs to build characters and test my builds against other players or mobs. I get crafting when it's an integral part of building up a character but that's about it for me.
And I feel the same way about fishing
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Housing that's used only as decoration holds little interest for me.
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Also most importantly, no cash shop!
This isn't a signature, you just think it is.
If you act like a dumbass consumer,they will gladly walk all over you.
HEY,our customers don't seem to care what we give them,so let's give them even less in the next expansion.
Oh hey,let's cut this expansion short,we don't need to add anymore,they will buy it all the same.
Let's make more money,let's add a cash shop,oh yeah good idea,those suckers will surely spend money.
Housing if done with some moderate effort can open up a lot of new game play,crafting,events etc etc.Geesh i can simply point back to FFXIV,Square didn't want to have an auction house anymore,these devs don't want large databases,they want to sell you as simple and cost effective game as they can.
I don't think the average gamer realizes that all these systems require many different servers to handle the loads and computing,the more work there is to do the more systems/servers.
Devs would gladly just sell you an ARPG or a MOBA or a Fortnite/PUBG,all the cheapest crappiest game designs that cost them VERY little to make and to operate.
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If they work, it's one thing, but, I see players just go rampant nerd rage obsessed over these things, and in games like GW2, for example, mounts were added, but they were not needed, so they felt like this added thing that was put in to placate players, and because of that, I loved how much players cried over the mount the cost of mount skins. They really deserved no better.
I feel the same way with player housing, if it works for the game, it is one thing, but when it really is not a part of the game, or feels like they put in it in to fill a check box, I just want to slap gamers that made it so that developers feel compelled to put this features in, no matter how disjunctive or asinine they may be to the rest of the game.
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean other players that enjoy it are stupid. For example, I personally don't enjoy raiding.
You spend hours re-running a 40-man raid to get good equipment to re-run the next tier raid to get better equipment to re-run the next tier raid to get better equipment. It's literally, a hamster on a wheel.
But I do appreciate it that other people do like this type of game play. I just choose not to do what I don't like to do. Also, why criticize people for what they enjoy in a game?
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