Intel 9900K and 9700K will Be Soldered

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• Ridelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,146

  September 2018

  In all fairness - pretty much every die will have the warranty voided if delidded; it is a rather violent mechanical process.
  
  It is telling to see they are going back to it now after so many generations of cheapening out.
  
  As far as imperfect and messy... I once had a GF who said the same thing about chicken wings. It was just more wings for me.

  
• Torval Member LegendaryPosts: 20,639

  September 2018

  It could imply a few things.

  
  

  - Intel wants to more heavily discourage custom OC modding. This is one small, very inconvenient, way to do so. Why would they want to do that only on their K series HEDT CPUs?

  
  

  - These are going to run hot and solered IHS will provide a more consistent cooler part out of the box.

  
  

  - Non-soldered IHS is acceptable in lower end parts but has a higher failure rate in more extreme configurations. This is stretching it because an enthusiast will more likely build custom cooling than anyone else. This supports the idea that they want to stick with out of the box preconfigured vendor OC solutions.
  

  

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• Quizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 22,677

  September 2018

  I think it means that they're feeling more competitive pressure from AMD than they were a few years ago.  Next year, AMD will almost certainly be a process node ahead for the first time ever.  That means that Intel can't cut corners to save money without losing sales.

  
• Ridelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,146

  September 2018 edited September 2018

  Torval said:

  It could imply a few things.

  
  

  - Intel wants to more heavily discourage custom OC modding. This is one small, very inconvenient, way to do so. Why would they want to do that only on their K series HEDT CPUs?

  
  

  - These are going to run hot and solered IHS will provide a more consistent cooler part out of the box.

  
  

  - Non-soldered IHS is acceptable in lower end parts but has a higher failure rate in more extreme configurations. This is stretching it because an enthusiast will more likely build custom cooling than anyone else. This supports the idea that they want to stick with out of the box preconfigured vendor OC solutions.
  

  I tend to agree with Quiz, this is more likely just a result of more direct competition from AMD, it's something Intel has done in the past, and can easily return to without significant cost. It doesn't mean a lot to a layperson, but to an enthusiast who is building out a HEDT they will know the difference and it makes for a cheap marketing point. But you to make some good points and point out some possibilities.
  
  Also, in the FWIW department - you can still delid a soldered IHS, and it will still have better cooling that with the IHS installed. It's just that the difference between lidded and delidded is a lot smaller with solder than with TIM, so it's not nearly as "worth the risk" to delid on soldered IHSs.
  
  For the acronymally-challenged, since I just realized in this one post alone the number of acronyms is approaching a staggering number (and I've been writing grants lately where I've had to be very conscious of using acronyms without definition):
  
  FWIW - For What It's Worth
  IHS - Integrated Heat Spreader
  TIM - Thermal Interface Material
  AMD - Advanced Micro Devices
  HEDT - High End Desk Top
  CPU - Central Processing Unit
  OC - Overclock