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Looks like 2019 will be a bit of a race

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    Kyleran said:
    Kyleran said:
    In fact, I just had a donut right now.


    OK you are freaking me out now. I am again having a donut while reading this. And I only had just these 2 donuts in more than a year. 

    We are officially donut brothers now. 
    All over the world gamers were inexplicably eating donuts at higher than normal rates.

    In related news Dunkin Donuts stock soared defying analysts predictions.

    ;)
    I personally prefer Krispy Kreme!  But Dunkin Donuts will do on a pinch. ;)
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,563
    Kyleran said:
    Kyleran said:
    In fact, I just had a donut right now.


    OK you are freaking me out now. I am again having a donut while reading this. And I only had just these 2 donuts in more than a year. 

    We are officially donut brothers now. 
    All over the world gamers were inexplicably eating donuts at higher than normal rates.

    In related news Dunkin Donuts stock soared defying analysts predictions.

    ;)
    I personally prefer Krispy Kreme!  But Dunkin Donuts will do on a pinch. ;)
    Chocolate covered glazed donuts are my favorite at Krispy Kreme....but I didn't think its name would be as familar.


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  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    Donuts are far more interesting than all of the games in the poll.

    However, I'd place my "fun bet" on CU.

    Kyleran said:

    I listed them in alphabetical order so there could be no accusations of poll bias.
    Your parenthetical remarks tell a different story.  ;)
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  • meddyckmeddyck Member UncommonPosts: 1,279
    I don't follow the rest of them closely, but I feel pretty confident CU won't be launching in 2019. It might not even be in Beta 3 by the end of 2019.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,563
    Donuts are far more interesting than all of the games in the poll.

    However, I'd place my "fun bet" on CU.

    Kyleran said:

    I listed them in alphabetical order so there could be no accusations of poll bias.
    Your parenthetical remarks tell a different story.  ;)
    Well.....no matter how I created the poll some would have considered it biased in one fashion or another.

    I decided instead to go full monty and embrace it instead, more fun that way.
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  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 2,972
    Fun fact: I've never had a Krispy Kreme donut in my life...
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  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,424
    edited August 2018
    A solid poll, @Kyleran.  If I had a donut, I'd eat it and vote that way.  Since I don't have a donut (and have a surplus of medical professionals who would be happy to tell me in annoying voices how much I don't need that donut), I voted for WoW Classic.

    First off, I *know* that WoW actually existed at one time and was a quality product.  Blizzard has the resources to pull off resurrection of an old version of their flagship game.  Since it's already been done, there are unlikely to be any of those last minute FUBAR moments that MMORPGs seem to be prone to -- WoW's already had it's teething pains.

    The competitors would be wise to learn a lesson from EQ2.  Take your time, being first to the market won't preserve your customer base once the WoW juggernaut gets rolling.  If I were in charge of any of these other games-in-development, I'd seriously consider keeping 10-12 months between my launch and WoW Classic's launch, even if it means delaying my own product.  Maybe I'm giving Blizzard too much credit, but then again, someone with a cushy job might just find themselves without a job if they try to compete head-to-head with WoW.  Let players finish WoW Classic, then launch.
      


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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    Forgrimm said:
    Fun fact: I've never had a Krispy Kreme donut in my life...
    Da fuq??  I'm not sure how international the brand is...  You in Europe?

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,210
    Forgrimm said:
    Fun fact: I've never had a Krispy Kreme donut in my life...
    I think we have different understandings of what fun means..
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  • OldSchoolGamerOldSchoolGamer Member UncommonPosts: 229
    edited August 2018
    Relampago said:
    I backed CU and Crowfall.  I actually think CF will softlaunch first.
    This.  The "Soft launch" was already suppose to happen.  The devs are expecting it this year.  They want the subscription revenue.  They are behind CS in crowdfunding by over $180 million and just announced they are at the $20 million mark.  World of Warcraft was created on a $30 million budget, but that was nearly 20 years ago when they started.  Obviously, things are much more expensive today in the development world.  Crowfall will win the launch race.

    Why is WoW Classic even on the list?  They don't even have their dev team hired yet.
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 2,972
    Forgrimm said:
    Fun fact: I've never had a Krispy Kreme donut in my life...
    Da fuq??  I'm not sure how international the brand is...  You in Europe?
    NJ, I think there's only 2 in the entire state.
    MadFrenchie
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,563
    Relampago said:
    I backed CU and Crowfall.  I actually think CF will softlaunch first.
    This.  The "Soft launch" was already suppose to happen.  The devs are expecting it this year.  They want the subscription revenue.  They are behind CS in crowdfunding by over $180 million and just announced they are at the $20 million mark.  World of Warcraft was created on a $30 million budget, but that was nearly 20 years ago when they started.  Obviously, things are much more expensive today in the development world.  Crowfall will win the launch race.

    Why is WoW Classic even on the list?  They don't even have their dev team hired yet.
    Thrown in just for fun, have no idea where they stand on the project.

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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 2,691
    Kyleran said:
    Relampago said:
    I backed CU and Crowfall.  I actually think CF will softlaunch first.
    This.  The "Soft launch" was already suppose to happen.  The devs are expecting it this year.  They want the subscription revenue.  They are behind CS in crowdfunding by over $180 million and just announced they are at the $20 million mark.  World of Warcraft was created on a $30 million budget, but that was nearly 20 years ago when they started.  Obviously, things are much more expensive today in the development world.  Crowfall will win the launch race.

    Why is WoW Classic even on the list?  They don't even have their dev team hired yet.
    Thrown in just for fun, have no idea where they stand on the project.
    Inevitable consequence of making a list is answering why there are certain things on the list and why certain other things aren't. People ask why Moses kept on wondering through the desert. I bet the term "WTF" was invented during that period. 
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,875
    Other, I'm sure some early access MMO will popup on Steam from out of nowhere. :smile:
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  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,424
    Other, I'm sure some early access MMO will popup on Steam from out of nowhere. :smile:
    I'm not quite certain that MMO developers can keep their mouths shut long enough to have realistically created most of an MMO.  My guess is that games releasing in 2019 will have had to have started in 2016 or earlier.

    But you're probably right, one will appear on Steam and it will definitely be out of nowhere.



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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 5,585
    Kyleran said:
    In fact, I just had a donut right now.


    Where's the "I'M JEALOUS!" button? Would an "awesome" click be the same?
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,563
    edited August 2018
    Kyleran said:
    Relampago said:
    I backed CU and Crowfall.  I actually think CF will softlaunch first.
    This.  The "Soft launch" was already suppose to happen.  The devs are expecting it this year.  They want the subscription revenue.  They are behind CS in crowdfunding by over $180 million and just announced they are at the $20 million mark.  World of Warcraft was created on a $30 million budget, but that was nearly 20 years ago when they started.  Obviously, things are much more expensive today in the development world.  Crowfall will win the launch race.

    Why is WoW Classic even on the list?  They don't even have their dev team hired yet.
    Thrown in just for fun, have no idea where they stand on the project.
    Inevitable consequence of making a list is answering why there are certain things on the list and why certain other things aren't. People ask why Moses kept on wondering through the desert. I bet the term "WTF" was invented during that period. 
    Naw, I think he came up with WTF when after being delivered from Egypt, following pillars of smoke/fire, parting of the Red Sea, destruction of Egyptian army, and receiving mana from heaven to eat he comes down off the mountain with the two tablets only to find the people (lead by his brother) worshipping a golden calf.  

    Clearly a WTF moment if there ever was one.

    Their reply? ...you were away too long, its been 40 days.....(after 400 years of enslavement)

    Likely when the 2nd WTF in history was uttered.

    ;)


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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 6,174
    Kyleran said:

    Clearly a WTF moment if there ever was one.




    Or maybe C'MON MAN!
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 2,691
    Kyleran said:
    Kyleran said:
    Relampago said:
    I backed CU and Crowfall.  I actually think CF will softlaunch first.
    This.  The "Soft launch" was already suppose to happen.  The devs are expecting it this year.  They want the subscription revenue.  They are behind CS in crowdfunding by over $180 million and just announced they are at the $20 million mark.  World of Warcraft was created on a $30 million budget, but that was nearly 20 years ago when they started.  Obviously, things are much more expensive today in the development world.  Crowfall will win the launch race.

    Why is WoW Classic even on the list?  They don't even have their dev team hired yet.
    Thrown in just for fun, have no idea where they stand on the project.
    Inevitable consequence of making a list is answering why there are certain things on the list and why certain other things aren't. People ask why Moses kept on wondering through the desert. I bet the term "WTF" was invented during that period. 
    Naw, I think he came up with WTF when after being delivered from Egypt, following pillars of smoke/fire, parting of the Red Sea, destruction of Egyptian army, and receiving mana from heaven to eat he comes down off the mountain with the two tablets only to find the people (lead by his brother) worshipping a golden calf.  

    Clearly a WTF moment if there ever was one.

    Their reply? ...you were away too long, its been 40 days.....(after 400 years of enslavement)

    Likely when the 2nd WTF in history was uttered.

    ;)


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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 21,272
    Mendel said:
    Other, I'm sure some early access MMO will popup on Steam from out of nowhere. :smile:
    I'm not quite certain that MMO developers can keep their mouths shut long enough to have realistically created most of an MMO.  My guess is that games releasing in 2019 will have had to have started in 2016 or earlier.

    But you're probably right, one will appear on Steam and it will definitely be out of nowhere.
    You say that as though MMO developers have to create most of an MMO before they can release it in early access.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,563
    Mendel said:
    Other, I'm sure some early access MMO will popup on Steam from out of nowhere. :smile:
    I'm not quite certain that MMO developers can keep their mouths shut long enough to have realistically created most of an MMO.  My guess is that games releasing in 2019 will have had to have started in 2016 or earlier.

    But you're probably right, one will appear on Steam and it will definitely be out of nowhere.



    Amazon seems to be doing a pretty good job at keeping a lid on whatever games they are developing.  Blizzard's probably got some new titles in the works of which we know very little.


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  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 5,928
    I think 2019 will be like a race where everyone trips on something, and later on they compete in who gives the most positive interview on how their stumble counts as great work towards actually finishing next year.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,563
    Vrika said:
    I think 2019 will be like a race where everyone trips on something, and later on they compete in who gives the most positive interview on how their stumble counts as great work towards actually finishing next year.
    Unfortunately you very well could be correct.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,210
    Vrika said:
    I think 2019 will be like a race where everyone trips on something, and later on they compete in who gives the most positive interview on how their stumble counts as great work towards actually finishing next year.
    That was 2018, 2017... parts of 2016...

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 12,203
    edited August 2018
    Quizzical said:
    Mendel said:
    Other, I'm sure some early access MMO will popup on Steam from out of nowhere. :smile:
    I'm not quite certain that MMO developers can keep their mouths shut long enough to have realistically created most of an MMO.  My guess is that games releasing in 2019 will have had to have started in 2016 or earlier.

    But you're probably right, one will appear on Steam and it will definitely be out of nowhere.
    You say that as though MMO developers have to create most of an MMO before they can release it in early access.
    My concern is that that gaming studios are looking at what indies are doing and thinking, "why don't we have some of that"? They already are to an extent, we had the cash shop open for sales before the game is launched at least a decade ago. But this more formalised paying while still in a state of development may end up being the norm. Every dodgy revenue practice ever thought up starts in one game and ends up in every game going, so no reason to think this won't happen.

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