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Groundbreaking AI is in!!!
kikoodutroa8
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My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/skyrim-anime-overhaul
Thats why games shouldn't take that long to develop, since we can only assume so much in favor of the company before feeling a bit naive.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
If FPS portion of the game matters, then this matters. It's something CIG should be able to get fixed eventually, but it's that much more delay until they get FPS AI that works.
Star Citizen AI is simulated, this as, NPCs are given their own traits that determine needs/wants and you have something like the Sims where they'll just do their thing, the MMO standard is pretty much what ArenaNet did with GW2 that keeps it all under a scripted neverending loop.
So it's not about how complex AI gets to develop it's just that it's a multiplayer game and AI is being simulated on servers, not your PC.
That AI is not the FPS AI, the AI SC focus on rn is dogfighting and now the FPS AI, but what is shown there is just the scenery "the sims-like" AI that roams landing areas, collisions tend to mess up the AI, I've seen players moving one AI NPC from the space station out into space lol
Allowing collisions between players and AI is just not a good idea, from messing up their pathfinding to AI getting you stuck is lol
Player enters doorway, NPC has his back to player.
Player shoots at NPC
NPC fires gun in the direction he is facing (opposite direction of the player), slowly swivels 180 degrees while continuously firing his gun at everything like some damn Green Army Man parody sketch.
6 years, $200 million, 500 staff, so much braggadocio and that's where they are at...
The trick is: A stormtrooper AI that doesn't look or feel like one.
You do understand there are people showing videos on You Tube that can EASILY make an animated character within a few hours,maybe a day ?This game is into the YEARS of development,there is no excuse for ANYONE claiming to be a professional and can't get the characters into at least an acceptable state,it doesn't take 3/4/5 years.
This guy for example is doing a walkthrough of animating his model.There are of course engine/character properties,such as what type of property a model or item might have such as being a solid or semi solid or have full collision etc etc.
No matter how much effort is put into a model,it doesn't take or shouldn't take more than a week at tops.
So continually using an EXCUSE like "insert testing phase" is not acceptable from me.There are divisions..teams,it is not an entire project that all works at the exact same pace,the modelling guys will do their work on their time schedule,they are not afforded the luxury of taking years to get it right.
The ONLY part of game design that takes a very long time is in the overall design structure,tweaking the stats/numbers to get it right for both npc's and real players.Even a map that takes a lot longer than a player model/s should only take around 1-3 months depending on how in depth the map is or how much stuff is going on and how many assets had to be designed for that map.
Long winded point,too easy to make excuses,making a good product is what separates fact from fiction and until it is AAA it is ONLY fiction.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
See by yourself: https://youtu.be/2A3ZvSq9Ueo?t=3m12s
^^ They can't get characters into one acceptable state? lol A quest giver not only acceptable but higher quality than the standard for quest givers in MMO's around, from the animation to the facial expression, to proper syncing with the voice-acting, high care for details and the vibe of the character itself.
I sure want to see you do that in a week tops lol This mindless rants of yours are weirdly entertaining to read xD
Educational video moment:
Strange. None of these animation experts claim they can do a full game animation for a AAA game in "a week tops". Only you say that.
That tells me a lot.
Have fun
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
The "3 weeks top" armchair animator is the cherry on top lol
It might possibly be better than Colonial Marines but that's not exactly something to get excited about
So when you consider the whole picture of AI it's rather complex, and that is still a fraction because SC whole system is to be heavily AI driven, so AI traders and AI providing and answering service beacon to players, makes so AI will have to face great expansion over the time upon this first implementations.
See the AI bugs we see here is something other MMO's fix with scripted paths on a loop where the NPCs pretty much clip through you or just play one animation on colliding with a player, that method is superficial but at the same time mitigates the chances of bugs because no actual need to rely on simulation.
Especially because SQ42 on the mix, AI will be continuing being a major focus, so I wouldn't worry much about that, it's not a "if" because it's a "must" or the game ain't no gonna work.
Those wandering NPCs seem to not be any priority for now, looking at roadmap it's all about Flight AI Behaviors, improvements and combat styles, and a ton of FPS AI work.
When Guild Wars 2 released, Jesus I remember tons of events and event chains and even story didn't work, people stuck unable to progress on their story for weeks and months because the AI would just stall in place, or just wouldn't spawn, took them months to fix the worse of it, and that was one released title.
But bloody hell, how dares SC to have buggy AI on the first implementations of entirely new systems? >.>
Is it just me or buggy released games face less backlash than buggy unreleased ones? hmm