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I like the houseing in ESO but.... $150 for a house?

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  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member LegendaryPosts: 3,584
    Iselin said:
    Yep its this kind of garbage, along with the loot boxes, that made me decide to walk away from this game forever.
    You “walked away” from a game because of two things which are not required to play the game. 

    Heh...
    Any straw can break the camel's back. I have myself been playing a lot less recently because I'm pissed at how they implemented jewelry crafting but most importantly, their arrogance in refusing to engage the many players who have a problem with it.

    If you're on the fence or otherwise just primed to leave any way, any large or small thing can tip you over the edge. It doesn't need to be an NGE crisis.
    And many of the in game activities I find fun are now locked away behind a cash shop pay wall instead of being gained through actual game play. I play games to play games, no to try to be the fastest credit card in the west.
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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
    I'm tempted to jump back go Guild Wars 2, just to show them my support for supporting their playerbase. I'm just can't get over the fact that I couldn't find a single class it felt right to play.

    15.000 crowns in ESO is ... 10 months of ESO subscription. I haven't bothered with a single house yet, so I don't think I will bother with the likes of that beast. I haven't even made up my mind what to buy with the 5.000 I already have (got me some character customisation options, no banker or merchant yet. No crates either).
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 12,216
    edited July 2018
    Tiller said:
    Scot said:
    Sorry but Tiller is the poster who did the What the Hell Am I Missing Here thread? If you don't like ESO and you listed about eight reasons last time why are you supposedly now considering $150 on a house?
    You didn't keep up with that thread then, I've been subbed to ESO  for a few months now and just renewed for 3 more. It has it's issues but I've found things to do and achievements to be gotten.

    As for the mansion, a lot of people are disappointed in the fact that it's not Psijic architecture like Ceporah Tower and huge to try and furnish; it's a copy of the Alinor palace. I'm actually considering the Alinor Townhouse myself since it's close to crafting, banker, writs ect, and one of the few houses that isn't too big to fill with the allowed furniture allotment.


    Phry said:
    kitarad said:
    That is not a house , that is a hotel, well not enough rooms for a real hotel but that is not a comfortable place. It's far too big.

    You know while the outside was lovely the sad thing is you cannot look out the windows. The thing I loved about both Black Desert Online and Everquest 2 housing was that when you look out a window the representation outside approximated what you might expect to see.

    I mean sure it would be great to decorate this place but this is not what I would call a home. It's too vast and would require a lot of money to decorate which I suppose was the intention all along.

    Sorry but the housing in Everquest 2 is still one of the very best even after all these years as far as decorating and homeliness is concerned.
    If you think those are good houses, then you would have loved the housing in SWG, it was probably one of many really good features that SWG had. :/
    SWG had one of the best housing systems, this comes pretty close with the building blocks that allow you to customize and build your own things with walls, stairs and small trinkets. We had no windows to the outside; I think they added windowed buildings later in the NGE.

    Fair enough then you are playing, but your beef (or some players) is about the architecture of the house? That does seem a little picky.

    But the price is way too high, which makes me think of my golden rule. If you see new gameplay which is good in a MMO, you may see it again in another MMO, some time, some where. If you see a new dodgy business practice in a MMO, you will see it again in the next MMO you play and the next and hear that virtually every MMO is now doing something like that.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,582
    Scot said:
    Tiller said:
    Scot said:
    Sorry but Tiller is the poster who did the What the Hell Am I Missing Here thread? If you don't like ESO and you listed about eight reasons last time why are you supposedly now considering $150 on a house?
    You didn't keep up with that thread then, I've been subbed to ESO  for a few months now and just renewed for 3 more. It has it's issues but I've found things to do and achievements to be gotten.

    As for the mansion, a lot of people are disappointed in the fact that it's not Psijic architecture like Ceporah Tower and huge to try and furnish; it's a copy of the Alinor palace. I'm actually considering the Alinor Townhouse myself since it's close to crafting, banker, writs ect, and one of the few houses that isn't too big to fill with the allowed furniture allotment.


    Phry said:
    kitarad said:
    That is not a house , that is a hotel, well not enough rooms for a real hotel but that is not a comfortable place. It's far too big.

    You know while the outside was lovely the sad thing is you cannot look out the windows. The thing I loved about both Black Desert Online and Everquest 2 housing was that when you look out a window the representation outside approximated what you might expect to see.

    I mean sure it would be great to decorate this place but this is not what I would call a home. It's too vast and would require a lot of money to decorate which I suppose was the intention all along.

    Sorry but the housing in Everquest 2 is still one of the very best even after all these years as far as decorating and homeliness is concerned.
    If you think those are good houses, then you would have loved the housing in SWG, it was probably one of many really good features that SWG had. :/
    SWG had one of the best housing systems, this comes pretty close with the building blocks that allow you to customize and build your own things with walls, stairs and small trinkets. We had no windows to the outside; I think they added windowed buildings later in the NGE.

    Fair enough then you are playing, but your beef (or some players) is about the architecture of the house? That does seem a little picky.

    But the price is way too high, which makes me think of my golden rule. If you see new gameplay which is good in a MMO, you may see it again in another MMO, some time, some where. If you see a new dodgy business practice in a MMO, you will see it again in the next MMO you play and the next and hear that virtually every MMO is now doing something like that.
    My golden rule,  "blame the addict, not the pusher."

    If these "dodgy" business practices were totally ignored by the player community, they would not continue to be propagated.

    Every time a gamer buys into something, be it $150 houses, loot crates, early access, or buggy, incomplete releases, it makes things worse for the rest of us who would like to see such practices discontinued. 

    But hey, "it's their money" or they don't care, they are "having fun" after all.

    For the rest of us, a bit more of what we enjoy from gaming dies, often never to return.

    Yeah, it's "bitter Thursday," but no worries,  Friday's coming.  ;)


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  • AzmodeusAzmodeus Member UncommonPosts: 266
    I would pay $150 for a better combat button in ESO.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,582
    Azmodeus said:
    I would pay $150 for a better combat button in ESO.
    Shhhh, dont give Devs any ideas like that. Imagine selling a cash shop item for better game mechanics.

    For only $150 you can turn off combat animation locking or buy reduced global cool down timers.  (I might have already seen that last one somewhere)

    Ugh.

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  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    Kyleran said:

    If these "dodgy" business practices were totally ignored by the player community, they would not continue to be propagated.
    Which shows you just how many people use said practices.

    Gaming has evolved. Some people will evolve with it, some won't. Its simply NOT going back to the way it was before, no matter how many indie studios claim they're rediscovering their "roots". It's just another scam to get your money, like loot boxes or cash shops. Different tactic, same outcome.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 12,216
    edited July 2018
    Kyleran said:

    If these "dodgy" business practices were totally ignored by the player community, they would not continue to be propagated.
    Which shows you just how many people use said practices.

    Gaming has evolved. Some people will evolve with it, some won't. Its simply NOT going back to the way it was before, no matter how many indie studios claim they're rediscovering their "roots". It's just another scam to get your money, like loot boxes or cash shops. Different tactic, same outcome.
    Fight backs have occurred, a big question mark has been put over loot boxes, but It may be ten years before they actually leave gaming.

    Also classic servers which are subscription only raise a question we rarely hear about or maybe gaming companies just don't want to hear it? Are people joining those servers because they are classic or subscription only? If the latter is that not saying players will play sub only MMOs?

    But overall you are right, I just think there is some hope that at least some areas when it comes to MMO revenue dodgy practices can be rolled back, particularly gambling.

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  • GutlardGutlard Member RarePosts: 922
    If they introduce items through the cash shop, they should also introduce ways for players to unlock them by meeting in-game requirements/grinding etc... I have a feeling most of us would feel better about some grind as long as it was working toward something we wanted.

    Don't care about the item? Don't buy it & definitely avoid grinding for it, but Devs would also need to make sure that item isn't relevant to gameplay...

    If a house costs enough Crowns for 10 months of subbing, would it be okay if the requirements/grinding took 10 months as well or would players give up by that point?

    I'm always under the illusion that options are king to players. Give us a shit ton of options and we'll choose the way we want to accomplish things based on our play styles and time constraints...

    When LOTRO added the cash shop, we raised hell about it, and then they promised it would only be for cosmetic items. Once it was established and people started using it, maybe even before, they started adding potions and items that did indeed gave others an edge.

    I think Devs need to spend way more time thinking how to implement cash shop items, if cash shops are now part of the landscape... Us vocal peeps seem to all hate cash shops from what I've been reading, for the most part.

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,169
    Yep its this kind of garbage, along with the loot boxes, that made me decide to walk away from this game forever.
    You “walked away” from a game because of two things which are not required to play the game. 

    Heh...
    I did as well, I no longer support this game or company with my time or money. I find their business model insulting.

    I once championed their business model as the best in the industry.
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