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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,163
    SaunZ said:

    lesson #1 - there is ALWAYS somebody on a slower horse.
    Specially when you have specific skills, 3 items of a specific set, of course Retreating Maneuvers, the right

    Gorwe said:
    Why can't there be gear vendors / proper gear rewards?
    Many players agree about vendors/auction house, but it's also what makes all cities feel alive. Just use the Tamriel Trade Center website.

    And you definitely have proper gear rewards, that you can even improve up to legendary without any external help should you want it. That's long term goals. Most of my items are world drops you can get solo and then that I have improved to legendary with my own blacksmith/woodworker/etc...

    I really invite to to do more research about the depth of the game, seems to me that you've only brushed the surface and called it a day. A shame.


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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 8,744
    SaunZ said:

    lesson #1 - there is ALWAYS somebody on a slower horse.
    Specially when you have specific skills, 3 items of a specific set, of course Retreating Maneuvers, the right

    Gorwe said:
    Why can't there be gear vendors / proper gear rewards?
    Many players agree about vendors/auction house, but it's also what makes all cities feel alive. Just use the Tamriel Trade Center website.

    And you definitely have proper gear rewards, that you can even improve up to legendary without any external help should you want it. That's long term goals. Most of my items are world drops you can get solo and then that I have improved to legendary with my own blacksmith/woodworker/etc...

    I really invite to to do more research about the depth of the game, seems to me that you've only brushed the surface and called it a day. A shame.


    I agree, it takes some advancement and time to see the depth of what you can do. Plus lots of achievements to work on to unlock rewards, furnishings ect, which I like. When you think you are done, there is more to do.
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  • HyperpsycrowHyperpsycrow Member UncommonPosts: 674
    I tryed to log in today..i havent bought the summerfest exp...i bought the morrowwind and was still bored..i dont have any goals or objectives..what is there to do in this game when ur well geared and has enough gold for stuff you need...al lmy craft skills are high lvl..im bored in eso..i hate dayli quest stuff
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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,163
    i dont have any goals or objectives
    Well, in ESO, you have tons of objectives but you have to set them for yourself. If your only goal is a higher gearscore, WoW is definitely a better choice.
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  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 472
    i dont have any goals or objectives
    Well, in ESO, you have tons of objectives but you have to set them for yourself. If your only goal is a higher gearscore, WoW is definitely a better choice.


    LOL
  • GanksinatraGanksinatra Member UncommonPosts: 452
    I just don't enjoy the combat. I don't know why. It's not that it's bad, or poorly made. It's just....meh. And since 80% of the game is doing combat, that makes 80% of the game meh.
  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 3,096
    Tiller said:
    I'm having a really hard time liking this game. That's a problem because I want to jump in to the hype of the new expansion, as well as play a bit of the last one I missed. 

    Here are just some of the issues I have



    The combat to me seems absolute shit- I feel like it's just a race to download a red line than actual fun and engaging combat.  For real, water gun balloon race at the county fair is far more exciting and has more tactile feedback then this games combat does. Why is dodging so hard and ridiculous looking? And what the hell is the point of wielding a bow in this game? I feel like I'm shooting nerf arrows.


    Animations are wooden- Between the Stick-in-ass running technique and the fact that my avatar looks pretty unsure of himself when wielding a knife, especially when running with it is a total immersion killer for me. I wanna feel heroic, unlike my RL self.


    Clothing on avatars looks painted on- Seriously, I can't be the only one who notices this. Unless my eyes are missing that third dimension, shit looks pretty flat to me. I blame the game engine, Hero Engine to be exact. I kind of wish they never used it.


    The map- It isn't as horrid as other games I've played, but it's definitely missing details I like seeing in maps, like placement of NPC, POIs with minor details ect. It's like Google Earth Vs Yellow pages map.


    No mini map- The fact that you see others standing around holding horrible maps all the time tells you that there needs to be a mini map built into the game. But-they thought it would be cool and hip to have a compass like in Skyrim. Granted you can use the many mods that are are offered to make things like not having a mini map seem less sucky, still doesn't fix the combat though.


    Stories- Stories are decent, some feel like filler quests with no real point at all.  I will set out to do a quest, listen to 10 minutes of dialog and think, this is going to be a great story adventure. So I set out on what I think is going to be a grand adventure head to the first place.. pick this up, do this, look at that, rescue that person, put out fire ect then run back and the quest giver is like, " here's 2 silver -ok thx bye" Little anticlimactic. So many filler quests like that. Glorified kill 10 rats like with any MMO, but it feels like more of let down  because of the build up compared to other MMOs lol.


    Voice acting- At times I feel the acting is as good as local bar improv night.  Most times you can even recognize the same voice actors in many stories. It's kinda like listening to your uncle Ned telling a story with different voices (if you have an uncle Ned, I don't). It's really hit or miss. I found myself at times wanting to hear the story being told, other times I'm like clicking to get them to shut up.


    The game world-  At times it can be visually stunning, from a distance, then you move up close to some buildings and notice how drab they look with really low quality textures that look as good as a crappy Java game from 15 years ago with no real shadowing. Even with all settings on ulta, nothing looks super impressive. Where's my Ultra? Again, I blame Hero Engine for this.


    Menu navigation-Built for game pads, clunky AF, nuff said.
    -Actually it's not enough, the first item on the menu wants to sell you loot crates, wtf, I can't tell you how many times I accidentally brought out that stupid swindler, maniacally flipping though his card deck like some back-alley NYC card hustler staring at you like he's gonna take you for all you are worth. All I was trying to do was get to something else.


    The UI (or lack of)- This has the worst customization of any MMO I have ever played, and I have played a lot of MMOs. Something as simple as adding pots to your hot bar is major fail.  It should really be as easy as open inventory-drag-drop. But no, you must open inventory, press Q to bring up a radial run you mouse around the radial to find the slot you want, then drag and drop, again built for game pads.


    Bugged quest spawns- This is hella annoying, and it's sad this issues still persist with some of the quests. I like being able to to run from one end of the map to other doing quests along the way, when one is broken it screws up my mapping flow.


    No player market- Not a huge deal, but man I wish I could sell some crap I have cluttering up my inventory to other players who will over pay for it Vs selling it to a fence or turning it to crafting scrap.


    Crafting- Not as as exciting as it could be, and considering how crafting is such a snooze fest for most people in MMOs, that says a lot. 


     To be fair  I want to like this game, I feel like I need to like it; and I feel bad I have so many issues with it.  I will admit to an extent I find myself enjoying it from time to time, though that time is not right now. Maybe  it's because I have other games I would rather be playing, I don't know. Everyone talks up this game so highly, it must be good, or are you all just ignoring the obvious?

    What do you guys like about the game? What Am I missing here?





    Edit: I'm still not ready to give up on this game yet. Beyond some of the issues I have, most have never stopped me from enjoying an MMO before. I'm thinking it might be the class I'm playing that kills the combat for me. I usually like ranged DPS with the ability to finish off melee mobs up close of the move in on me. Thinking some type of caster tank. Does anyone have any advice on what class combinations to play? I've been playing a Nightblade with As/shadow but it just feels lackluster.

    2nd Edit: I am currently giving this game another go, thanks for the feedback.

    So.....you hate everything about it lol. 

    Dude I'm with you. I have picked up this game about 20 times, each time expecting to finally like it. Whatever the hell it is it keeps me coming back to try over and over. More than I can say for other games. Still never sticks for more than a month or two.
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 3,096
    I've been playing since closed Beta. I enjoy the game. Either you like it or you don't, just like any other game on the market.
    But hopefully @OP you feel vindicated now that you've come here and made a post about it and have been consoled by all the other posters who don't like TESO.

    Waaaaah! Someone posted negative thoughts about my game! 

    Seriously dude, the guy was pretty objective. 
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Gorwe said:
    SaunZ said:

    lesson #1 - there is ALWAYS somebody on a slower horse.
    Specially when you have specific skills, 3 items of a specific set, of course Retreating Maneuvers, the right

    Gorwe said:
    Why can't there be gear vendors / proper gear rewards?
    Many players agree about vendors/auction house, but it's also what makes all cities feel alive. Just use the Tamriel Trade Center website.

    And you definitely have proper gear rewards, that you can even improve up to legendary without any external help should you want it. That's long term goals. Most of my items are world drops you can get solo and then that I have improved to legendary with my own blacksmith/woodworker/etc...

    I really invite to to do more research about the depth of the game, seems to me that you've only brushed the surface and called it a day. A shame.


    Perhaps. I just like gearing up part to be as simple as possible. SWTOR's very good when it comes to that. I don't want to do extensive research...I just want to keep it up to date with as few steps as possible. While I might like to research something, the game has to "prove" itself to me first. ESO hasn't. And was a boring, confusing mess in the first ~20 levels. It's up to the game to explain its basic + semi advanced things. ESO doesn't and consequentially, I feel completely lost in it.
    Going to a 3rd party website outside of the game in order to try and do something in the game, thats a fail by any standard. ESO isn't really a bad game, it just lacks the functionality that exists in most other games, in the end you have to balance how much you like the game with whether or not you care all that much about the missing features, there aren't any perfect games out there, so its no different to other games in that you have to weigh up the pro's and cons to decide whether to play or not. :/
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,207
    I just don't enjoy the combat. I don't know why. It's not that it's bad, or poorly made. It's just....meh. And since 80% of the game is doing combat, that makes 80% of the game meh.
    I'd say probably because of the "weaving" mechanic. This is less noticeable in lightning staff builds since you're holding the heavy for a large part of builds. But then again, only having one way to enjoy a game can get old as well.

    My main issue with the game (aside from the no global AH, which I'll complain about until they add it) is that its too much of a casual game, which is what I'm not really after atm. Its still nice to jump in and out of though.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 13,014
    Can someone do a thread about what I am missing with GW2 and BDO? Fed up of this one now.

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  • skadadskadad Member UncommonPosts: 392
    animation cancelling and scaling ruins eso for me. 
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited July 2018
    Albatroes said:
    I just don't enjoy the combat. I don't know why. It's not that it's bad, or poorly made. It's just....meh. And since 80% of the game is doing combat, that makes 80% of the game meh.
    I'd say probably because of the "weaving" mechanic. This is less noticeable in lightning staff builds since you're holding the heavy for a large part of builds. But then again, only having one way to enjoy a game can get old as well.
    That bothers me too.

    The other thing that bothers me is the method by which resources are expended and regenned, which feeds back into weaving/animation cancelling.  I'm just not a huge fan of it.  Then again, I've never been a huge fan of Elder Scrolls combat in general.  They were always worth playing in spite of the combat for me.

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  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    Wow, I can't believe I'm the only one in this thread so far that likes this game.  To each their own I guess.  I come from WoW, so the graphics seem SO much better.  I've not played a lot, and it's not my main MMO, but I like running around, exploring, and doing the quests.  It's serving as my non-social game.  I kinda like doing things on my own in ESO.
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  • Rain_DeathravenRain_Deathraven Member UncommonPosts: 87
    Tiller said:
    I'm having a really hard time liking this game. That's a problem because I want to jump in to the hype of the new expansion, as well as play a bit of the last one I missed. 

    Here are just some of the issues I have



    The combat to me seems absolute shit- I feel like it's just a race to download a red line than actual fun and engaging combat.  For real, water gun balloon race at the county fair is far more exciting and has more tactile feedback then this games combat does. Why is dodging so hard and ridiculous looking? And what the hell is the point of wielding a bow in this game? I feel like I'm shooting nerf arrows.


    Animations are wooden- Between the Stick-in-ass running technique and the fact that my avatar looks pretty unsure of himself when wielding a knife, especially when running with it is a total immersion killer for me. I wanna feel heroic, unlike my RL self.


    Clothing on avatars looks painted on- Seriously, I can't be the only one who notices this. Unless my eyes are missing that third dimension, shit looks pretty flat to me. I blame the game engine, Hero Engine to be exact. I kind of wish they never used it.


    The map- It isn't as horrid as other games I've played, but it's definitely missing details I like seeing in maps, like placement of NPC, POIs with minor details ect. It's like Google Earth Vs Yellow pages map.


    No mini map- The fact that you see others standing around holding horrible maps all the time tells you that there needs to be a mini map built into the game. But-they thought it would be cool and hip to have a compass like in Skyrim. Granted you can use the many mods that are are offered to make things like not having a mini map seem less sucky, still doesn't fix the combat though.


    Stories- Stories are decent, some feel like filler quests with no real point at all.  I will set out to do a quest, listen to 10 minutes of dialog and think, this is going to be a great story adventure. So I set out on what I think is going to be a grand adventure head to the first place.. pick this up, do this, look at that, rescue that person, put out fire ect then run back and the quest giver is like, " here's 2 silver -ok thx bye" Little anticlimactic. So many filler quests like that. Glorified kill 10 rats like with any MMO, but it feels like more of let down  because of the build up compared to other MMOs lol.


    Voice acting- At times I feel the acting is as good as local bar improv night.  Most times you can even recognize the same voice actors in many stories. It's kinda like listening to your uncle Ned telling a story with different voices (if you have an uncle Ned, I don't). It's really hit or miss. I found myself at times wanting to hear the story being told, other times I'm like clicking to get them to shut up.


    The game world-  At times it can be visually stunning, from a distance, then you move up close to some buildings and notice how drab they look with really low quality textures that look as good as a crappy Java game from 15 years ago with no real shadowing. Even with all settings on ulta, nothing looks super impressive. Where's my Ultra? Again, I blame Hero Engine for this.


    Menu navigation-Built for game pads, clunky AF, nuff said.
    -Actually it's not enough, the first item on the menu wants to sell you loot crates, wtf, I can't tell you how many times I accidentally brought out that stupid swindler, maniacally flipping though his card deck like some back-alley NYC card hustler staring at you like he's gonna take you for all you are worth. All I was trying to do was get to something else.


    The UI (or lack of)- This has the worst customization of any MMO I have ever played, and I have played a lot of MMOs. Something as simple as adding pots to your hot bar is major fail.  It should really be as easy as open inventory-drag-drop. But no, you must open inventory, press Q to bring up a radial run you mouse around the radial to find the slot you want, then drag and drop, again built for game pads.


    Bugged quest spawns- This is hella annoying, and it's sad this issues still persist with some of the quests. I like being able to to run from one end of the map to other doing quests along the way, when one is broken it screws up my mapping flow.


    No player market- Not a huge deal, but man I wish I could sell some crap I have cluttering up my inventory to other players who will over pay for it Vs selling it to a fence or turning it to crafting scrap.


    Crafting- Not as as exciting as it could be, and considering how crafting is such a snooze fest for most people in MMOs, that says a lot. 


     To be fair  I want to like this game, I feel like I need to like it; and I feel bad I have so many issues with it.  I will admit to an extent I find myself enjoying it from time to time, though that time is not right now. Maybe  it's because I have other games I would rather be playing, I don't know. Everyone talks up this game so highly, it must be good, or are you all just ignoring the obvious?

    What do you guys like about the game? What Am I missing here?





    Edit: I'm still not ready to give up on this game yet. Beyond some of the issues I have, most have never stopped me from enjoying an MMO before. I'm thinking it might be the class I'm playing that kills the combat for me. I usually like ranged DPS with the ability to finish off melee mobs up close of the move in on me. Thinking some type of caster tank. Does anyone have any advice on what class combinations to play? I've been playing a Nightblade with As/shadow but it just feels lackluster.

    2nd Edit: I am currently giving this game another go, thanks for the feedback.

    Agree with everything you said beside minimap.
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,207
    Scot said:
    Can someone do a thread about what I am missing with GW2 and BDO? Fed up of this one now.
    I'd say with GW2, the gearing process is "artificial." The tiers only increase numerical values like ESO's upgrading system, not really adding anything unique to say a legendary tiered piece compared to an epic aside from just higher numbers. For me, if there's nothing "exclusive" at the top end content outside of vanity, I have no desire to do it more than once.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 13,014
    Albatroes said:
    Scot said:
    Can someone do a thread about what I am missing with GW2 and BDO? Fed up of this one now.
    I'd say with GW2, the gearing process is "artificial." The tiers only increase numerical values like ESO's upgrading system, not really adding anything unique to say a legendary tiered piece compared to an epic aside from just higher numbers. For me, if there's nothing "exclusive" at the top end content outside of vanity, I have no desire to do it more than once.
    For me is was cartoony graphics and the quest system where you did not even have to read the quests.

    BDO has a way of luring you in to thinking its not about P2W, then you find to upgrade weapons and armour costs a fortune and you can sell items you bought to other players for in game gold.

    At least ESO has none of those problems which I feel I rather more central to being a good MMO than what has been mentioned in this thread about ESO.
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  • ZigZagsZigZags Member UncommonPosts: 381
    Much of this is due to the Hero Engine, which, at the time ESO was released, was an outdated engine. By today's standards, I dont even want to think about how bad it would feel.

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  • FinvegaFinvega Member UncommonPosts: 187
    Every time I pick the game back up it pleases me.... for a short while. Then I just find myself not logging on anymore. There is something missing from the game for my tastes, though I can't put my finger on it.
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  • GaendricGaendric Member UncommonPosts: 623
    edited July 2018
    To me the game just didn't feel like an MMORPG. I admit I tried it back a long while ago and it probably improved since then, but first impressions do matter.

    It all felt so chunked up, not like an immersive big world you "live" in but more like the world was a flat backdrop for the tightly authored story pieces you were being fed piece by piece.

    The heavyhanded phasing just made this even worse. 
    But I am just generally not a fan of phasing and instancing, so that's on me.
    I just don't buy the whole "look you changed the world" stuff when it's obviously just a facade shown to me and noone else.
    I have read they removed some of it, so at least they are working to improve these things.

    For now it's just not for me, still a well made game though.

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  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821
    edited July 2018
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 14,310
    Brenelael said:
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

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    We all like some things about games more than other things. For me it has always been the build diversity in ESO that hooked me from day one.

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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,167
    Tiller said:

    For real, water gun balloon race at the county fair is far more exciting and has more tactile feedback then this games combat does. 

    County Fair FTW. 
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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,163
    edited July 2018
    Iselin said:
    Brenelael said:
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

    Bren
    We all like some things about games more than other things. For me it has always been the build diversity in ESO that hooked me from day one.

    I have five different skill sets I use depending on the situation on my nightblade, not to mention the individual skills I swap on the fly. The amount of character customization freedom is only rivaled by games like UO or AC1. It's "be what you want to be" instead of "be what your class is".
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 8,744
    Brenelael said:
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

    Bren
    Yeah I pretty much feel the same way. I made a new character and tried again, now it's pretty much my main MMO.
    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
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