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Producer's Letter Announces Server Consolodation - Bless - MMORPG.com

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  • MadCoderOneMadCoderOne Member UncommonPosts: 208
    forced PVP = f'n stupid and I wont even try it
  • ray12kray12k Member UncommonPosts: 472
    Lol this thread is funny.... Carebears crying about pvp... Pvp mmorpgs/mmos are the biggest money makers(check the data). Most people don't play a game just to prance around in gear and fight brain dead npc's... IMO carebears are killing the genre. 
    MadFrenchieAllerleirauhAeanderShaighAlbatroeswingoodcraftseekerPhryKyleran
  • BrunlinBrunlin Member UncommonPosts: 75
    edited June 2018
      This game inevitable demise, has less to do with its open world pvp, and more to do with it poor optimization, bad code, and poor communication skills by the game company. 

       There is a sizable niche for open world pvp...so im not sure why care-bears complained? You have your games, we would like ours..One day we will get a good Eve-like-but -fantasy-sandbox that isnt pay to win or badly optimized and coded....come on AOC...dont let us down.
    Leiloni

    If at first you don’t succeed, call it version 1.0

  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,211
    Brunlin said:
      This game inevitable demise, has less to do with its open world pvp, and more to do with it poor optimization, bad code, and poor communication skills by the game company. 

       There is a sizable niche for open world pvp...so im not sure why care-bears complained? You have your games, we would like ours..One day we will get a good Eve-like-but -fantasy-sandbox that isnt pay to win or badly optimized and coded....come on AOC...dont let us down.
    I would put my money on CU rather than AoC, if I were you.  Not knocking AoC, but MJ has been a pretty damn open developer for CU and has immense experience to apply, both with things that worked and things that didn't.

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  • SamhaelSamhael Member RarePosts: 1,204
    "Consolodation"
    LOL, from the title. At least the article gets it right.
  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 4,897
    ray12k said:
    Lol this thread is funny.... Carebears crying about pvp... Pvp mmorpgs/mmos are the biggest money makers(check the data). Most people don't play a game just to prance around in gear and fight brain dead npc's... IMO carebears are killing the genre. 
    Which PvP MMORPG are you talking about .The money maker you mentioned and please don't name an MMO but an MMORPG.
    wingoodcraftseeker

  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,262
    Sovrath said:
    cheyane said:
    Open PvP is horrible but hey keep making these games I'm sure it will sink in one day.
    If I go to "The Cheesecake factory and have a piece of cheesecake it's going to be "meh."

    If I go to Denny's and have a piece of their cheesecake it's going to be bad.

    If I go to the supermarket and buy one of the various frozen cheesecakes they are going to range from meh to bad.

    So they should learn and stop making cheesecake!

    Oh wait, I could just go to "Two Little Red Hens" or "Eileens" or Juniors in New York and actually have a good piece of cheesecake.


    If you are going to judge an open pvp game then pick a game that is considered the quintessential great pvp game.

    Open pvp is absolutely fine. In a game that can handle it.

    Great!! Now I want cheesecake!



    Concentrate on enjoying yourself, and not on why I shouldn't enjoy myself.

  • SeriphamSephirothSeriphamSephiroth Member CommonPosts: 2
    In reply to this "Got to love all the haters on here. They had a massive amount of people join quickly so they added new servers now that the Hyde has died and the hard core pvp/pvers left due to it not being all that great the multitude of servers is not needed. Hell look at aion it has 3 servers. And it's still going strong. I think in a little bit if time this MMO will improve if not then there will be private servers eventually. "

    Aion had multiple servers for a longer period of time than bless did. It had 4 servers for the longest stretch (Tiamat, Israphel, Karhun, Seil) and even added a 5th server that lasted for about 2 years (Beritra). Ncsoft only consolidated Aion to 2 servers very recently (It never had 3 at any point in my memory) Bless is going down hill FAST. There is really no comparison between Bless and Aion. Aion is even getting massive re-vamps at the moment.
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,146
    Chaserz said:
    Now Suzie needs to consolidate her spell checkers. ;-)
    conso-lol-dation

    Thats how I read it, its hard not to laugh Bless and neowiz
  • xion12121xion12121 Member UncommonPosts: 167
    Last week all I read was "OMG merge servers already, so and so server is dead".....They plan a merge and this week its...well this!
    Yah but the problem is that the server merges are not immediate. They have it planned to do server merges at the end of July 2018. That''s about one month from now, by then the population will be dead. well it already is partially dead, but yah if they wait till the end of July to merges servers that's the nail in the coffin.

    I would give you a guest pass to SWOTR, but then I wouldn't be able to find a way to live with myself afterwards....

  • UnbinoUnbino Member UncommonPosts: 13

    Rhoklaw said:


    Mikeha said:


    Albatroes said:


    Mikeha said:


    Tokken said:


    Mikeha said:

    Black Desert has open world pvp and is a highly successful recently released mmo.



    Open World PVP is not the problem so stop trying to blame it you Care Bears!


    BDO has open pvp once you hit a certain level I believe..... the care bears are safe until then.


    Same with Bless. Open world pvp does not begin until level 35 from what I understand. Really I can not remember the last game that had open world pvp from the start. 


    BDO's open world pvp is 'successful' because of the karma system which makes it pointless and even a hinderance to people who partake in OW Pvp, so its like comparing apples to oranges.



    I am not comparing anything, 

    What I am saying is that Open World PVP is not a bad feature to have in a game. People think any game with Open World PVP will fail because it has Open World PVP. I will always disagree with that. Its all about how Open World PVP is done.  Black Desert is a true example of a recently released Open World PVP game thats successful regardless of how anybody believes why. 


    Black Desert's open world pvp is a success because it is a part of a really good game. 




    As someone already pointed out to you, BDO is not really as OWPvP as you think. At first, it was level 45 and now it's level 50 that one is able to PvP. I'm sure you knew this though before claiming BDO as being truly an OWPvP game. Even Bless Online isn't truly an OWPvP game, because it isn't until level 30-35+ before you are forced into PvP zones to continue leveling. However, during my leveling experience, all I encountered were higher level players ganking me while I was questing. That pretty much sums up the extent of what OWPvP entails. People with higher level characters preying on those trying to enjoy the PvE aspects of the game.

    You want to know why they are consolidating the servers? Because anyone that got the game to enjoy the PvE aspects has left, or at least a majority of them. Which means the majority of people left playing are the ones who enjoy PvP and guess what, PvP players can't stand other PvP players because they present fair fights. Eventually, the weaker or less skilled PvPers will leave until the only ones left playing are card swiping whales and the 1% of elitists who are actually good at PvP.



    Absolutly agree. Games with an open World pvp have died ,or have a very population. However, Games like Wow ,or FF14 are the most playeds.
    There are ppl Who like and enjoy pvp in a mmo, but you cant force ppl to do pvp. There are other Games for that, or Best said, other gender of Games.
    craftseeker
  • AkulasAkulas Member RarePosts: 2,411
    Could have put an actual bet on it and get the moneys worth out of the game since it would have been a guaranteed return.

    This isn't a signature, you just think it is.

  • ShinamiShinami Member UncommonPosts: 821

    Sovrath said:


    cheyane said:

    Open PvP is horrible but hey keep making these games I'm sure it will sink in one day.

    If I go to "The Cheesecake factory and have a piece of cheesecake it's going to be "meh."

    If I go to Denny's and have a piece of their cheesecake it's going to be bad.

    If I go to the supermarket and buy one of the various frozen cheesecakes they are going to range from meh to bad.

    So they should learn and stop making cheesecake!

    Oh wait, I could just go to "Two Little Red Hens" or "Eileens" or Juniors in New York and actually have a good piece of cheesecake.


    If you are going to judge an open pvp game then pick a game that is considered the quintessential great pvp game.

    Open pvp is absolutely fine. In a game that can handle it.







    Or I can make the cheesecake myself given what I've tried and know from eating it, testing ingredients, and having some help from people who love eating it. However, when everyone only has cheesecake for too long, even the best cheesecake gets boring....even if bought from the cheesecake capital of the world.

    This is what I think of that subgenre of mmorpgs right now.
    One can be craft Cheesecake,
    even at its best... still is Cheesecake.

    Not everyone will like it.
    And there will always be haters.
    ...and eventually it can fall out of popularity.

    Open World PvP was popular way back when all games were subscription based and people had the time and energy to grind forever for the power to kill others, and eventually gank weak players.

    The strong survived, but the weak who kept on getting ganked (who were many) regardless if they are care bears or not, left the game....along with that subgenre and pretty soon the good and elite players were the ones remaining, feeling alone... killing off one another.

    Eventually the population dwindled.
    They tried to inject flavor into their Cheesecake..
    but Cheesecake is Cheesecake any way you slice it.


    We can discuss how to cook the best Cheesecake known to man.
    It can be special
    It can be epic.
    It can even reign supreme in the eyes of the masses.

    But like I said before...
    Cheesecake is Cheesecake,
    any way you slice it.

    ....and even the best will fade out of popularity eventually.
    Including anything we conjure up.

    The Age of Cheesecake is over.
    The masses have spoken.
    They want Angel Cake or Devils Food.

    All hail the death of cheesecake.
    Thousands and Thousands of Slices up for grabs..
    But less and less people every year want them.
    So they rot
    and are forgotten.
    only to leave a bad taste if remembered.
  • SolancerSolancer Member UncommonPosts: 108
    My 2 cents, I didn't expect this server merge so soon, given the number of wise ppl had pre-pay and everything. Bless as a game is good, just the foundation of the core code is are badly written. I might even say it be more costly and a bigger team to rewrite the code than as to create a whole new game. Would explain why the team didn't even patch the item dup exploit.

    Ask for PvP in a RPG is a silly idea/feature to include. How much sense in term of balance in a purposely design weakness in classes base system? Well you could argue for a challenge reason, however, that is not something most ppl that goes into a open world mmorpg for. PvE players can accept a challenge in regards to fight off an invasion, run deadly dungeons, or simply to save someone from mass over run argo group of mobs. In short PvE-er have logical/good reason for their action, while the PvP-er just do random stuff, mainly killing everything and contribute to down grade the WHOLE experience/reaon of PLAYING together in the true meaning of MMORPG games are supposedly design for.

    When games put/allow 2 different ethical groups into one game ofc it won't do well. Ask for the ppl saying PvP can work "IF DONE RIGHT" which I would ask according to Who? There is no universal right and fair rules to setup this crazy "if done right" statement. Then there is Aion or BDO argument it working for them. If not for the obvious, I would simply say if Aion or BDO where to drop all Female chars then we can come back and have a decision on how well will it do without the aesthetic reasoning behind that.

    Regardless, Bless itself is not a bad game, just the code/engine/what have you are. Ever since 2014 the mmo genre are in decline as it is, now the list of playable games got one less and that not a good thing for mmo space as a whole.
  • axtrantiaxtranti Member UncommonPosts: 78
    played this in JP version for 40 minutes and uninstalled it swiftly. Shame on whoever payed 39$ for this pile garbage. Shame on all the people that made fun of me, now they all refunded and are back to their original mmo. Aion did better than this on release and probably would still do better than this. How can anyone consider buying a game like this for 39$ in 2018, you're so freaking desperate for a good mmorpg. Stop feeding companies like this money they do not deserve and some day, someone might actually make an mmorpg worth paying for. As it is now, the 'savior' of mmorpgs wont come any time soon.

    asdasdasd

  • ray12kray12k Member UncommonPosts: 472
    kitarad said:
    ray12k said:
    Lol this thread is funny.... Carebears crying about pvp... Pvp mmorpgs/mmos are the biggest money makers(check the data). Most people don't play a game just to prance around in gear and fight brain dead npc's... IMO carebears are killing the genre. 
    Which PvP MMORPG are you talking about .The money maker you mentioned and please don't name an MMO but an MMORPG.
    ? Just Google it kid. Pvp mmorpgs have been the top money makers for a bit. 
    craftseekerPhryMadFrenchieKyleranAeander
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 6,730
    So would games like Bless be better off just staying in alpha or beta for years and years?
  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 4,897
    ray12k said:
    kitarad said:
    ray12k said:
    Lol this thread is funny.... Carebears crying about pvp... Pvp mmorpgs/mmos are the biggest money makers(check the data). Most people don't play a game just to prance around in gear and fight brain dead npc's... IMO carebears are killing the genre. 
    Which PvP MMORPG are you talking about .The money maker you mentioned and please don't name an MMO but an MMORPG.
    ? Just Google it kid. Pvp mmorpgs have been the top money makers for a bit. 
    You cannot name any got it, I knew it. MMOs don't count only MMORPGs.
    Phry

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 10,452
    kitarad said:
    ray12k said:
    kitarad said:
    ray12k said:
    Lol this thread is funny.... Carebears crying about pvp... Pvp mmorpgs/mmos are the biggest money makers(check the data). Most people don't play a game just to prance around in gear and fight brain dead npc's... IMO carebears are killing the genre. 
    Which PvP MMORPG are you talking about .The money maker you mentioned and please don't name an MMO but an MMORPG.
    ? Just Google it kid. Pvp mmorpgs have been the top money makers for a bit. 
    You cannot name any got it, I knew it. MMOs don't count only MMORPGs.
    Well, the most lucrative MMO's MMORPG etc. are PVE orientated, though not entirely PVE, even games like BDO are more PVE biased than PVP (karma system ftw!) as for profitable PVP MMO's of whatever type, i don't think i can name one without drifting into MOBA's which are a different genre of game altogether, and if the guy is talking about Fortnite and League of Legends, totally not MMO's of any variety let alone MMORPG's so if he can't name one himself without alluding to some imaginary game that somehow only exists through the power of google  ;)
    cheyaneMadFrenchiekitarad
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,211
    Phry said:
    kitarad said:
    ray12k said:
    kitarad said:
    ray12k said:
    Lol this thread is funny.... Carebears crying about pvp... Pvp mmorpgs/mmos are the biggest money makers(check the data). Most people don't play a game just to prance around in gear and fight brain dead npc's... IMO carebears are killing the genre. 
    Which PvP MMORPG are you talking about .The money maker you mentioned and please don't name an MMO but an MMORPG.
    ? Just Google it kid. Pvp mmorpgs have been the top money makers for a bit. 
    You cannot name any got it, I knew it. MMOs don't count only MMORPGs.
    Well, the most lucrative MMO's MMORPG etc. are PVE orientated, though not entirely PVE, even games like BDO are more PVE biased than PVP (karma system ftw!) as for profitable PVP MMO's of whatever type, i don't think i can name one without drifting into MOBA's which are a different genre of game altogether, and if the guy is talking about Fortnite and League of Legends, totally not MMO's of any variety let alone MMORPG's so if he can't name one himself without alluding to some imaginary game that somehow only exists through the power of google  ;)
    Yea, the moneymakers have largely included both PvE and PvP, and generally have systems governing their PvP.

    Not sure what that guy is on about.

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  • cagancagan Member UncommonPosts: 445
    edited June 2018
    newsflash...only 5k players left :)
    edit: only in 1 month...new mmo fail record?
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