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Top 5 MMORPGs Sorted by Population (2018)

MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 8,852
edited June 2018 in The Pub at MMORPG.COM

The data has been collected and here are the results. :)



"Estimating the population of an MMO game is a daunting task, and publishers are not willing to share their numbers on these matters. The reason? I guess WoW’s population is so big, that the rest are embarrassed for their numbers.

So let’s dive in, and sort the most popular MMOs by their user base, with any and all (authority) data that is available on the subject."

https://altarofgaming.com/all-mmos-sorted-by-population-2018/


1. World Of Warcraft

2. Elder Scrolls Online

3. Guild Wars 2

4. Final Fantasy XIV

5. Black Desert Online

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  • Teak2112Teak2112 Member UncommonPosts: 61
    edited June 2018
    I put 0 faith in their population numbers.  Those numbers are far too high.  FFXIV having 1M subs would be huge, when you consider EQ's peak was 650K or so and thats the number 2 sub game of all time (sustained peak that is).  Also, if you take out accounts created in last 30 days no way BDO is anywhere close to 1M.

    As for overall pop, 1 is obvious.  2-4 are also obvious, in some order.

    Im curious just how big the gap is from 4 to 5.  I would imagine FFXIV has 80-90% of ESO's population, but BDO more like 25% of FFXIV.


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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,174
    edited June 2018
    So damn pleased for Black Desert Online . One Million you go game !
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 8,852
    cheyane said:
    So damn pleased for Black Desert Online . One Million you go game !

    Still coming to Xbox and PS4 so the numbers should go up. I have an Xbox One X and a 4K TV so if its a good port I am moving to the Xbox version. 
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 32,767
    edited June 2018
    Fake news.

    Most accurate statement comes from the sad, but laughable bio at the page bottom:"

    "Currently wasting life"
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,358
    These numbers are way off.

    BDO had 120k CCU on launch, that number is way down today. No way in hell they are anywhere near 1mil active players today.

    ESO currently with 3mil active players? lol

    and GW2 currently with 1.5mil active players?

    Not even close


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  • FrozenyearroundFrozenyearround Member UncommonPosts: 155
    Well it is similar to this post at the end of 2017.  I still don't think the numbers are correct though.

    http://massivelyop.com/2017/12/06/perfect-ten-the-healthiest-live-mmorpgs-at-the-end-of-2017/
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,271
    I don't know how accurate the numbers or the source is, but it does seem right that those would be in the top 5.
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  • LetsinodLetsinod Member UncommonPosts: 384
    Teak2112 said:
    I put 0 faith in their population numbers.  Those numbers are far too high.  FFXIV having 1M subs would be huge, when you consider EQ's peak was 650K or so and thats the number 2 sub game of all time (sustained peak that is).  Also, if you take out accounts created in last 30 days no way BDO is anywhere close to 1M.

    As for overall pop, 1 is obvious.  2-4 are also obvious, in some order.

    Im curious just how big the gap is from 4 to 5.  I would imagine FFXIV has 80-90% of ESO's population, but BDO more like 25% of FFXIV.


    You owe me a new keyboard as you made me spew coffee all over mine.  EQ is not even in the top 10 for highest population games ever.  
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  • ikcinikcin Member RarePosts: 2,180
    edited June 2018
    Mikeha said:

    The data has been collected and here are the results. :)



    "Estimating the population of an MMO game is a daunting task, and publishers are not willing to share their numbers on these matters. The reason? I guess WoW’s population is so big, that the rest are embarrassed for their numbers.

    So let’s dive in, and sort the most popular MMOs by their user base, with any and all (authority) data that is available on the subject."

    https://altarofgaming.com/all-mmos-sorted-by-population-2018/


    1. World Of Warcraft

    2. Elder Scrolls Online

    3. Guild Wars 2

    4. Final Fantasy XIV

    5. Black Desert Online


    I do not see any MMORPG in this list. That are MSO games. And all of them combined are much less popular than LoL. In fact even Diablo 3 has larger player base as it is a better MSO.

    Also the information in the link is strongly misleading. it is pretty easy on monthly basis - WoW has about 5 millions players - they claim more than 7. ESO has less than 3 millions for sure. GW2 has more than 2 millions after the last expansion. BDO has less than 300 thousands of players, or more than a million - it depends if we count the mobile game as the same MMORPG. The data in this link is BS.

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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member RarePosts: 5,108
    I always question titles like "HERE are THE top games by population!" No one "knows" the numbers. What did they use as data?

    For hose wondering, Here is what they used for BDO:

    Community

    Avg. Monthly Queries on Google: 10M+
    YouTube Videos: 6M+
    Twitch Followers: 660K+
    Reddit Subs: 80K+

    Social Media

    Website Visits: 10M+ / month
    Facebook Fans:
    110K+
    Twitter Followers: 60K+
    YouTube Subscribers: 30K+



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  • fs23otmfs23otm Member UncommonPosts: 501
    Active players is a horrible term... That could be any metric. Oh, this account logged in one time in the last 180 days... count it. 

    Active should mean actively logging in some % of the time frame covered. Personally, I consider active as 75% in 30 days or around 22 days of the month the player logs in. 

    Most companies bloat the numbers, and count a single login in 30 days as active.

    The other number is Concurrent Users.... what is the peak number of users logged around the clock...  
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  • ikcinikcin Member RarePosts: 2,180
    fs23otm said:
    Active players is a horrible term... That could be any metric. Oh, this account logged in one time in the last 180 days... count it. 

    Active should mean actively logging in some % of the time frame covered. Personally, I consider active as 75% in 30 days or around 22 days of the month the player logs in. 

    Most companies bloat the numbers, and count a single login in 30 days as active.

    The other number is Concurrent Users.... what is the peak number of users logged around the clock...  

    Active is every player who logged in the last 30 days. It is a pretty clear term.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,170
    Good to see ESO is doing so well.

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,607
    Whats funny is , i think Lineage beats them all , and its not listed
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,718
    The article does go on to list different numbers as given by different sources and as they say most companies don't share their exact numbers leaving everyone to speculate based on their data source estimates.
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  • fs23otmfs23otm Member UncommonPosts: 501
    ikcin said:
    fs23otm said:
    Active players is a horrible term... That could be any metric. Oh, this account logged in one time in the last 180 days... count it. 

    Active should mean actively logging in some % of the time frame covered. Personally, I consider active as 75% in 30 days or around 22 days of the month the player logs in. 

    Most companies bloat the numbers, and count a single login in 30 days as active.

    The other number is Concurrent Users.... what is the peak number of users logged around the clock...  

    Active is every player who logged in the last 30 days. It is a pretty clear term.
    One login in 30 days is not effectively active...and again my point is companies are going to do that to bloat numbers. And there is no rule anywhere that it is 30 days... it could be 6 months, a year... all that is irrelevant.

    Concurrent users are the only real number that truly paints the picture of a thriving game. 



     
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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,174
    Since all companies bloat the numbers they might be equally bloated then  :p
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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member RarePosts: 5,108
    cheyane said:
    Since all companies bloat the numbers they might be equally bloated then  :p
    I agree 1000% (bloated numbers!) :lol:
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  • GolelornGolelorn Member RarePosts: 1,387
    Surprised WoW is still on top. ESO seems much more populated, plus its on 3 systems. Is this PC only?
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 2,850
    So is there some kind of in-game census software or is this just numbers out of someones ass?

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 6,831
    I thought LoL claimed they have 80 gazillion members?
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 6,831
    4 of those have optional subs? Is this just someone pushing the p2p agenda?
  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,174
    4 of those have optional subs? Is this just someone pushing the p2p agenda?
    As opposed to the cash shop one ?
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 5,130
    I have never seen anyone post numbers about game populations that were not immediately given a raspberry. Is there no data that people were willing to treat as valid or close to valid?

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  • alyndalealyndale Member UncommonPosts: 905
    <sighs> Ok I'll bite. Someone out there educate me on where to actually find TRUTHFUL sub numbers or in-game number that we may globally see as accurate. It does seem this is one of the two dozen, or so, topics that get covered ad infinitum. Folks please please for the love of accuracy at least attempt a truthful link we can rely on?

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