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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    DMKano said:
    The mage combat rework is awful - whoever said that it's good, must have not played the mage in JP/Korean version.

    Seriously, zerk is the only class that has any kind of a flow with the new combo system - the mage is much worse in Steam version. The combo layout makes no sense at all for mage.


    It's crazy how some party buffs are buried behind combos too. You miss the 1st or 2nd attack no soup for you. You have to restart the tree.

    I also don't like that you can't customize what key your combo starters are. It's hard locked in as far as I know.

    Also why does it seem like only Zerkers have free aiming mode? Is there a setting I missed?

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  • EponyxDamorEponyxDamor Member RarePosts: 726
    DMKano said:
    The mage combat rework is awful - whoever said that it's good, must have not played the mage in JP/Korean version.

    Seriously, zerk is the only class that has any kind of a flow with the new combo system - the mage is much worse in Steam version. The combo layout makes no sense at all for mage.


    It's crazy how some party buffs are buried behind combos too. You miss the 1st or 2nd attack no soup for you. You have to restart the tree.

    I also don't like that you can't customize what key your combo starters are. It's hard locked in as far as I know.

    Also why does it seem like only Zerkers have free aiming mode? Is there a setting I missed?

    Zerker is currently the only class that has action combat enabled; the others are "substandard" at the moment and were excluded from the game according to Neowiz.
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,226
    DMKano said:
    The mage combat rework is awful - whoever said that it's good, must have not played the mage in JP/Korean version.

    Seriously, zerk is the only class that has any kind of a flow with the new combo system - the mage is much worse in Steam version. The combo layout makes no sense at all for mage.


    It's crazy how some party buffs are buried behind combos too. You miss the 1st or 2nd attack no soup for you. You have to restart the tree.

    I also don't like that you can't customize what key your combo starters are. It's hard locked in as far as I know.

    Also why does it seem like only Zerkers have free aiming mode? Is there a setting I missed?


    Because they disabled action combat for other classes, which is a major fail.

    I mean they promised and sold action combat only to disable it for most classes... /facepalm

    Official response on disabling action combat


    EponyxDamor
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,226
    edited May 2018
    DMKano said:
    The mage combat rework is awful - whoever said that it's good, must have not played the mage in JP/Korean version.

    Seriously, zerk is the only class that has any kind of a flow with the new combo system - the mage is much worse in Steam version. The combo layout makes no sense at all for mage.


    It's crazy how some party buffs are buried behind combos too. You miss the 1st or 2nd attack no soup for you. You have to restart the tree.

    I also don't like that you can't customize what key your combo starters are. It's hard locked in as far as I know.

    Also why does it seem like only Zerkers have free aiming mode? Is there a setting I missed?

    Zerker is currently the only class that has action combat enabled; the others are "substandard" at the moment and were excluded from the game according to Neowiz.

    Why didn't NeoWiz announce this before they started selling packs - since action combat is a major draw for many people purchasing.

    BTW - this right here was the last straw for lots of my guildies who requested refund - they simply said that Bless didn't deliver what they advertised.

    Big Kudos to steam for refunding all the cash shop purchases in addition to packs - they are doing refunds right.
    EponyxDamor
  • EponyxDamorEponyxDamor Member RarePosts: 726
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    The mage combat rework is awful - whoever said that it's good, must have not played the mage in JP/Korean version.

    Seriously, zerk is the only class that has any kind of a flow with the new combo system - the mage is much worse in Steam version. The combo layout makes no sense at all for mage.


    It's crazy how some party buffs are buried behind combos too. You miss the 1st or 2nd attack no soup for you. You have to restart the tree.

    I also don't like that you can't customize what key your combo starters are. It's hard locked in as far as I know.

    Also why does it seem like only Zerkers have free aiming mode? Is there a setting I missed?

    Zerker is currently the only class that has action combat enabled; the others are "substandard" at the moment and were excluded from the game according to Neowiz.

    Why didn't NeoWiz announce this before they started selling packs - since action combat is a major draw for many people purchasing.

    BTW - this right here was the last straw for lots of my guildies who requested refund - they simply said that Bless didn't deliver what they advertised.

    Big Kudos to steam for refunding all the cash shop purchases in addition to packs - they are doing refunds right.
    I've noticed that the game has disappeared from any of the "top sellers" or "whats popular" sections of MMO, RPG, and Early Access, where at least two packs had previously been in the top for each one during the day.

    I'm guessing a ton of people refunded, but I really can't say I blame them at this point. Even I am getting a bit miffed that pretty much all of the "end game PvP" content is completely missing. Arenas, battlegrounds, honor, and ranking systems are all missing currently.
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,226
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    The mage combat rework is awful - whoever said that it's good, must have not played the mage in JP/Korean version.

    Seriously, zerk is the only class that has any kind of a flow with the new combo system - the mage is much worse in Steam version. The combo layout makes no sense at all for mage.


    It's crazy how some party buffs are buried behind combos too. You miss the 1st or 2nd attack no soup for you. You have to restart the tree.

    I also don't like that you can't customize what key your combo starters are. It's hard locked in as far as I know.

    Also why does it seem like only Zerkers have free aiming mode? Is there a setting I missed?

    Zerker is currently the only class that has action combat enabled; the others are "substandard" at the moment and were excluded from the game according to Neowiz.

    Why didn't NeoWiz announce this before they started selling packs - since action combat is a major draw for many people purchasing.

    BTW - this right here was the last straw for lots of my guildies who requested refund - they simply said that Bless didn't deliver what they advertised.

    Big Kudos to steam for refunding all the cash shop purchases in addition to packs - they are doing refunds right.
    I've noticed that the game has disappeared from any of the "top sellers" or "whats popular" sections of MMO, RPG, and Early Access, where at least two packs had previously been in the top for each one during the day.

    I'm guessing a ton of people refunded, but I really can't say I blame them at this point. Even I am getting a bit miffed that pretty much all of the "end game PvP" content is completely missing. Arenas, battlegrounds, honor, and ranking systems are all missing currently.


    Yep - the reason why Valve pulled them from both "New and Trending" as well as "Top Sellers" lists - is due to current issues and rates of refunds.

    Valve/Steam doesn't want to tarnish their own reputation by listing problematic games in those front page categories - as it looks bad on them if the game has technical issues and is a "top seller" and the buyer just ends up getting a refund.

    Steam has to be very pissed at NeoWiz right now - but it's their own fault for not vetting the games better.
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,226
    Ouch - 38% on Steam - mostly negative.

    NeoWiz might be out of options for Bless now - this is litterally the worst case scenario after failed launches, they couldn't afford another one


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  • DarkHighDarkHigh Member UncommonPosts: 145
    edited May 2018
    I've personally refunded with 8 hours played. edit: 6 hours trying to play, 2 hours played. I love this game on paper, what we got is not what we thought was coming.
  • EponyxDamorEponyxDamor Member RarePosts: 726
    DMKano said:
    Ouch - 38% on Steam - mostly negative.

    NeoWiz might be out of options for Bless now - this is litterally the worst case scenario after failed launches, they couldn't afford another one


    It definitely doesn't reflect well on Neowiz right now. As open as they have been about problems with the game during launch, they really butchered it more than was necessary. Failure to disclose lack of action combat for 4/5 classes (after advertising it?) , character-bound founder's items, and only starting with 1 server per region (LOL) were really poor choices.

    Currently, all of the emissaries who posted reviews to YouTube/Twitch have warned people from purchasing the game, as well -- Mostly due to performance issues and lack of action combat.

    I'm rooting for Neowiz, because I think Bless could be a really great game, but they have a LOT to fix very quickly in order to gain footing.
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,226
    DMKano said:
    Ouch - 38% on Steam - mostly negative.

    NeoWiz might be out of options for Bless now - this is litterally the worst case scenario after failed launches, they couldn't afford another one


    It definitely doesn't reflect well on Neowiz right now. As open as they have been about problems with the game during launch, they really butchered it more than was necessary. Failure to disclose lack of action combat for 4/5 classes (after advertising it?) , character-bound founder's items, and only starting with 1 server per region (LOL) were really poor choices.

    Currently, all of the emissaries who posted reviews to YouTube/Twitch have warned people from purchasing the game, as well -- Mostly due to performance issues and lack of action combat.

    I'm rooting for Neowiz, because I think Bless could be a really great game, but they have a LOT to fix very quickly in order to gain footing.


    Man - can you imagine Bless at it's full potential - redone in UE4, DX11, with proper action combat, properly localized - the game would be 1000x better than this shell of a game NeoWiz tried to throw at western players.

    I said it months ago - western playerbase has zero tolerance for BS and will rip any early access games to shreds if there are issues - guess what - exactly what happened.
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  • DarkHighDarkHigh Member UncommonPosts: 145
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Ouch - 38% on Steam - mostly negative.

    NeoWiz might be out of options for Bless now - this is litterally the worst case scenario after failed launches, they couldn't afford another one


    It definitely doesn't reflect well on Neowiz right now. As open as they have been about problems with the game during launch, they really butchered it more than was necessary. Failure to disclose lack of action combat for 4/5 classes (after advertising it?) , character-bound founder's items, and only starting with 1 server per region (LOL) were really poor choices.

    Currently, all of the emissaries who posted reviews to YouTube/Twitch have warned people from purchasing the game, as well -- Mostly due to performance issues and lack of action combat.

    I'm rooting for Neowiz, because I think Bless could be a really great game, but they have a LOT to fix very quickly in order to gain footing.


    Man - can you imagine Bless at it's full potential - redone in UE4, DX11, with proper action combat, properly localized - the game would be 1000x better than this shell of a game NeoWiz tried to throw at western players.

    I said it months ago - western playerbase has zero tolerance for BS and will rip any early access games to shreds if there are issues - guess what - exactly what happened.
    Couldn't agree more, bless in UE4 even if tab target but a better system and better translations, could be a leader in the MMO genre. 
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,505
    Peon did bring up some interesting points about A:IR since that's supposedly on UE3 as well, so we've been warned I guess even though Bluehole is a bit more noteworthy but still, that trailer was like watching someone flip a Polaroid book.
  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    DMKano said:
    Ouch - 38% on Steam - mostly negative.

    NeoWiz might be out of options for Bless now - this is litterally the worst case scenario after failed launches, they couldn't afford another one




    Currently, all of the emissaries who posted reviews to YouTube/Twitch have warned people from purchasing the game, as well -- Mostly due to performance issues and lack of action combat.

    I'm rooting for Neowiz, because I think Bless could be a really great game, but they have a LOT to fix very quickly in order to gain footing.
    Not quite all, Pohx is still defending the game for instance.

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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member RarePosts: 1,638
    Albatroes said:
    Peon did bring up some interesting points about A:IR since that's supposedly on UE3 as well, so we've been warned I guess even though Bluehole is a bit more noteworthy but still, that trailer was like watching someone flip a Polaroid book.
    As long as western gamers keep supporting eastern sweatshop games(JP not included) they will continue to encroach on the west and eventually one way or another convert all western games to be mirrors of their crap. Look at the microtransaction hell in western games that already exists because of eastern influence. All the nonsense started in the east so if you like games not being p2w or garbage quality don't give a single red cent to any eastern company minus JP.
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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,826
    Game is really fun for me. I have played a little over four hours and am having a great time. I have a lot of experience with the game in other regions and also I am not having the issues many are having. I feel bad for those that can't even play the game at all. Or are having hardcore performance issues. Hopefully the majority of issues can be ironed out in a short period of time. 
    Bless is a game I loved as soon as I played it years ago. It still has that feeling for me. Regardless of it's issues I am rooting for them to pull it out.  

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  • iixviiiixiixviiiix Member RarePosts: 1,973
    xNIAx1 said:
    Tips for new players, don't play b2p games with cash shop . 
    I don't know how they was released in Asia but steam bless is B2P with cash shop lol .

    So let fix your comment
  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,553
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    The mage combat rework is awful - whoever said that it's good, must have not played the mage in JP/Korean version.

    Seriously, zerk is the only class that has any kind of a flow with the new combo system - the mage is much worse in Steam version. The combo layout makes no sense at all for mage.


    It's crazy how some party buffs are buried behind combos too. You miss the 1st or 2nd attack no soup for you. You have to restart the tree.

    I also don't like that you can't customize what key your combo starters are. It's hard locked in as far as I know.

    Also why does it seem like only Zerkers have free aiming mode? Is there a setting I missed?


    Because they disabled action combat for other classes, which is a major fail.

    I mean they promised and sold action combat only to disable it for most classes... /facepalm

    Official response on disabling action combat


    Wow, this is pretty foul. So they touted the free aiming from the beginning, bait and switched and expect folks to wait until they do fix it and rewrite all that PVP muscle memory when they do.

    Sorry for the inconvenience indeed.
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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,649
    edited May 2018
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Ouch - 38% on Steam - mostly negative.

    NeoWiz might be out of options for Bless now - this is litterally the worst case scenario after failed launches, they couldn't afford another one

    I said it months ago - western playerbase has zero tolerance for BS and will rip any early access games to shreds if there are issues - guess what - exactly what happened.
    And what they showed on their trailers was pure garbage, I am surprised you even tried this game, I just think it was so obviously going to be a shit show. I give you no points for any predictions you made, because you didn't need to try the game to know it was gonna be bullshit. Just look at the trailers and their history. It was like treating stage 4 cancer with Vitamin D supplementation. You don't need a test run to know it is going to fail. 

    Can someone give me a few reasons why they thought it was going to be decent or were you just desparate?

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  • phantomghostphantomghost Member UncommonPosts: 736
    Really isn't that bad. All you ever read are the people who spend what they can't afford and then are upset they didn't like the game.

    Launch was not perfect... But certainly not the worst we have seen.

    Who buys a PVP game, gets mad at the pve and quits before the PVP anyway? Definitely not someone I'd take advice from.

  • EponyxDamorEponyxDamor Member RarePosts: 726
    Really isn't that bad. All you ever read are the people who spend what they can't afford and then are upset they didn't like the game.

    Launch was not perfect... But certainly not the worst we have seen.

    Who buys a PVP game, gets mad at the pve and quits before the PVP anyway? Definitely not someone I'd take advice from.
    To be fair, there isn't really even PvP in the game right now. At least, there's no reason to PvP. Arenas, battlegrounds, ranking, and honor are not currently active in the game, but I'm hoping with today's "official launch" they will enable it.
  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member UncommonPosts: 400

    Sovrath said:







    Best tip: Watch this before trying the game


    yeah but I'm watching other videos that don't have his issues. Clearly he's having them and clearly this is a problem for him. But other people don't seem to be having this problem.

    Some of his other issues are certainly non-issues for me such as "animation lock".

    Steam offers a refund. If one wants to try the game and see for themselves they can also get a refund. This is not hard and certainly doesn't deserve crying from some people.

    One wants to try it? Go ahead! You have issues and don't want to deal with them? Refund! Problem solved, go grocery shopping.

    Life doesn't have to be hard.


    Apparently they didn't do much on improving the performance side if it stutter on 1080 ti that says something if the games failed before and also what the dev has been doing for the past 2 years?
  • kreakrea Member UncommonPosts: 226
    edited May 2018
    Did buy the game yesterday did play it for like 3 hours already asked for a refund , core gameplay is realy sluggish didnt like the combat system and performance is awfull to .

    Not able to have 144hz and its fps is capped at 62 it also goes up and down for no reason seems engine related , normaly i dont even refund games and i buy like 2/3 each month for pc or console but realy didnt like the game and i think its gonna fail fast .
  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,386
    DMKano said:
    Ouch - 38% on Steam - mostly negative.

    NeoWiz might be out of options for Bless now - this is litterally the worst case scenario after failed launches, they couldn't afford another one


    Why release the game if this is the state it is in ?
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  • phantomghostphantomghost Member UncommonPosts: 736
    cheyane said:
    DMKano said:
    Ouch - 38% on Steam - mostly negative.

    NeoWiz might be out of options for Bless now - this is litterally the worst case scenario after failed launches, they couldn't afford another one


    Why release the game if this is the state it is in ?
    Pretty sure it's listed right at the bottom of the screenshot.  EARLY ACCESS GAME.

    Pretty sure the question should be, why buy something that isn't finished if you're expecting a finished product?
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