Not sure how well the game will turn out but likely marketing experts, monetization managers and psychologists will be studying the funding of SC for years to come.
But hey, COE got people to throw in up to $20K for just the promise of being a king, with no actual game anywhere in sight.
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I just payed $53,000 to start a business on franchise fees alone. I don't know why I'm saying it, but i guess for half what I put down, I could get everything in a game that has a very high likelihood of failure. Just like a small business.
I don't get it, is this game only for the wealthy in real life? I mean hey if that's what their going for that's fine do your thing, but I haven't seen nearly enough to want to give them 60 for the game. I think i'm missing something.
Reading interviews on people who spent tens of thousands of dollars on this game they were mostly middle class or upper middle class. One guy worked a second job for the money. Another had some extra bonus money to spend. Still another guy got together with his fellow employees who pooled their money to buy for their corp.
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No excuse really. They've made more than enough money to finish a game, we've had triple A studios that have made games with less.
I've been a whale before, it's not worth it. Seems great now, but when the game shuts down and all the real money has dried up after it gets stale, those dropping this kind of money won't feel anything but cheated. These virtual items are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. I feel bad for those with more money than sense.
No excuse really. They've made more than enough money to finish a game, we've had triple A studios that have made games with less.
I've been a whale before, it's not worth it. Seems great now, but when the game shuts down and all the real money has dried up after it gets stale, those dropping this kind of money won't feel anything but cheated. These virtual items are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. I feel bad for those with more money than sense.
I feel bad for those who are so greed of envy that people can spend such amounts on their hobbies that they resort to pretending to care about how other people spend their money.
Randoms should be thankful that people are funding 2 (not 1) unprecedented and ambitious games for as low as 20$ for them instead they complain lol
A lot of gamers want this to be made and have no problem putting their $$$upport since 2012, there's always been people complaining because that's the easiest path I guess, haters gona hate but in reality they are dying to play a game like this lol
Have you ever wondered why, after all these years, nothing close as released?
EA where's our Star Wars space epic opera or Online Universe battles?
Bioware what have you done to Mass Effect?
Blizzard where's StarCraft Online?
RockStar where's our GTA in Space?
Ubisoft where's Beyond Good & Evil 2?
If it was easy some company would have been done by now to cash in on the space whales, just like Epic's Fortnite cashed in on PUBG's battleroyall success. Yeah haters gona hate but they will still play Star Citizen in the end of it lol
*sigh* Oh great another cockamamie hate thread about Star Citi ...... 27,000 motherfucking dollars!!?? WHAT THE FUCK!!!???
Like this is news? They've been selling a $2,500 single digital asset off and on since 2014. How long have they had the $15,000 completionist package available?
No surprise, here.
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When the game is feature and content complete, we'll judge it on its merits.
Regardless, $27k to lease pixels (Remember, you don't actually own any of these ships. CIG can change them in any way they like, and if CIG decides to shut down shop, they're gone with it) is hilariously silly.
When the game is feature and content complete, we'll judge it on its merits.
Regardless, $27k to lease pixels (Remember, you don't actually own any of these ships. CIG can change them in any way they like, and if CIG decides to shut down shop, they're gone with it) is hilariously silly.
Doesn't matter, they could spend 2k's on gifts, food and beverages for the staff (and many do) and it's none of your business. What people choose to do with their money is their problem alone. How many spend 27k a night in Vegas gambling, hookers, blow and champagne and wake up remembering nothing the next morning lol, are you going to pretend about them too?
Now if you say "but it's a game that I'm interested in and seeing people spend money upfront makes uncomfortable because It might hinder my possible future enjoyment from it" that's another story altogether...
I'm glad that they are even trying what they are trying, no holds barred. I don't care about whales "getting ahead and ruining my fun" because I'm already having fun play-testing and watching the game progress year by year. I'm enjoying the ride thoroughly.
Spend 27$k on Star Citizen, FIFA Cards, Clash of Clans or WoW Accounts/Gold why should anyone pretend to care about other's money when it's none of their business in the first place?
When the game is feature and content complete, we'll judge it on its merits.
Regardless, $27k to lease pixels (Remember, you don't actually own any of these ships. CIG can change them in any way they like, and if CIG decides to shut down shop, they're gone with it) is hilariously silly.
Doesn't matter, they could spend 2k's on gifts, food and beverages for the staff (and many do) and it's none of your business. What people choose to do with their money is their problem alone. How many spend 27k a night in Vegas gambling, hookers, blow and champagne and wake up remembering nothing the next morning lol, are you going to pretend about them too?
Now if you say "but it's a game that I'm interested in and seeing people spend money upfront makes uncomfortable because It might hinder my possible future enjoyment from it" that's another story altogether...
I'm glad that they are even trying what they are trying, no holds barred. I don't care about whales "getting ahead and ruining my fun" because I'm already having fun play-testing and watching the game progress year by year. I'm enjoying the ride thoroughly.
Spend 27$k on Star Citizen, FIFA Cards, Clash of Clans or WoW Accounts/Gold why should anyone pretend to care about other's money when it's none of their business in the first place?
They can spend it on whatever they like. And I can make a judgement on the wisdom of their spending based upon what they get for the cash and the other relative things they could've purchased with the same money. It's not like we don't all make judgments on relative value of items purchased by others every day of our lives. We do. It's sort of like folks that say "don't judge others." I do get the idea behind these statements, but we judge others every day and we do it subconsciously and we do it because we're wired to.
Now, I'll agree that we all judge differently due to different perspectives, but I always assume a post like this is spoken from the poster's perspective.
And really Bab, that third paragraph; I can't disagree or hate on that. I want innovation as much as the next guy. My reservations and critique of things like a $27k ship isn't unique to this title. I judge the packages in games like SotA the same way. It's more of a critique of the beast crowdfunding has become than a specific critique of any one game.
So I was talking to a helicopter pilot two days ago. He used to fly privately for a billionaire. He told me that the guy would complain about wasting money on $20 for pillow covers on the helicopter or private jet, but would put down 50k on a deposit for a vacation and then change his mind on a whim. That's 50k for an option for vacation, but for pillow covers, oh hell no.
It's like me. I am so cheap that I will skip meals if I have to pay for them (luckily where I work the food is free) if it wasn't, I'd probably skip meals. But then again, I bought a luxury car. We all do crazy things with money and their perceived value. The psychology of what we spend money on and what we don't is hilarious.
The person who blows $27k on pixels if they can afford it without putting themselves or their family in financial jeopardy then who cares, if they are blowing money earmarked for rent, well that's a problem. The line is drawn based on the repercussions.
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So I was talking to a helicopter pilot two days ago. He used to fly privately for a billionaire. He told me that the guy would complain about wasting money on $20 for pillow covers on the helicopter or private jet, but would put down 50k on a deposit for a vacation and then change his mind on a whim. That's 50k for an option for vacation, but for pillow covers, oh hell no.
It's like me. I am so cheap that I will skip meals if I have to pay for them (luckily where I work the food is free) if it wasn't, I'd probably skip meals. But then again, I bought a luxury car. We all do crazy things with money and their perceived value. The psychology of what we spend money on and what we don't is hilarious.
The person who blows $27k on pixels if they can afford it without putting themselves or their family in financial jeopardy then who cares, if they are blowing money earmarked for rent, well that's a problem. The line is drawn based on the repercussions.
Cryomatrix
It's not about the guy that actually spends the money. It's about the P2W scheme of the company that provides the guy the option.
So I was talking to a helicopter pilot two days ago. He used to fly privately for a billionaire. He told me that the guy would complain about wasting money on $20 for pillow covers on the helicopter or private jet, but would put down 50k on a deposit for a vacation and then change his mind on a whim. That's 50k for an option for vacation, but for pillow covers, oh hell no.
It's like me. I am so cheap that I will skip meals if I have to pay for them (luckily where I work the food is free) if it wasn't, I'd probably skip meals. But then again, I bought a luxury car. We all do crazy things with money and their perceived value. The psychology of what we spend money on and what we don't is hilarious.
The person who blows $27k on pixels if they can afford it without putting themselves or their family in financial jeopardy then who cares, if they are blowing money earmarked for rent, well that's a problem. The line is drawn based on the repercussions.
Cryomatrix
I've noticed that about rich people also, old money rich people, they will penny pinch to conserve and spend lots on things they really like. It's a good idea because it's so easy to bleed money on all kinds of things unless you audit your finances and weed out stuff you don't really need on a regular basis.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
I feel bad for those who are so greed of envy that people can spend such amounts on their hobbies that they resort to pretending to care about how other people spend their money.
Randoms should be thankful that people are funding 2 (not 1) unprecedented and ambitious games for as low as 20$ for them instead they complain lol
A lot of gamers want this to be made and have no problem putting their $$$upport since 2012, there's always been people complaining because that's the easiest path I guess, haters gona hate but in reality they are dying to play a game like this lol
Have you ever wondered why, after all these years, nothing close as released?
EA where's our Star Wars space epic opera or Online Universe battles?
Bioware what have you done to Mass Effect?
Blizzard where's StarCraft Online?
RockStar where's our GTA in Space?
Ubisoft where's Beyond Good & Evil 2?
If it was easy some company would have been done by now to cash in on the space whales, just like Epic's Fortnite cashed in on PUBG's battleroyall success. Yeah haters gona hate but they will still play Star Citizen in the end of it lol
As someone who has spent thousands in games before, no it's not jealousy, you just learn. In the end none of that money means anything, it's temporary bragging rights, which only turns into foolishness when the game shuts down.
I would, I need some rich friends I can sponge from.
True.
I had a friend that just sees a videogame and SPENDS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLY can, he got the max package for SC then, the 15k, he spent even more on World of Tanks, he is just unstoppable with money spending on games.
The moment he buys a 1.5k bundle on an online game time ago and he got bored after playing a few days I just poker'face.
I even tried to talk him out of why even spending 15k out of sudden he got offended (consider he had not even played before he bought that lol) , there are quite a few people out there like that, they have the money and they don't really think twice.
Hence why the offer exists.
AND I don't complain because when my PC broke down he gave me 700$ to buy a new one
Well , is an easy answer as to why he's doing that : He got to much money andso , he doesn't care, which in the end is doing more bad then good.
He got offended for trying to know why he spends so much money on things he basically, don't really care. That's an attitude of a .. frustrated guy.
I know, I know ................ to each his own, but , we are discussing so .. yeah!
About the awesome latest pack pixels , well .. it seems they already took that page down. And if is true, that wanting The Legatus Pack, you specifically need to contact them in order to buy it, then it seems that .. this particular Pack , is targeted to people like your friend , "high , respected buyers". So why not contact him and tell him about this super Pack?
All in all , now if someone is telling me that this is no where near P2W or very , very unusual for a game to ask this much , then you are a blind fan(atic).
I don't get it, is this game only for the wealthy in real life? I mean hey if that's what their going for that's fine do your thing, but I haven't seen nearly enough to want to give them 60 for the game. I think i'm missing something.
Reading interviews on people who spent tens of thousands of dollars on this game they were mostly middle class or upper middle class. One guy worked a second job for the money. Another had some extra bonus money to spend. Still another guy got together with his fellow employees who pooled their money to buy for their corp.
The fact that one guy talked to other people about it and they collectively decided to do it is even more disturbing to me than the more understandable single individual doing it quietly behind his spouse/children/parent's back
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But hey, COE got people to throw in up to $20K for just the promise of being a king, with no actual game anywhere in sight.
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/I've been a whale before, it's not worth it. Seems great now, but when the game shuts down and all the real money has dried up after it gets stale, those dropping this kind of money won't feel anything but cheated. These virtual items are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. I feel bad for those with more money than sense.
They're saving all that is gaming.
No surprise, here.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
When the game is feature and content complete, we'll judge it on its merits.
Regardless, $27k to lease pixels (Remember, you don't actually own any of these ships. CIG can change them in any way they like, and if CIG decides to shut down shop, they're gone with it) is hilariously silly.
Now, I'll agree that we all judge differently due to different perspectives, but I always assume a post like this is spoken from the poster's perspective.
And really Bab, that third paragraph; I can't disagree or hate on that. I want innovation as much as the next guy. My reservations and critique of things like a $27k ship isn't unique to this title. I judge the packages in games like SotA the same way. It's more of a critique of the beast crowdfunding has become than a specific critique of any one game.
..Cake..
It's like me. I am so cheap that I will skip meals if I have to pay for them (luckily where I work the food is free) if it wasn't, I'd probably skip meals. But then again, I bought a luxury car. We all do crazy things with money and their perceived value. The psychology of what we spend money on and what we don't is hilarious.
The person who blows $27k on pixels if they can afford it without putting themselves or their family in financial jeopardy then who cares, if they are blowing money earmarked for rent, well that's a problem. The line is drawn based on the repercussions.
Cryomatrix
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
He got offended for trying to know why he spends so much money on things he basically, don't really care. That's an attitude of a .. frustrated guy.
I know, I know ................ to each his own, but , we are discussing so .. yeah!
About the awesome latest pack pixels , well .. it seems they already took that page down. And if is true, that wanting The Legatus Pack, you specifically need to contact them in order to buy it, then it seems that .. this particular Pack , is targeted to people like your friend , "high , respected buyers". So why not contact him and tell him about this super Pack?
All in all , now if someone is telling me that this is no where near P2W or very , very unusual for a game to ask this much , then you are a blind fan(atic).
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED