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No Pre-Loading Ahead of Head Start on May 28th - Bless - MMORPG.com

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imageNo Pre-Loading Ahead of Head Start on May 28th - Bless - MMORPG.com

Bless News - If you were hoping to pre-load Bless ahead of the head start on May 28th, you're out of luck. In a very brief Q&A on the Bless Facebook page, Neowiz revealed this information as well as announced there would be two regional server groups, one each in NA and EU with the exact number of servers being subject to change based on need.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,003
    Well that sucks.
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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,766
    I wonder why this is? I don't remember the last game that wasn't able to be pre loaded.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    I wonder why this is? I don't remember the last game that wasn't able to be pre loaded.
    Maybe they're planning to keep making changes up to the last second and therefore won't need to deploy a patch that day, but can have it all inclusive in the head start client.
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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565


    I wonder why this is? I don't remember the last game that wasn't able to be pre loaded.



    Early Access games are subject to a whole lot of weird Steam rules. Pre-orders and Pre-loads being part of it.
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  • pureremedypureremedy Member UncommonPosts: 42
    edited May 2018
    So expect crashes and oveloaded servers, that will be EA day for paying customers
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  • winghaven1winghaven1 Member RarePosts: 737
    edited May 2018


    So expect crashes and oveloaded servers, that will be EA day for paying customers



    That's always the case unfortunately even with triple a mmo titles
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,000






    I wonder why this is? I don't remember the last game that wasn't able to be pre loaded.






    Early Access games are subject to a whole lot of weird Steam rules. Pre-orders and Pre-loads being part of it.



    So what decides pre-loads? Some games do other don't, I always thought it was up to the developers. Otherwise it looks like a delaying tactic as it will take everyone longer to actually get into and play the game allowing for last min hype to make more sales before actual average player reviews start rolling in. Of course I'm jaded by what some game companies do, like they did with ME:A.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,500
    edited May 2018
    Besides, if they let people preload, data miners could probably extract information and make it public before launch.

    Like say, what exactly is in the cash shop and what are the prices.
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  • IceDarkIceDark Member UncommonPosts: 207

    SBFord said:



    I wonder why this is? I don't remember the last game that wasn't able to be pre loaded.

    Maybe they're planning to keep making changes up to the last second and therefore won't need to deploy a patch that day, but can have it all inclusive in the head start client.



    As Bill said , is because of Steam rules and has nothing to do with NeoWiz. Early Access is .. Early Access.

    Official Launch however, is a different story.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,003


    So expect crashes and oveloaded servers, that will be EA day for paying customers



    That's pretty much business as usual for many mmo's on launch day. In some ways that's part of the fun.

    I would say that if people have huge issues with lag, crowded areas, servers going down, etc, etc then DON'T play an mmo on launch day/week.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,500
    edited May 2018
    IceDark said:

    SBFord said:



    I wonder why this is? I don't remember the last game that wasn't able to be pre loaded.

    Maybe they're planning to keep making changes up to the last second and therefore won't need to deploy a patch that day, but can have it all inclusive in the head start client.



    As Bill said , is because of Steam rules and has nothing to do with NeoWiz. Early Access is .. Early Access.

    Official Launch however, is a different story.
    Can you share the link to these specific Steam early access,  pre loading rules?

    I'll retract that request. Appears to be a widely known fact about Steam EA, no hard rules to be found but I found some Dev convos about how Steam uses launch day figures to determine visibility and they may want all EA titles to start on even footing in this regard.


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  • simmihisimmihi Member UncommonPosts: 709
    Or maybe there are some things which they don't want to be data mined before they get the bulk of the money :)
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  • kinidokinido Member UncommonPosts: 429
    Early Access & Pre Release games with Steam do not let you pre download. If it was a complete release of a game, ie: Far Cry or something, it would let us download it before.

    Blame Steam, has nothing to do with Bless or its people.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,003

    simmihi said:

    Or maybe there are some things which they don't want to be data mined before they get the bulk of the money :)



    Yeah, Kyleran also suggested that but I'm wondering if that is more server side? Why would that be client side?
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,000
    edited May 2018
    I don't really understand why they would go dark on the cash shop information.  Sooner or later it has to come out and saying nothing about it just draws more attention to it making it a bigger issue than it probably is.

    The only reason I can think of is waiting to see how sales go before they decide on cash shop prices.  The higher the sales the more they can charge for stuff, perhaps.

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  • freak72freak72 Member UncommonPosts: 2
    edited May 2018


    Early Access is not a pre-purchase
    Early Access is not meant to be a form of pre-purchase, but a tool to get your game in front of Steam users and gather feedback while finishing your game.

    Early Access titles must deliver a playable game or usable software to the customer at the time of purchase, while pre-purchase games are delivered at a future date.

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
    Not true, apparently:

    Q: Will Bless have 3 NA and 2 EU servers or channels? Is it 3 servers or 1 server with 3 channels for NA?

    A:  There will be two regions at the beginning of EA: NA and EU. The number of servers in each region is subject to change.


    Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/bless/news/no-pre-loading-ahead-of-head-start-on-may-28th-1000048571#567dVxohwG60hQ7u.99
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  • XingbairongXingbairong Member RarePosts: 927
    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.
    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.
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  • DaRedHawkDaRedHawk Member UncommonPosts: 1
    edited May 2018


    So expect crashes and oveloaded servers, that will be EA day for paying customers



    like your holy cow mmo from bliz, one of the worst releases ever for paying customers, you genius.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,500
    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.
    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.
    People with slow internet should seriously consider moving.

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  • eruexeeruexe Member UncommonPosts: 40
    I'm guessing they didn't understand the server question properly or is are the servers separated instead of something like BDO's channel system?

    Phew no pre-load sucks tho.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,003
    Kyleran said:
    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.
    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.
    People with slow internet should seriously consider moving.

    ;)
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    The only thing I could do is get Cable but I'm reticent to get cable as I don't really want anything to do with Cable other than internet access.

    If I could move over 20 feet I could SO get better Internet Access.
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  • LeiloniLeiloni Member RarePosts: 1,266
    edited May 2018
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
    Not true, apparently:

    Q: Will Bless have 3 NA and 2 EU servers or channels? Is it 3 servers or 1 server with 3 channels for NA?

    A:  There will be two regions at the beginning of EA: NA and EU. The number of servers in each region is subject to change.


    Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/bless/news/no-pre-loading-ahead-of-head-start-on-may-28th-1000048571#567dVxohwG60hQ7u.99
    Yea that part I found confusing. Yesterday in Discord the EU CM Penta the Panther posted in the announcements section the official answer about having 3 and 2 channels which lead most people to assume he meant megaserver. However today's Facebook posts seems to indicate it's just regular servers and not a megaserver.

    I'm inclined to think its not a megaserver because the game is designed for regular servers - you are faction locked to one faction per server, and they also lock faction creation temporarily on each server when it gets too big to balance it out. Both of those things present problems when you have a megaserver, not to mention the OwPvP focused nature of endgame makes megaservers a bit weird.

    I've also heard from other players that the backend does not support a megaserver structure. 

    It's possible any of the above has changed, however it's not likely. So I'd like to get a more clear answer on this. I think what they're probably saying is we're getting a regular server structure with 3 channels for NA and 2 for EU, but that if additional capacity was needed, they'd add more servers and not more channels. That's what most Korean MMO's do here in the West, is have a very small number of channels and limit it to that, but have standard server setups. However clarity is needed.
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