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BfA Q&A Tidbits - No Alliance High Elves, Strand of the Ancients to be Removed & More - World of War

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World of Warcraft News - During and just after yesterday's World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth Q&A with Game Director Ion Hazzikostas, a number of interesting tidbits of information about the upcoming expansion were revealed. These include the removal of the Strand of the Ancients battleground from the PvP queue, some clarification about the global cooldown changes and the news that no Alliance High Elves are coming to the game as an Allied Race.

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  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 29,627
    edited April 27
    xNIAx1 said:
    Whats with the lich king jpeg?
    Good God...did you read the article? STRAND OF THE ANCIENTS battleground is removed. That image is STRAND OF THE ANCIENTS. :| It's even in the flipping title. :|

    Obviously, you don't PvP. :D
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  • UtinniUtinni Member UncommonPosts: 509
    xNIAx1 said:
    Whats with the lich king jpeg?
    WoTLK server confirmed. Heard it here first on MMORPG.com
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  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 29,627
    Utinni said:
    xNIAx1 said:
    Whats with the lich king jpeg?
    WoTLK server confirmed. Heard it here first on MMORPG.com
    Smart aleck. :D
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  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member EpicPosts: 2,805

    Utinni said:


    xNIAx1 said:

    Whats with the lich king jpeg?


    WoTLK server confirmed. Heard it here first on MMORPG.com



    Well at least they didn't remove Strand of the Ancients
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  • SignexSignex Member UncommonPosts: 220
    Sooo it's still a possibility that Vulpera race could become a allied race?

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member EpicPosts: 5,036
    Aren't void elves just blood elves with different colored skin and some of the hairstyles having glowy effects? Aren't Highmountain Taurens just Taurens with moose antlers? Aren't Nightborne just Night elves that can't flip? Aren't the new draenei just light colored draenei with tatoos? Dat logic SE....dat logic....dont even get me started on Magah(sp) orcs (even though I'm making one for sure). I mean all the "stuff" you get could've basically been added into the character customization. Just sounds like a lazy excuse to me ontop of an already lazy concept.
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  • KalebGraysonKalebGrayson Member UncommonPosts: 309
    I'm REALLY disappointed about the High Elves. They have a faction, the Silver Covenant, lead by Vareesa Windrunner, in the alliance. In my opinion, in addition to being lazy, Ion was alluding to the fact that too many would leave the Horde to go Alliance if they had a High Elf Allied Race. Also, his rationale and examples for "changes for the overall good of the game" and "we have to think 5 years out in development" were a load of crap. Guild Summoning was a nice convenience. It did not make the world feel smaller. Ugh. People aren't just going to forget about these GCD changes. He tries to down play it but it came across to me as "deal with it". I really think they are pruning the game down to get it ready for consoles. Just my opinions...
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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 5,029
    "So how's the development coming".
    "Somewhat behind boss the SoA battleground isn't finished yet"
    "Put more people on it"
    "We don't have any boss, if you remember you downsized the team and gave us a tight budget".
    "So you are telling me it won't be finished?"
    "Afraid so boss launch will have to be delayed. We pre-sold the expansion with this in".
    "No. Not how it works these days. The deadline is fixed. Cut it."
    "Cut it?"
    "You got a hearing problem?"
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  • XingbairongXingbairong Member RarePosts: 634
    I don't mind what they do with spells. I don't think that hero spells have ever been an actual issue, at least for 95% of the classes all their specs work just fine after each pruning.
    What I do mind is however removing more BGs then they are adding... Ashran now SotA...instead of working to fix/improve them they do the most lazy thing they can do...
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  • btdtbtdt Member UncommonPosts: 367
    Funny, I distinctly remember a developer stating that mechanized vehicles is the one thing they got right in WotLK.  It is the one thing they totally got wrong.  And now, years later after people have boycotted the damn battleground, they finally remove it from the queue.

    And people think the developers are listening to them.  Yeah if you count a 3 expansion delay of brain functioning, they are listening.
  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,523
    Please wintergrasp, please.
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  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros Member EpicPosts: 2,710
    I thought it was a good stream, but I somehow missed the comment about Strand of the Ancients being removed ... interesting.  And Ion's excuse for no Alliance High Elves is kind of lame.  Taliesin makes a compelling case for why High Elves as an Alliance race would fit fine within the game.


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  • NephethNepheth Member RarePosts: 333
    edited April 27

    Albatroes said:

    Aren't void elves just blood elves with different colored skin and some of the hairstyles having glowy effects? Aren't Highmountain Taurens just Taurens with moose antlers? Aren't Nightborne just Night elves that can't flip? Aren't the new draenei just light colored draenei with tatoos? Dat logic SE....dat logic....dont even get me started on Magah(sp) orcs (even though I'm making one for sure). I mean all the "stuff" you get could've basically been added into the character customization. Just sounds like a lazy excuse to me ontop of an already lazy concept.



    No they are not. Each one of them have a lore behind them that makes them different from their original versions. But it is not the case with Blood-High Elves. Blood Elves literally the High Elves we know from the lore. The only difference is their eye color and that comes from the sunwell. Which is why we will able to create blood elves with yellow eye color in BfA. Because Sunwell is no longer corrupted with fell energy.

    Highmountain Taurens have their own tribe, zone and lore behind them. And there are enough of them in the Warcraft universe that make them vaible as an allied race.

    Nightbornes are not Night Elves. They are releated like every single elf race in the game but after more than 10.000 years they are very different from each other. Their culture, believes and power sources are complately different.

    Lightforged Draneis are Light's soldiers and they are fighting with the legion for more than a thousand years. They didn't even set foot on Azeroth till now and they are just introduced with some of the most common things about Draneis. And again there are enough of them in the game that makes them viable as an allie race. On top of that normal draneis can become Lightforged after they earned the right and complated their trial.

    You are only right about Void Elves. They are the most forced and weird race lore wise in the game. And they are very small in numbers unlike other races. They look amazing I won't deny that but it is ıgh I can't explain.

    High Elves are vey small in numbers and like I said they are literally Blood Elves. There are not even 2000 high elves in the game according to the lore. There is nothing between them that makes them different from each other. After the third war %90 of the high elves literally died and %90 of the survivors changed their names to blood elves in remembrance of their fallen brethren and no longer consider themselves high elven. That's all you can find about the difference between those 2 races.

    Yes there are a lot of people who want High Elves as an allied race but they don't care about the lore even a bit. They just wanna play blood elves without leaving the Alliance and Void Elves are not what they want and I get that. But at the same time there are a lot of players like me who are against this idea because of the lore reasons. Blizzard knows this very well and that's why they introduced Void Elves. Even though they are weird lore wise, at least they are a new race. So Blizzard can work on them however they want without destroying the lore they created years ago.
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  • DiscipledOneDiscipledOne Member UncommonPosts: 101
    This sounds like WoW at this point in our new expansion we will cut content! Wouldn’t surprise me at all if they try to put it back in the game at some point and call it, “new content”. Ion and his teams idea of wow is so much different than mine it’s incredible.
  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 2,753
    Nepheth said:

    Albatroes said:

    Aren't void elves just blood elves with different colored skin and some of the hairstyles having glowy effects? Aren't Highmountain Taurens just Taurens with moose antlers? Aren't Nightborne just Night elves that can't flip? Aren't the new draenei just light colored draenei with tatoos? Dat logic SE....dat logic....dont even get me started on Magah(sp) orcs (even though I'm making one for sure). I mean all the "stuff" you get could've basically been added into the character customization. Just sounds like a lazy excuse to me ontop of an already lazy concept.



    No they are not. Each one of them have a lore behind them that makes them different from their original versions. But it is not the case with Blood-High Elves. Blood Elves literally the High Elves we know from the lore. The only difference is their eye color and that comes from the sunwell. Which is why we will able to create blood elves with yellow eye color in BfA. Because Sunwell is no longer corrupted with fell energy.

    Highmountain Taurens have their own tribe, zone and lore behind them. And there are enough of them in the Warcraft universe that make them vaible as an allied race.

    Nightbornes are not Night Elves. They are releated like every single elf race in the game but after more than 10.000 years they are very different from each other. Their culture, believes and power sources are complately different.

    Lightforged Draneis are Light's soldiers and they are fighting with the legion for more than a thousand years. They didn't even set foot on Azeroth till now and they are just introduced with some of the most common things about Draneis. And again there are enough of them in the game that makes them viable as an allie race. On top of that normal draneis can become Lightforged after they earned the right and complated their trial.

    You are only right about Void Elves. They are the most forced and weird race lore wise in the game. And they are very small in numbers unlike other races. They look amazing I won't deny that but it is ıgh I can't explain.

    High Elves are vey small in numbers and like I said they are literally Blood Elves. There are not even 2000 high elves in the game according to the lore. There is nothing between them that makes them different from each other. After the third war %90 of the high elves literally died and %90 of the survivors changed their names to blood elves in remembrance of their fallen brethren and no longer consider themselves high elven. That's all you can find about the difference between those 2 races.

    Yes there are a lot of people who want High Elves as an allied race but they don't care about the lore even a bit. They just wanna play blood elves without leaving the Alliance and Void Elves are not what they want and I get that. But at the same time there are a lot of players like me who are against this idea because of the lore reasons. Blizzard knows this very well and that's why they introduced Void Elves. Even though they are weird lore wise, at least they are a new race. So Blizzard can work on them however they want without destroying the lore they created years ago.
    That's not his point... You can make up "lore" and create anything. His point is that it is somewhat lazy and hollow.
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 2,084
    edited April 27
    I've always wished I could ban three BG's from my queue instead of two, this is the next best thing. Always hated this BG.
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  • TsiyaTsiya Member UncommonPosts: 259
    I'm rather distressed that I can't seem to stir up more than mild curiosity for the new xpac. I loved WoW so much for so long. I've opened the launcher several times, but I know all I'll do is go tame some of the new beasts for my hunter, bum around for 2-3 days, and then never log back in. I miss it but not enough to play it I guess.

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  • jgDuffayjgDuffay Member UncommonPosts: 128
    I'm feeling that the WoW dev team seams to know better then it's consumer what they want almost always, the quality of life shit show this game has put on has made it more of a single player game than anything, would not surprise me if they add a single player functionality soon. but I guess they are doing something right .. they still have over a million concurrent players. and for me .. its just the IP that im in love with .. so of course i have already bought the x-pack ..
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  • red_cruiserred_cruiser Member UncommonPosts: 482
    I'm not going to miss Strand of the Ancients. I don't think BfA will go down as a strong expansion in the history of WoW. Legion saw a lot of success with Class identity. Faction identity isn't going to hold interest in the same way. Some of the art looks good... it's still going to be WoW.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 17,640
    Nepheth said:

    Albatroes said:

    Aren't void elves just blood elves with different colored skin and some of the hairstyles having glowy effects? Aren't Highmountain Taurens just Taurens with moose antlers? Aren't Nightborne just Night elves that can't flip? Aren't the new draenei just light colored draenei with tatoos? Dat logic SE....dat logic....dont even get me started on Magah(sp) orcs (even though I'm making one for sure). I mean all the "stuff" you get could've basically been added into the character customization. Just sounds like a lazy excuse to me ontop of an already lazy concept.



    No they are not. Each one of them have a lore behind them that makes them different from their original versions. But it is not the case with Blood-High Elves. Blood Elves literally the High Elves we know from the lore. The only difference is their eye color and that comes from the sunwell. Which is why we will able to create blood elves with yellow eye color in BfA. Because Sunwell is no longer corrupted with fell energy.

    Highmountain Taurens have their own tribe, zone and lore behind them. And there are enough of them in the Warcraft universe that make them vaible as an allied race.

    Nightbornes are not Night Elves. They are releated like every single elf race in the game but after more than 10.000 years they are very different from each other. Their culture, believes and power sources are complately different.

    Lightforged Draneis are Light's soldiers and they are fighting with the legion for more than a thousand years. They didn't even set foot on Azeroth till now and they are just introduced with some of the most common things about Draneis. And again there are enough of them in the game that makes them viable as an allie race. On top of that normal draneis can become Lightforged after they earned the right and complated their trial.

    You are only right about Void Elves. They are the most forced and weird race lore wise in the game. And they are very small in numbers unlike other races. They look amazing I won't deny that but it is ıgh I can't explain.

    High Elves are vey small in numbers and like I said they are literally Blood Elves. There are not even 2000 high elves in the game according to the lore. There is nothing between them that makes them different from each other. After the third war %90 of the high elves literally died and %90 of the survivors changed their names to blood elves in remembrance of their fallen brethren and no longer consider themselves high elven. That's all you can find about the difference between those 2 races.

    Yes there are a lot of people who want High Elves as an allied race but they don't care about the lore even a bit. They just wanna play blood elves without leaving the Alliance and Void Elves are not what they want and I get that. But at the same time there are a lot of players like me who are against this idea because of the lore reasons. Blizzard knows this very well and that's why they introduced Void Elves. Even though they are weird lore wise, at least they are a new race. So Blizzard can work on them however they want without destroying the lore they created years ago.
    Yes, within the narrative they are very different. Pragmatically speaking they're reskinned meshes and models for existing races. They're mirror races to give the other faction options. His excuse for not adding them is ridiculous.

    "Blood Elves are basically High Elves with slightly different eye color and backstory. If you want to be a light skinned Elf, that is basically a Blood Elf. Giving that to the Alliance would blur the line between factions."

    He feels that way unless you spend 30 damn dollars on a faction change to play an "Alliance High Elf". Thirty dollars!

    On top of that of all the times and issues to suddenly show deep concern over? I'm not buying it. Like the Battleground issue, I think they're taking the lazy easy road out because of all studios and publishers they can actually get away with it. Like @KalebGrayson said, it's disappointing.
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  • kabitoshinkabitoshin Member UncommonPosts: 830
    Would rather see some news about classic, forums and Reddit have been going insane. I feel like the no changes people pissed off Blizzard after one blue poster talked about classes. Ion has said vanilla will be vanilla butt yet we still have people foaming out the mouth about this subject.
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  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros Member EpicPosts: 2,710
    Torval said:
    Nepheth said:

    Albatroes said:

    Aren't void elves just blood elves with different colored skin and some of the hairstyles having glowy effects? Aren't Highmountain Taurens just Taurens with moose antlers? Aren't Nightborne just Night elves that can't flip? Aren't the new draenei just light colored draenei with tatoos? Dat logic SE....dat logic....dont even get me started on Magah(sp) orcs (even though I'm making one for sure). I mean all the "stuff" you get could've basically been added into the character customization. Just sounds like a lazy excuse to me ontop of an already lazy concept.



    No they are not. Each one of them have a lore behind them that makes them different from their original versions. But it is not the case with Blood-High Elves. Blood Elves literally the High Elves we know from the lore. The only difference is their eye color and that comes from the sunwell. Which is why we will able to create blood elves with yellow eye color in BfA. Because Sunwell is no longer corrupted with fell energy.

    Highmountain Taurens have their own tribe, zone and lore behind them. And there are enough of them in the Warcraft universe that make them vaible as an allied race.

    Nightbornes are not Night Elves. They are releated like every single elf race in the game but after more than 10.000 years they are very different from each other. Their culture, believes and power sources are complately different.

    Lightforged Draneis are Light's soldiers and they are fighting with the legion for more than a thousand years. They didn't even set foot on Azeroth till now and they are just introduced with some of the most common things about Draneis. And again there are enough of them in the game that makes them viable as an allie race. On top of that normal draneis can become Lightforged after they earned the right and complated their trial.

    You are only right about Void Elves. They are the most forced and weird race lore wise in the game. And they are very small in numbers unlike other races. They look amazing I won't deny that but it is ıgh I can't explain.

    High Elves are vey small in numbers and like I said they are literally Blood Elves. There are not even 2000 high elves in the game according to the lore. There is nothing between them that makes them different from each other. After the third war %90 of the high elves literally died and %90 of the survivors changed their names to blood elves in remembrance of their fallen brethren and no longer consider themselves high elven. That's all you can find about the difference between those 2 races.

    Yes there are a lot of people who want High Elves as an allied race but they don't care about the lore even a bit. They just wanna play blood elves without leaving the Alliance and Void Elves are not what they want and I get that. But at the same time there are a lot of players like me who are against this idea because of the lore reasons. Blizzard knows this very well and that's why they introduced Void Elves. Even though they are weird lore wise, at least they are a new race. So Blizzard can work on them however they want without destroying the lore they created years ago.
    Yes, within the narrative they are very different. Pragmatically speaking they're reskinned meshes and models for existing races. They're mirror races to give the other faction options. His excuse for not adding them is ridiculous.

    "Blood Elves are basically High Elves with slightly different eye color and backstory. If you want to be a light skinned Elf, that is basically a Blood Elf. Giving that to the Alliance would blur the line between factions."

    He feels that way unless you spend 30 damn dollars on a faction change to play an "Alliance High Elf". Thirty dollars!

    On top of that of all the times and issues to suddenly show deep concern over? I'm not buying it. Like the Battleground issue, I think they're taking the lazy easy road out because of all studios and publishers they can actually get away with it. Like @KalebGrayson said, it's disappointing.
    That's basically how I see it.  I suppose there are reasons for not wanting to add High Elves as an alliance race, but the workload is probably the only substantive one.  Lore is definitely not a good excuse because Void Elves (it's implied they are sparse in number so it makes little sense for them to be playable, yet they are).  Those people who haven't watched Taliesin's video should really do so.  As he points out, there really is no good reason not to have High Elves in the Alliance.

    I mean, how hard would it be to write in a High Elf story line where we find out that thousands of them managed to escape the Scourge but were trapped in some pocket dimension or something?  Not hard at all, as you can see; I just spat that idea out off the top of my head.  Surely the writing team for World of Warcraft can do better, but they're just choosing not to.
  • stego160stego160 Member UncommonPosts: 17
    The real reason why the high elves aren't coming to the alliance is because the horde would be out numbered. Most players on the horde side are blood elves. bring the high elves to the alliance and you will quickly see how many change to the alliance. Horde has some pretty messed up morals and the only real reason i see anyone wanting to play there side is cause the blood elves look cooler and more anime like.
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  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros Member EpicPosts: 2,710
    stego160 said:
    The real reason why the high elves aren't coming to the alliance is because the horde would be out numbered. Most players on the horde side are blood elves. bring the high elves to the alliance and you will quickly see how many change to the alliance. Horde has some pretty messed up morals and the only real reason i see anyone wanting to play there side is cause the blood elves look cooler and more anime like.
    That is an interesting point ... there may be some truth to what you say insofar as there could be less Horde players.
  • XiaokiXiaoki Member RarePosts: 3,065
    Nyctelios said:
    Nepheth said:

    Albatroes said:

    Aren't void elves just blood elves with different colored skin and some of the hairstyles having glowy effects? Aren't Highmountain Taurens just Taurens with moose antlers? Aren't Nightborne just Night elves that can't flip? Aren't the new draenei just light colored draenei with tatoos? Dat logic SE....dat logic....dont even get me started on Magah(sp) orcs (even though I'm making one for sure). I mean all the "stuff" you get could've basically been added into the character customization. Just sounds like a lazy excuse to me ontop of an already lazy concept.



    No they are not. Each one of them have a lore behind them that makes them different from their original versions. But it is not the case with Blood-High Elves. Blood Elves literally the High Elves we know from the lore. The only difference is their eye color and that comes from the sunwell. Which is why we will able to create blood elves with yellow eye color in BfA. Because Sunwell is no longer corrupted with fell energy.

    Highmountain Taurens have their own tribe, zone and lore behind them. And there are enough of them in the Warcraft universe that make them vaible as an allied race.

    Nightbornes are not Night Elves. They are releated like every single elf race in the game but after more than 10.000 years they are very different from each other. Their culture, believes and power sources are complately different.

    Lightforged Draneis are Light's soldiers and they are fighting with the legion for more than a thousand years. They didn't even set foot on Azeroth till now and they are just introduced with some of the most common things about Draneis. And again there are enough of them in the game that makes them viable as an allie race. On top of that normal draneis can become Lightforged after they earned the right and complated their trial.

    You are only right about Void Elves. They are the most forced and weird race lore wise in the game. And they are very small in numbers unlike other races. They look amazing I won't deny that but it is ıgh I can't explain.

    High Elves are vey small in numbers and like I said they are literally Blood Elves. There are not even 2000 high elves in the game according to the lore. There is nothing between them that makes them different from each other. After the third war %90 of the high elves literally died and %90 of the survivors changed their names to blood elves in remembrance of their fallen brethren and no longer consider themselves high elven. That's all you can find about the difference between those 2 races.

    Yes there are a lot of people who want High Elves as an allied race but they don't care about the lore even a bit. They just wanna play blood elves without leaving the Alliance and Void Elves are not what they want and I get that. But at the same time there are a lot of players like me who are against this idea because of the lore reasons. Blizzard knows this very well and that's why they introduced Void Elves. Even though they are weird lore wise, at least they are a new race. So Blizzard can work on them however they want without destroying the lore they created years ago.
    That's not his point... You can make up "lore" and create anything. His point is that it is somewhat lazy and hollow.
    And if Blizzard did make High Elves an Allied Race people would accuse them of being lazy.

    "They're just Blood Elves with different color eyes! Stupid lazy Blizzard"

    No matter what Blizzard does people on forums(mostly people that dont play WoW) are going to call them "lazy".
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