@mystichaze gave a list of hypotheticals to illustrate what you could expect it you never died, died a little or died a lot
To you that might be Gospel for "what the average spark will last". To me they are examples and just some maths showing what "can" be
The only thing that changed is now that everyone, regardless of Bloodline or Tribe, will have the same 12 month maximum lifespan. There were already sprit loss penalties for dying since inception.
So for you to say the average lifespan had changed from 12 months to 8 months is just... False
From the FAQ: As a result, people will typically buy a life once per year.
Now... on to the more important part of my post. What are your thoughts on his newfound willingness regarding cosmetics in a cash shop? Good move? Bad?
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@Slapshot1188, I have just read the whole conversation regarding cosmetic items. Caspian wasn't saying they were thinking about it, he was replying that the could sell them if they wanted to and that if they did it wouldn't effect it too much because everything that could be bought can be obtained in the game.
@Slapshot1188, I have just read the whole conversation regarding cosmetic items. Caspian wasn't saying they were thinking about it, he was replying that the could sell them if they wanted to and that if they did it wouldn't effect it too much because everything that could be bought can be obtained in the game.
Which part of what you wrote disagrees with what I posted?
Player suggested post launch they could sell cosmetics in a cash shop. Caspien said they could.
Prior posts indicated that all cash shop items would be gone at launch except souls and sparks. Other posters here have fought every time we suggested they keep selling cosmetics.
Caspien has now said (as far as I know for the first time) that they could do so.
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it was about 12 months max when this started.. it's still 12 months max now.. Holy Shit balls Batman! Not a damn thing has changed! News Worthy~!
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Your making it sound like he is saying they are thinking about it.
What he did was agree with another person who said they could.
*edit*
an example. "I could just eat a piece of cake." Implies I am thinking about eating cake.
"I could survive jumping off this cliff" An observation that I might survive jumping off a cliff but I wouldn't do that because it's silly.
You guys are so funny.
Read his earlier stance
The point us is that he is seemingly now saying they could do this. Where his earlier statement above clearly says NO.
I linked the actual question and answer in an earlier post. Folks can read the context and easily see the truth is not what your silly examples infer.
Lol nice try at deflection there. He previously said they won't include a cosmetic shop....
But way to ignore my actual point. He agreed with someone that they "could" include a cash shop. He also has stated on multiple occasions (yes I can also do a discord search) that they don't intend to include one.
So he has said "Yes I agree we could include a cosmetic shop but at present we have no plans to do one."
*edit* btw Don't group me with the fan boy, I am reading up on the game and interested but if it fails it's napkin off my nose. I am disagreeing with you on this point because you have taken small parts of conversations and taking them out of context to prove your point
Your making it sound like he is saying they are thinking about it.
What he did was agree with another person who said they could.
*edit*
an example. "I could just eat a piece of cake." Implies I am thinking about eating cake.
"I could survive jumping off this cliff" An observation that I might survive jumping off a cliff but I wouldn't do that because it's silly.
You guys are so funny.
Read his earlier stance
The point us is that he is seemingly now saying they could do this. Where his earlier statement above clearly says NO.
I linked the actual question and answer in an earlier post. Folks can read the context and easily see the truth is not what your silly examples infer.
Well that puts the door open to a lot of things they could sell that are not in fact "Craftable" items.
Noble Bloodline
Soul Binding Gear/Items (AKA: Family Heirloom)
Additional Skill Slots (Allowing Souls to have a Dual Focus, or more)
Those are just a few off the top of my head.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Your making it sound like he is saying they are thinking about it.
What he did was agree with another person who said they could.
*edit*
an example. "I could just eat a piece of cake." Implies I am thinking about eating cake.
"I could survive jumping off this cliff" An observation that I might survive jumping off a cliff but I wouldn't do that because it's silly.
You guys are so funny.
Read his earlier stance
The point us is that he is seemingly now saying they could do this. Where his earlier statement above clearly says NO.
I linked the actual question and answer in an earlier post. Folks can read the context and easily see the truth is not what your silly examples infer.
Well that puts the door open to a lot of things they could sell that are not in fact "Craftable" items.
Noble Bloodline
Soul Binding Gear/Items (AKA: Family Heirloom)
Additional Skill Slots (Allowing Souls to have a Dual Focus, or more)
Those are just a few off the top of my head.
I don’t think they are ready for those yet. Never say never though. But I think selling dyes and frilly hats has always seemed like a natural match with the RPG community.
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Your making it sound like he is saying they are thinking about it.
What he did was agree with another person who said they could.
*edit*
an example. "I could just eat a piece of cake." Implies I am thinking about eating cake.
"I could survive jumping off this cliff" An observation that I might survive jumping off a cliff but I wouldn't do that because it's silly.
You guys are so funny.
Read his earlier stance
The point us is that he is seemingly now saying they could do this. Where his earlier statement above clearly says NO.
I linked the actual question and answer in an earlier post. Folks can read the context and easily see the truth is not what your silly examples infer.
Well that puts the door open to a lot of things they could sell that are not in fact "Craftable" items.
Noble Bloodline
Soul Binding Gear/Items (AKA: Family Heirloom)
Additional Skill Slots (Allowing Souls to have a Dual Focus, or more)
Those are just a few off the top of my head.
I don’t think they are ready for those yet. Never say never though. But I think selling dyes and frilly hats has always seemed like a natural match with the RPG community.
Depends.. if they have PGC system set up for dyes and hats.. selling them in the 'store' would be kinda rude, don't you think?
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Your making it sound like he is saying they are thinking about it.
What he did was agree with another person who said they could.
*edit*
an example. "I could just eat a piece of cake." Implies I am thinking about eating cake.
"I could survive jumping off this cliff" An observation that I might survive jumping off a cliff but I wouldn't do that because it's silly.
You guys are so funny.
Read his earlier stance
The point us is that he is seemingly now saying they could do this. Where his earlier statement above clearly says NO.
I linked the actual question and answer in an earlier post. Folks can read the context and easily see the truth is not what your silly examples infer.
Lol nice try at deflection there. He previously said they won't include a cosmetic shop....
But way to ignore my actual point. He agreed with someone that they "could" include a cash shop. He also has stated on multiple occasions (yes I can also do a discord search) that they don't intend to include one.
So he has said "Yes I agree we could include a cosmetic shop but at present we have no plans to do one."
*edit* btw Don't group me with the fan boy, I am reading up on the game and interested but if it fails it's napkin off my nose. I am disagreeing with you on this point because you have taken small parts of conversations and taking them out of context to prove your point
That's the trouble, his replies are ambiguous thereby leaving the issue open to private interpretation.
Here is one example from Saga of Lucima of how it should be done.
"Your monthly fee gives you access to 100% of the game.No locked content hidden behind pricing points, no micro-transactions required to give you access to a mailbox or chat abilities, no loot boxes, no cosmetic store…just a flat monthly fee to play the game. "
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Yeah see that unknown is what kills it. Some may only live 3 months, but more than likely 8, and 12 max if your lucky? What the actual f**k? What happens if it's only 3 months? I imagine lots of rage quite over this once realty sets in for some people. So now your subscription is RNG based, congrats backers /golfclap. I can't believe so many people bought into this idea, then again nothing surprises me anymore these days.
Yeah see that unknown is what kills it. Some may only live 3 months, but more than likely 8, and 12 max if your lucky? What the actual f**k? What happens if it's only 3 months? I imagine lots of rage quite over this once realty sets in for some people. So now your subscription is RNG based, congrats backers /golfclap. I can't believe so many people bought into this idea, then again nothing surprises me anymore these days.
If it only lasts 3 months, you paid an average of $12.00 a month to play the game.
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To look at and compare CoE to other games out there is really not a fair assessment since many aspects of the game have never been attempted with the current technology of today. Caspain has always said that the type of gameplay CoE was offering wasn't going to be attractive to everyone and that they are focused more on an individual demographic of game players rather than the entire gaming community.
It is of course a fair assessment. That many aspects of the game haven't been attempted with current technology doesn't make them inherently beyond comparison or critique simply due to their novelty. Further, that a game is designed for a niche audience doesn't guarantee that all aspects of the game will appeal to that niche, so that even those attracted to the concept in general may still have issues of their own to raise.
What Caspian wants to do is all fine and well, but it may not be fully compatible with what must be done to make the game an enduring success.
Yeah see that unknown is what kills it. Some may only live 3 months, but more than likely 8, and 12 max if your lucky? What the actual f**k? What happens if it's only 3 months? I imagine lots of rage quite over this once realty sets in for some people. So now your subscription is RNG based, congrats backers /golfclap. I can't believe so many people bought into this idea, then again nothing surprises me anymore these days.
It's based on the amount of times you are killed I believe. So everyone starts at 12 months and every death (with no other modifier) is -2 days.
I'm sure that's right but I need to keep reading up so if anyone knows better please say
Yeah see that unknown is what kills it. Some may only live 3 months, but more than likely 8, and 12 max if your lucky? What the actual f**k? What happens if it's only 3 months? I imagine lots of rage quite over this once realty sets in for some people. So now your subscription is RNG based, congrats backers /golfclap. I can't believe so many people bought into this idea, then again nothing surprises me anymore these days.
It's based on the amount of times you are killed I believe. So everyone starts at 12 months and every death (with no other modifier) is -2 days.
I'm sure that's right but I need to keep reading up so if anyone knows better please say
I believe the amount of life you lose is variable with 2 days being the lowest.
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Yeah see that unknown is what kills it. Some may only live 3 months, but more than likely 8, and 12 max if your lucky? What the actual f**k? What happens if it's only 3 months? I imagine lots of rage quite over this once realty sets in for some people. So now your subscription is RNG based, congrats backers /golfclap. I can't believe so many people bought into this idea, then again nothing surprises me anymore these days.
It's based on the amount of times you are killed I believe. So everyone starts at 12 months and every death (with no other modifier) is -2 days.
I'm sure that's right but I need to keep reading up so if anyone knows better please say
I believe the amount of life you lose is variable with 2 days being the lowest.
Yeah I suppose if your character made a career killing kings and nobles their lifespan might be in weeks.
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Yeah see that unknown is what kills it. Some may only live 3 months, but more than likely 8, and 12 max if your lucky? What the actual f**k? What happens if it's only 3 months? I imagine lots of rage quite over this once realty sets in for some people. So now your subscription is RNG based, congrats backers /golfclap. I can't believe so many people bought into this idea, then again nothing surprises me anymore these days.
An expensive subscription fee ranging from 3 to 12 months looks like. Instead of the usual $15 a month fee charged by most MMO's. He compares the fee to going to the movies when it should be compared to other MMO's mostly charges to play IMO. It's not lets go to the movies or play an MMO.
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To you that might be Gospel for "what the average spark will last". To me they are examples and just some maths showing what "can" be
The only thing that changed is now that everyone, regardless of Bloodline or Tribe, will have the same 12 month maximum lifespan. There were already sprit loss penalties for dying since inception.
So for you to say the average lifespan had changed from 12 months to 8 months is just... False
8 months average now. Have fun.
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Even in this statement Caspian writes "It is STILL..."
You phrased it as the average going from 12 months down to 8 months and being the result of a change
Is there a source or some quote you have that supports that statement?
I'll wait
As a result, people will typically buy a life once per year.
Now... on to the more important part of my post. What are your thoughts on his newfound willingness regarding cosmetics in a cash shop? Good move? Bad?
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Buying a spark if life every 8 months would typically be once per year
Now how about those cosmetics?
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Not "Emoji Movie" Meh where there are other emotions involved mind you.
I'm the actual meh
If people want to spend money on special colors or designs, it doesn't bother me
Player suggested post launch they could sell cosmetics in a cash shop. Caspien said they could.
Prior posts indicated that all cash shop items would be gone at launch except souls and sparks. Other posters here have fought every time we suggested they keep selling cosmetics.
Caspien has now said (as far as I know for the first time) that they could do so.
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What he did was agree with another person who said they could.
*edit*
an example.
"I could just eat a piece of cake." Implies I am thinking about eating cake.
"I could survive jumping off this cliff" An observation that I might survive jumping off a cliff but I wouldn't do that because it's silly.
Read his earlier stance
The point us is that he is seemingly now saying they could do this. Where his earlier statement above clearly says NO.
I linked the actual question and answer in an earlier post. Folks can read the context and easily see the truth is not what your silly examples infer.
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He previously said they won't include a cosmetic shop....
But way to ignore my actual point.
He agreed with someone that they "could" include a cash shop. He also has stated on multiple occasions (yes I can also do a discord search) that they don't intend to include one.
So he has said
"Yes I agree we could include a cosmetic shop but at present we have no plans to do one."
*edit*
btw
Don't group me with the fan boy, I am reading up on the game and interested but if it fails it's napkin off my nose.
I am disagreeing with you on this point because you have taken small parts of conversations and taking them out of context to prove your point
Those are just a few off the top of my head.
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PS: I feel compelled to point out that was your 666th post.
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Here is one example from Saga of Lucima of how it should be done.
"Your monthly fee gives you access to 100% of the game.No locked content hidden behind pricing points, no micro-transactions required to give you access to a mailbox or chat abilities, no loot boxes, no cosmetic store…just a flat monthly fee to play the game. "
Now that's clarity.
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Is that really so bad?
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What Caspian wants to do is all fine and well, but it may not be fully compatible with what must be done to make the game an enduring success.
I'm sure that's right but I need to keep reading up so if anyone knows better please say
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