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A Vermintide MMO, Thoughts?
JeffSpicoli
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So iv really putting some time into Verminitde 2 , I'v never had any interest in Co-op games like this but Vermintide 2 really has me hooked. The combat feels tight and the weapons really have a sense of weight. The atmosphere /graphics of the game is fantastic and Warhammers lore,setting ect ect make Azeroth and WOW's universe/lore feel childish when comparing the 2 (They are the 2 biggest D & D orcs and elves franchises in gaming afterall, in case you are wondering why i compared). Vermintide/Warhammer feels very dark and mature where as Blizzard creates more of a bubble gum / Disney esque atmosphere
Vermintide 2 would make a fantastic Action MMO in my opinion. Yes the project would be a MASSIVE undertaking for what i understand to be a very small and indie studio in fat shark but i think a potential game changer in the MMO world could be accomplished if they were to take everything about V2 and drop it into a MMO Open world format.
Thoughts ?
and yes i know warhammer online was released in 2008, i know the history of that game
Vermintide 2 would make a fantastic Action MMO in my opinion. Yes the project would be a MASSIVE undertaking for what i understand to be a very small and indie studio in fat shark but i think a potential game changer in the MMO world could be accomplished if they were to take everything about V2 and drop it into a MMO Open world format.
Thoughts ?
and yes i know warhammer online was released in 2008, i know the history of that game
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Yes it is a dead game but it also works as a good indication of the general markets interest in a Warhammer MMO.
This have been a good conversation
The production time and costs would also end up a lot larger so financially its lot more risk and not so much reward for making such a game.
Yes i like the idea of co op gaming but the game has to be good,just simply being co op means nothing.
Ok so i went to look at Vermintide 2.Yea those Warhammer games look pretty good but darn expensive.
Thing is for me after having played thousands of games,i need a certain flair and uniqueness and creativity.
Board and sword stuff is not fun for me anymore and neither are pew pew guns.I still can get into a sniper gun once a while abut not too much. I am looking for games with cool abilities,one the reasons why i enjoyed Dishonored,it was a different kind of combat.
The only ability i see games doing now a days are somersaults,i lol@ that is the limit to which developers creativity ends.You see even this vermintide 1-2,yea it has a dark nice looking atmosphere but having played Quake and Unreal for years,this is nothing special to me and with less exciting weapons.
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That said, history is not on it's side. Most Warhammer or 40k games have been pretty terrible and Games Workshop themselves are incredibly badly run and have completely mismanaged their IPs and games right from the start.
I've not played either of the Vermintide games personally. I'm generally not a fan of these online coop style games anyway, but my preferences for races in Warhammer excludes skaven and empire, so the whole setting of the first one put me off. Why would you pick humans and rats?!?! Warhammer has the best orcs (in my opinion) out of every fantasy IP, but even beyond that you have the option for tons of different elven factions, great chaos stuff, a few different dwarven factions, lizardmen, undead, vampires etc....humans and rats are pretty much as boring as you can get!
I actually like that Vermintide is a PvE Coop game. A nice change from the common "AHHHHH KILL EVERY OTHER PLAYER!" games.
The markets general reception for MMO's at this point isn't booming, and making it Warhammer would further limit the audience. But who knows maybe something like that would explode right now.
I mean, I know we have mobas which somewhat touch on this demographic, but they're all quite similar and aren't what I'm thinking about.
I'm thinking of something like Battlefield or Call of Duty, but make it 3rd person and fantasy. 50v50 maps (or 50v50v50 if possible!), team deathmatch, capture the flag, last man standing, king of the hill, attack and defence etc. You can put in progression mechanics much like modern shooters which are somewhat horizontal already, ensuring that there is a hook to keep playing whilst still allowing newbies to be competitive. Give a proper character creator to the game to help attract a wider audience. I'm basically thinking of WAR's scenarios but much better!
Combat wise, probably go action combat with maybe 12 skills per class to keep it engaging and skilful whilst still accessible to the masses.
So, take that concept and apply the Warhammer IP. Two factions, order and destruction. Tons of races to choose from on each side, loads of possible classes within each race and the IP would allow you to keep adding more and more. In my dreams, I'm imaging creating a badass orc with spikey armour and a massive 2h axe, charging across a field with 20 other melee fighters from evil races, supported by healers and ranged. Fighting through the streets of altdorf, or the wooden ramshackle villages of the orcs, or the temples of the lizardmen. You can add "vehicles" in the form of horses, boars, spiders, and pegasus' for personal transportation, or things like stegadons, chariots, arachnaroks and dragons to take the place of tanks and planes. You can even have artillery as there is plenty of that in the lore. For ranged, you have the standard bows and crossbows, but also plenty of muskets, blunderbusses and cannons, not to mention the large variety of magic that exists.
Yup
I need that game