Gambling is too deeply rooted in games for it to be "fixed". If there was a time to get rid of it it would've been when it began but now way too many people make too much money for it to ever go away.
I can't see it doing anything at all, particularly as it's restricted to physical copies. But, it's still forwards momentum in the fight against predatory monetisation of games, so can't complain yet.
On a positive note, all the "Save the Children" advocates can rest at ease as 91% of children do not have access to make in-game purchases based on the report.
Ultimately, the labeling does very little apart from appease government who are completely out of the loop. Remember those warnings about Online play affecting the rating? No? Yeah, well it's there.
LOL does anyone even pay attention to ESRB anymore? Isn't all online content not rated anyway?
So are you saying you are a parent but you don't look at ratings for movies, music, games but perhaps evaluate them for your kid(s) in some other way?
@Sovrath I don't just go on a simple one letter 'Rating' to determine if content is appropriate for my child. The idea of that is at best completely idiotic and lazy. There are an incredibly amount of PG-13 movies that are not appropriate for 13 year olds in my opinion. And there are an incredible amount of 'T' games not appropriate for many 13 year olds. These ratings are stupid to begin with because each parent has a different standard for what content their child should be exposed to at what point in their life. It isn't a parent's duty to look at a friggin label on a box, it's their responsibility to know what they are exposing their kid to. That is a great value is Game Review sites and a great reason why if a movie looks questionable, I would watch it first. IMDB actually has a great little community rating section for each movie that users provide feedback of what actual content is in movies that might be questionable. It's a great tool for parents and a great way for parents to help other parents. I would at least do my due diligence past looking at a silly label that industry leaders (who are profiting from the sale) are slapping on a game.
If parents are concerned about content and ratings and now gambling in games. PARENTS need to step up and stop being so unbelievably lazy and naive and start monitoring what content reaches their children and what financial damage their children have the potential to unleash on them.
Parents calling for government regulation and more rating labels are the laziest pieces of crap around. If it's that important to parents, maybe they should spend more than 1 second deciding if any media is appropriate for their child.
If I want a world in which people can purchase success and power with cash, I'll play Real Life. Keep Virtual Worlds Virtual!
LOL does anyone even pay attention to ESRB anymore? Isn't all online content not rated anyway?
So are you saying you are a parent but you don't look at ratings for movies, music, games but perhaps evaluate them for your kid(s) in some other way?
@Sovrath I don't just go on a simple one letter 'Rating' to determine if content is appropriate for my child. The idea of that is at best completely idiotic and lazy. There are an incredibly amount of PG-13 movies that are not appropriate for 13 year olds in my opinion. And there are an incredible amount of 'T' games not appropriate for many 13 year olds. These ratings are stupid to begin with because each parent has a different standard for what content their child should be exposed to at what point in their life. It isn't a parent's duty to look at a friggin label on a box, it's their responsibility to know what they are exposing their kid to. That is a great value is Game Review sites and a great reason why if a movie looks questionable, I would watch it first. IMDB actually has a great little community rating section for each movie that users provide feedback of what actual content is in movies that might be questionable. It's a great tool for parents and a great way for parents to help other parents. I would at least do my due diligence past looking at a silly label that industry leaders (who are profiting from the sale) are slapping on a game.
If parents are concerned about content and ratings and now gambling in games. PARENTS need to step up and stop being so unbelievably lazy and naive and start monitoring what content reaches their children and what financial damage their children have the potential to unleash on them.
Parents calling for government regulation and more rating labels are the laziest pieces of crap around. If it's that important to parents, maybe they should spend more than 1 second deciding if any media is appropriate for their child.
I think the problem with your approach is time.
If you're working, the time you can spend on your child is limited to begin with. I honestly believe that limited time should be spent on more important matters like being together with the child, doing things together with him, making him some good home-cooked food, taking him to places, trips, and to occasionally visit relatives.
Time is a limited commodity. Parents who want to have ratings and other easy means to judge how appropriate something is for their children aren't necessarily lazy. They're adults who understand their own limitations and don't want to trade too much of good time with the child into time that's spent controlling the child.
LOL does anyone even pay attention to ESRB anymore? Isn't all online content not rated anyway?
So are you saying you are a parent but you don't look at ratings for movies, music, games but perhaps evaluate them for your kid(s) in some other way?
@Sovrath I don't just go on a simple one letter 'Rating' to determine if content is appropriate for my child. The idea of that is at best completely idiotic and lazy. There are an incredibly amount of PG-13 movies that are not appropriate for 13 year olds in my opinion. And there are an incredible amount of 'T' games not appropriate for many 13 year olds. These ratings are stupid to begin with because each parent has a different standard for what content their child should be exposed to at what point in their life. It isn't a parent's duty to look at a friggin label on a box, it's their responsibility to know what they are exposing their kid to. That is a great value is Game Review sites and a great reason why if a movie looks questionable, I would watch it first. IMDB actually has a great little community rating section for each movie that users provide feedback of what actual content is in movies that might be questionable. It's a great tool for parents and a great way for parents to help other parents. I would at least do my due diligence past looking at a silly label that industry leaders (who are profiting from the sale) are slapping on a game.
If parents are concerned about content and ratings and now gambling in games. PARENTS need to step up and stop being so unbelievably lazy and naive and start monitoring what content reaches their children and what financial damage their children have the potential to unleash on them.
Parents calling for government regulation and more rating labels are the laziest pieces of crap around. If it's that important to parents, maybe they should spend more than 1 second deciding if any media is appropriate for their child.
I think the problem with your approach is time.
If you're working, the time you can spend on your child is limited to begin with. I honestly believe that limited time should be spent on more important matters like being together with the child, doing things together with him, making him some good home-cooked food, taking him to places, trips, and to occasionally visit relatives.
Time is a limited commodity. Parents who want to have ratings and other easy means to judge how appropriate something is for their children aren't necessarily lazy. They're adults who understand their own limitations and don't want to trade too much of good time with the child into time that's spent controlling the child.
Yes, but for parents who value time with their children might ask what they've been doing, how they are enjoying it, etc. and maybe even take interest enough to invest some of their own free time to learn about what it is that they are doing so they can have meaningful conversations with them. Reality is that in many cases that doesn't happen. Where do you think that parents spend the majority of their free time? With their kids? I'm sure there is a study on that, but my guess is no.
My kids are part of the 9% who do have access to buy. They don't, though, because we DO communicate. In fact, I think we've had less than a handful of cases in the past where my kid bought something without permission, in over a decade and 4 kids.
LOL does anyone even pay attention to ESRB anymore? Isn't all online content not rated anyway?
So are you saying you are a parent but you don't look at ratings for movies, music, games but perhaps evaluate them for your kid(s) in some other way?
@Sovrath I don't just go on a simple one letter 'Rating' to determine if content is appropriate for my child. The idea of that is at best completely idiotic and lazy. There are an incredibly amount of PG-13 movies that are not appropriate for 13 year olds in my opinion. And there are an incredible amount of 'T' games not appropriate for many 13 year olds. These ratings are stupid to begin with because each parent has a different standard for what content their child should be exposed to at what point in their life. It isn't a parent's duty to look at a friggin label on a box, it's their responsibility to know what they are exposing their kid to. That is a great value is Game Review sites and a great reason why if a movie looks questionable, I would watch it first. IMDB actually has a great little community rating section for each movie that users provide feedback of what actual content is in movies that might be questionable. It's a great tool for parents and a great way for parents to help other parents. I would at least do my due diligence past looking at a silly label that industry leaders (who are profiting from the sale) are slapping on a game.
If parents are concerned about content and ratings and now gambling in games. PARENTS need to step up and stop being so unbelievably lazy and naive and start monitoring what content reaches their children and what financial damage their children have the potential to unleash on them.
Parents calling for government regulation and more rating labels are the laziest pieces of crap around. If it's that important to parents, maybe they should spend more than 1 second deciding if any media is appropriate for their child.
First of all, that's great that you do that and in my opinion that's how it should be done.
Having said that, I don't think having a rating takes anything away from the parents and if anything can be considered a "first step".
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I'm kind of late to the thread, but thought that I would chime in on the subject. Adding a warning label to the game simply wont matter and it only shows that the the Entertainment Software Ratings Board is looking out for the best interest of developers of games with MTX mechanism and not the consumer. For that warning label to matter and to get people to understand what it means is that any game that has those MTX type of mechanisms needs to have the ESRB ratings changed from T Teen,M Mature to AO which is the more accurate rating. Because titles that are rated AO ADULTS ONLY Content suitable only for adults ages 18 and up. May include prolonged scenes of intense violence, graphic sexual content and/or gambling with real currency.
LOL does anyone even pay attention to ESRB anymore? Isn't all online content not rated anyway?
So are you saying you are a parent but you don't look at ratings for movies, music, games but perhaps evaluate them for your kid(s) in some other way?
@Sovrath I don't just go on a simple one letter 'Rating' to determine if content is appropriate for my child. The idea of that is at best completely idiotic and lazy. There are an incredibly amount of PG-13 movies that are not appropriate for 13 year olds in my opinion. And there are an incredible amount of 'T' games not appropriate for many 13 year olds. These ratings are stupid to begin with because each parent has a different standard for what content their child should be exposed to at what point in their life. It isn't a parent's duty to look at a friggin label on a box, it's their responsibility to know what they are exposing their kid to. That is a great value is Game Review sites and a great reason why if a movie looks questionable, I would watch it first. IMDB actually has a great little community rating section for each movie that users provide feedback of what actual content is in movies that might be questionable. It's a great tool for parents and a great way for parents to help other parents. I would at least do my due diligence past looking at a silly label that industry leaders (who are profiting from the sale) are slapping on a game.
If parents are concerned about content and ratings and now gambling in games. PARENTS need to step up and stop being so unbelievably lazy and naive and start monitoring what content reaches their children and what financial damage their children have the potential to unleash on them.
Parents calling for government regulation and more rating labels are the laziest pieces of crap around. If it's that important to parents, maybe they should spend more than 1 second deciding if any media is appropriate for their child.
I think the problem with your approach is time.
If you're working, the time you can spend on your child is limited to begin with. I honestly believe that limited time should be spent on more important matters like being together with the child, doing things together with him, making him some good home-cooked food, taking him to places, trips, and to occasionally visit relatives.
Time is a limited commodity. Parents who want to have ratings and other easy means to judge how appropriate something is for their children aren't necessarily lazy. They're adults who understand their own limitations and don't want to trade too much of good time with the child into time that's spent controlling the child.
Yes, but for parents who value time with their children might ask what they've been doing, how they are enjoying it, etc. and maybe even take interest enough to invest some of their own free time to learn about what it is that they are doing so they can have meaningful conversations with them. Reality is that in many cases that doesn't happen. Where do you think that parents spend the majority of their free time? With their kids? I'm sure there is a study on that, but my guess is no.
My kids are part of the 9% who do have access to buy. They don't, though, because we DO communicate. In fact, I think we've had less than a handful of cases in the past where my kid bought something without permission, in over a decade and 4 kids.
To be honest, at least from my perspective, parents certainly DO spend most of their time on activities relating to their children.
No generation of parents has ever been able to completely control what their children see and do. No generation has ever even been able to stay educated on everything their kids do or see.
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I can't see it doing anything at all, particularly as it's restricted to physical copies. But, it's still forwards momentum in the fight against predatory monetisation of games, so can't complain yet.
Ultimately, the labeling does very little apart from appease government who are completely out of the loop. Remember those warnings about Online play affecting the rating? No? Yeah, well it's there.
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@Sovrath I don't just go on a simple one letter 'Rating' to determine if content is appropriate for my child. The idea of that is at best completely idiotic and lazy. There are an incredibly amount of PG-13 movies that are not appropriate for 13 year olds in my opinion. And there are an incredible amount of 'T' games not appropriate for many 13 year olds. These ratings are stupid to begin with because each parent has a different standard for what content their child should be exposed to at what point in their life. It isn't a parent's duty to look at a friggin label on a box, it's their responsibility to know what they are exposing their kid to. That is a great value is Game Review sites and a great reason why if a movie looks questionable, I would watch it first. IMDB actually has a great little community rating section for each movie that users provide feedback of what actual content is in movies that might be questionable. It's a great tool for parents and a great way for parents to help other parents. I would at least do my due diligence past looking at a silly label that industry leaders (who are profiting from the sale) are slapping on a game.
If parents are concerned about content and ratings and now gambling in games. PARENTS need to step up and stop being so unbelievably lazy and naive and start monitoring what content reaches their children and what financial damage their children have the potential to unleash on them.
Parents calling for government regulation and more rating labels are the laziest pieces of crap around. If it's that important to parents, maybe they should spend more than 1 second deciding if any media is appropriate for their child.
If I want a world in which people can purchase success and power with cash, I'll play Real Life. Keep Virtual Worlds Virtual!
If you're working, the time you can spend on your child is limited to begin with. I honestly believe that limited time should be spent on more important matters like being together with the child, doing things together with him, making him some good home-cooked food, taking him to places, trips, and to occasionally visit relatives.
Time is a limited commodity. Parents who want to have ratings and other easy means to judge how appropriate something is for their children aren't necessarily lazy. They're adults who understand their own limitations and don't want to trade too much of good time with the child into time that's spent controlling the child.
Yes, but for parents who value time with their children might ask what they've been doing, how they are enjoying it, etc. and maybe even take interest enough to invest some of their own free time to learn about what it is that they are doing so they can have meaningful conversations with them. Reality is that in many cases that doesn't happen. Where do you think that parents spend the majority of their free time? With their kids? I'm sure there is a study on that, but my guess is no.
My kids are part of the 9% who do have access to buy. They don't, though, because we DO communicate. In fact, I think we've had less than a handful of cases in the past where my kid bought something without permission, in over a decade and 4 kids.
Crazkanuk
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Azarelos - 90 Hunter - Emerald
Durnzig - 90 Paladin - Emerald
Demonicron - 90 Death Knight - Emerald Dream - US
Tankinpain - 90 Monk - Azjol-Nerub - US
Brindell - 90 Warrior - Emerald Dream - US
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Having said that, I don't think having a rating takes anything away from the parents and if anything can be considered a "first step".
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No generation of parents has ever been able to completely control what their children see and do. No generation has ever even been able to stay educated on everything their kids do or see.