A Glimpse at Medieval Life - The RPG Files - MMORPG.com

SBFord · February 2018

A Glimpse at Medieval Life - The RPG Files - MMORPG.com

If you’ve ever wondered what life would be like if you lived in the middle ages, Warhorse Studios has your answer. Kingdom Come: Deliverance is a sprawling open-world RPG in the vein of Skyrim but one that casts fantasy to the side in exchange for realism. It’s an amazingly detailed look at Bohemia in the year 1403, but does this commoner’s tale stack up to the open-world RPGs it’s trying to emulate?

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Jinxys · February 2018

eww invisible walls

Eldrach · February 2018

What i'm looking forward to with this game is the mod support. There will most definitely be an "arcade combat" mod which lets you do some blade dancing and unofficial bug fix patches aswell

MaxBacon · February 2018

The day-one patch was already pre-built on the steam release so sadly the performance madness and the very buggy nature of things will need to be mitigated in upcoming patches.

Sovrath · February 2018

Zamuro said:

yea invisible walls tons of bugs and 1st person only... how more can they fuck up with absolutely simple things

1st person only isn't a fuck up. Its' a decision. And one that I can get behind. Now, invisible walls aren't necessary and bugs are a problem.

bartoni33 · February 2018

Sovrath said:

Zamuro said:

yea invisible walls tons of bugs and 1st person only... how more can they fuck up with absolutely simple things

1st person only isn't a fuck up. Its' a decision. And one that I can get behind. Now, invisible walls aren't necessary and bugs are a problem.

Choices. I like choices.

I choose 3rd person. I am still going to play it (waiting on my key) but will not enjoy it as much.

darren28 · February 2018

Sovrath said:

Zamuro said:

yea invisible walls tons of bugs and 1st person only... how more can they fuck up with absolutely simple things

1st person only isn't a fuck up. Its' a decision. And one that I can get behind. Now, invisible walls aren't necessary and bugs are a problem.

1st person only is a fuck up.

Viper482 · February 2018

I guess some people don't want to be immersed in the world....

bartoni33 · February 2018

Oh god it gets worse.

Apparently their is no quicksave

or saving on exit

. Only saves when you drink something and when you sleep.

THAT is something that should have been made perfectly clear before launch.

I'm keeping hopes up (downloading now) but man that looks bad.

Sovrath · February 2018

darren28 said:

Sovrath said:

Zamuro said:

yea invisible walls tons of bugs and 1st person only... how more can they fuck up with absolutely simple things

1st person only isn't a fuck up. Its' a decision. And one that I can get behind. Now, invisible walls aren't necessary and bugs are a problem.

1st person only is a fuck up.

Yes, because the world revolves around your tastes.

Sovrath · February 2018

bartoni33 said:

Oh god it gets worse.

Apparently their is no quicksave or saving on exit . Only saves when you drink something and when you sleep.

THAT is something that should have been made perfectly clear before launch.

I'm keeping hopes up (downloading now) but man that looks bad.

Is it clear in game?

I mean, there's really no issue. As long as it's made clear in game then drink something and log out.

Why does it have to be a drop down menu option or a big button?

bartoni33 · February 2018

Sovrath said:

bartoni33 said:

Oh god it gets worse.

Apparently their is no quicksave or saving on exit . Only saves when you drink something and when you sleep.

THAT is something that should have been made perfectly clear before launch.

I'm keeping hopes up (downloading now) but man that looks bad.

Is it clear in game?

I mean, there's really no issue. As long as it's made clear in game then drink something and log out.

Why does it have to be a drop down menu option or a big button?

Because if I had known this I might not have bought it. Doesn't matter if it tells you AFTER purchase.

I'm sure one of the first mods will be a weightless/alcohol-less Save Schnapps.

cjmarsh · February 2018

bartoni33 said:

Sovrath said:

bartoni33 said:

Oh god it gets worse.

Apparently their is no quicksave or saving on exit . Only saves when you drink something and when you sleep.

THAT is something that should have been made perfectly clear before launch.

I'm keeping hopes up (downloading now) but man that looks bad.

Is it clear in game?

I mean, there's really no issue. As long as it's made clear in game then drink something and log out.

Why does it have to be a drop down menu option or a big button?

Because if I had known this I might not have bought it. Doesn't matter if it tells you AFTER purchase.

I'm sure one of the first mods will be a weightless/alcohol-less Save Schnapps.

You really wouldn't buy a game because of the saving method?

SepellBade · February 2018

I agree. I have limited time and a quick save option is essential. maybe someone can mod one in.

bartoni33 · February 2018

cjmarsh said:

bartoni33 said:

Sovrath said:

bartoni33 said:

Oh god it gets worse.

Apparently their is no quicksave or saving on exit . Only saves when you drink something and when you sleep.

THAT is something that should have been made perfectly clear before launch.

I'm keeping hopes up (downloading now) but man that looks bad.

Is it clear in game?

I mean, there's really no issue. As long as it's made clear in game then drink something and log out.

Why does it have to be a drop down menu option or a big button?

Because if I had known this I might not have bought it. Doesn't matter if it tells you AFTER purchase.

I'm sure one of the first mods will be a weightless/alcohol-less Save Schnapps.

You really wouldn't buy a game because of the saving method?

See post below yours to reasons why.

I cannot fathom why Devs find this hard to accept. Gamers are OK with Devs controlling in-game aspects. Saving is not an in-game aspect. Saving has zero (0) impact in a SP game. Saving does not equal cheating. Saving equals "I want to quit playing now but I do not want to repeat content I have already experienced". Besides, if I DO want to "save scum" it is my right as a paying customer to do so. My fucking game, my fucking rules.

/rant off

Sovrath · February 2018

bartoni33 said:

Sovrath said:

bartoni33 said:

Oh god it gets worse.

Apparently their is no quicksave or saving on exit . Only saves when you drink something and when you sleep.

THAT is something that should have been made perfectly clear before launch.

I'm keeping hopes up (downloading now) but man that looks bad.

Is it clear in game?

I mean, there's really no issue. As long as it's made clear in game then drink something and log out.

Why does it have to be a drop down menu option or a big button?

Because if I had known this I might not have bought it. Doesn't matter if it tells you AFTER purchase.

I'm sure one of the first mods will be a weightless/alcohol-less Save Schnapps.

This just seems a bit too precious. I mean, "so what". I'm pretty sure there were a lot of games that implemented save "areas" or save points and they didn't need to make it a thing.

There's no law stating that a "save" system has to be implemented one way or another.

Now, if the game had "no" saving other than on logout then that breaks with what is the norm and would probably have to be mentioned. But implementing a button or sleeping or drinking or a drop down doesn't really need to be "a thing".

Well, unless you make it a thing.

In any case, if you bought the game on steam you can start your refund. I can't imagine you played for over 2 hours without looking for a save function.

bartoni33 · February 2018

Ok I call bullshit on this game.

I just lost about 30-40 minutes of gameplay because of the shitty save (or lack thereof) system.

Saved after talking to Mom. Saved after talking to Dad. Did not save for next three conversations I had with various people (trying not to spoil), including a main quest conversation. Game crashes, guess what? I'm back to Dad! Fuck that.

I'll wait until some good soul makes a Mod that gives Save Schnapps at the beginning of the game before I play this again. It's frickin 2018, give me AT LEAST a save on exiting the game.

Sovrath · February 2018

bartoni33 said:

Ok I call bullshit on this game.

I just lost about 30-40 minutes of gameplay because of the shitty save (or lack thereof) system.

Saved after talking to Mom. Saved after talking to Dad. Did not save for next three conversations I had with various people (trying not to spoil), including a main quest conversation. Game crashes, guess what? I'm back to Dad! Fuck that.

I'll wait until some good soul makes a Mod that gives Save Schnapps at the beginning of the game before I play this again. It's frickin 2018, give me AT LEAST a save on exiting the game.

At least I an commiserate with that. If a game is going to have a save system that isn't "immediate" it needs to be well developed so that players don't lose progress on crashing.

I think I'm going to wait until they do another patch before I purchase.

lotrlore · February 2018

Sovrath said:

bartoni33 said:

Oh god it gets worse.

Apparently their is no quicksave or saving on exit . Only saves when you drink something and when you sleep.

THAT is something that should have been made perfectly clear before launch.

I'm keeping hopes up (downloading now) but man that looks bad.

Is it clear in game?

I mean, there's really no issue. As long as it's made clear in game then drink something and log out.

Why does it have to be a drop down menu option or a big button?

I've been playing it off and on the past few days and this is my biggest complaint. No auto save or manual save function - tying your saves to an item in game makes no sense, especially when early on they are so expensive you can't afford them.

Essentially if you start something you need to see it through before quitting the game. This doesn't bode well for making sure you don't lose progress if a real-life issue crops up or a game crash (which in 20 hours so far it hasn't crashed since I got my early copy from PR).

It's definitely a factor in the overall purchase if anyone is still on the fence.

lotrlore · February 2018

bartoni33 said:

Ok I call bullshit on this game.

I just lost about 30-40 minutes of gameplay because of the shitty save (or lack thereof) system.

Saved after talking to Mom. Saved after talking to Dad. Did not save for next three conversations I had with various people (trying not to spoil), including a main quest conversation. Game crashes, guess what? I'm back to Dad! Fuck that.

I'll wait until some good soul makes a Mod that gives Save Schnapps at the beginning of the game before I play this again. It's frickin 2018, give me AT LEAST a save on exiting the game.

So there are a few NPCs early on that give you a handful of those, not sure how far you got with the early moments before the crash. But you're right, there needs to be a better way of handling the saves. Tying save states to in-game items makes zero sense. Literally None.

bartoni33 · February 2018

Sweet! Here is a Dev confirmed workaround.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1300472152

It does work. Just make sure your changes done in Notepad++ are saved to the .pac file.

Now I'm happy!

azarhal · February 2018

bartoni33 said:

Oh god it gets worse.

Apparently their is no quicksave or saving on exit . Only saves when you drink something and when you sleep.

THAT is something that should have been made perfectly clear before launch.

I'm keeping hopes up (downloading now) but man that looks bad.

The save system was explained a long time ago, it even did the rounds of the gaming news last November.

Sovrath · February 2018

lotrlore said:

Sovrath said:

bartoni33 said:

Oh god it gets worse.

Apparently their is no quicksave or saving on exit . Only saves when you drink something and when you sleep.

THAT is something that should have been made perfectly clear before launch.

I'm keeping hopes up (downloading now) but man that looks bad.

Is it clear in game?

I mean, there's really no issue. As long as it's made clear in game then drink something and log out.

Why does it have to be a drop down menu option or a big button?

I've been playing it off and on the past few days and this is my biggest complaint. No auto save or manual save function - tying your saves to an item in game makes no sense, especially when early on they are so expensive you can't afford them.

Essentially if you start something you need to see it through before quitting the game. This doesn't bode well for making sure you don't lose progress if a real-life issue crops up or a game crash (which in 20 hours so far it hasn't crashed since I got my early copy from PR).

It's definitely a factor in the overall purchase if anyone is still on the fence.

If they are expensive then "yeah" that's an issue.

What about sleeping? Doing some searching I see that one can visit a bath house or sleep in one's bed. Bath house might cost money but surely sleeping won't.

I don't see a problem tying saves to in game activities but I do see a problem where, if one is poor, they can't save.

Panther2103 · February 2018

This game was looking pretty good until I read that the tutorial is 8 to 9 hours long and that the game only opens up after that. But honestly I still want to try it. At this exact moment the only thing holding me back is the supposedly large amount of bugs, reminiscent of Two Worlds, as well as the jankyness. The save system is whatever, I don't want to lose a bunch of progress to a bug, but I also understand wanting saves to be more limited. I mean half of the old JRPG games I played made you save at specific marked save points on the map which sometimes wouldn't show up for hours at a time which would make me have to pause the game overnight occasionally.

GameByNight · February 2018

Viper482 said:

I guess some people don't want to be immersed in the world....

I appreciate choice too, but I respect that 1st person is more immersive by design. I think it works really well in this game.

Sovrath · February 2018

I just found out that one can craft these Schnapps drinks so right there seems to be what one should do. Make it a point to craft about 5 or so and go from there.

This is provided that one can craft these after one leaves the tutorial.

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