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The 10 Best MMOs of 2017 - The List - MMORPG.com

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  • AlpiusAlpius Member UncommonPosts: 196
    wait, were calling BDO a sandbox game now? i mean, sorta i guess.

    have to agree with most that some of these games are not what the traditional definition of 'MMO' is, but at this point i think its no longer an acronym and instead just used to define any type of online game.
  • LeFantomeLeFantome Member RarePosts: 603

    Rhygarth said:

    Lol the first 4 are not even MMO's :P



    Agreed , a lot of them are NOT even close to be a MMO.
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  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,144
    sgel said:
    Rhygarth said:
    Dragnelus has it right they are just multiplayer games, its not just massive as in massive world it is "massively multiplayer" i am sorry but that says to me you can have lots of people playing togther
    Pong is a multiplayer game so is EvE Online with thousands of people per battle.
    Just calling something multiplayer is waaaay too generic.

    Anyway, your opinion of  "massive" is different to mine, there's not a set-in-stone definition iirc which is why these conversations about which game is and isn't an mmo never really end.
    It's very subjective.


    What is massive? Secret world legends is only 10 players per zone, so does destiny 2, path of exile  up to 6 players.
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  • Agent_JosephAgent_Joseph Member UncommonPosts: 1,335


    What is massive? Secret world legends is only 10 players per zone

    WTF,are you ever played SWL ?
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  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,804


    Gisrie said:

    wait, were calling BDO a sandbox game now? i mean, sorta i guess.



    have to agree with most that some of these games are not what the traditional definition of 'MMO' is, but at this point i think its no longer an acronym and instead just used to define any type of online game.



    That is probably true. However, I believe that is why it should be changed to something else. The term "massive" doesn't really devolve very well and should be replaced by "multi player".

    I have zero problem with the article or the games on it. I just think the term needs to "evolve" to be more inclusive.. I guess is the way to word it. In general the word "inclusive" makes me cringe.. however, I read about a lot of games on here I wouldn't normally have played... that just don't fit the traditional "mmo" definition and I don't think this is something that needs to be... complicated.
  • MadCoderOneMadCoderOne Member UncommonPosts: 215
    1/2 arent MMORPG's...sorry
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 8,999
    All of these list from this site are laughable.
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  • GolelornGolelorn Member RarePosts: 1,392

    SBFord said:


    Rhygarth said:

    Lol the first 4 are not even MMO's :P


    And so it begins....



    So.. if the article had said MMO of the year goes to Fortnite you think that would have been OK?
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 12,385
    "Sure enough, there weren’t many great new games to play in 2017."

    Well I am not sure it is a good idea to vote a MMO in its first year as best MMO anyway, give it a year to mature. But the word "games" was used, rather indicating the list leans to online multiplayer.

    And so I continue it...

    There are rather a lot of Not So MMO (etc) on the list. I am not sure why MMO players or columnists should be getting caught up in the "Battle Royale mode craze". It is a mode, not the second coming. Warframe for example is described by its company as "A third-person, co-op focused action game" I guess co-op is all that's needed now for the word "MMO" to be dropped on it like an elephant in the lobby.

    The actual MMOs picked were a good balanced selection, well thought out. Diversity in MMOs; their play styles, lore, themes and graphics is what makes for a strong genre and that's what the list shows.


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  • AkulasAkulas Member RarePosts: 2,557
    GW2, FFXIV, ESO, SWL and BDO MMORPG. Warfame, D2, Fortnite, POE not MMORPG. Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong. :D
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,799
    Here, MMO = Any game with a login screen.
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  • RedFireCERedFireCE Member UncommonPosts: 21
    The owner of the article did a good job, I found the subject excellent, but he started a war. haha
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  • ThaneThane Member RarePosts: 3,483
    i'd say warframe has more players online than some other mmos. so it's actually quite massive, and multiplayer, and online

    uh and if they are no mmos, why is GW? what's the max per instance, 40? 100?
    sounds like a big battlefield to me, eh?

    get some fresh panties guys and chill
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  • RaquisRaquis Member UncommonPosts: 1,008
    edited December 2017
    the only good thing i can say about the 10"best" MMO`S is that some of the better ones are free.
    the devcelopers make very boring average games i believe they will release amazing games as soon as you agree to plant a chip in your brain then you are a total slave in any case,like the Borg in star trek thats their goal;)
  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 2,342

    SBFord said:


    Rhygarth said:

    Lol the first 4 are not even MMO's :P


    And so it begins....



    And so , change the title ! "The 10 Best Mix Games of 2017"
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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,563
    “In no particular order, here are our 10 Best MMOs of 2017. Note, not all of these are MMORPG’s, but rather prime examples of the changing landscape of persistent online games.”
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  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,000

    SBFord said:


    Rhygarth said:

    Lol the first 4 are not even MMO's :P


    And so it begins....



    Not to mention PoE.

    The problem is it takes away spots from perhaps other deserving MMORPGs.

    This isn't even a list selected from MMOs that launched in 2017, which would make including the above understandable.

    There are hundreds of extant honest-to-goodness MMORPGs; you could have literally rolled the dice a few times and come up with a better list of "best MMOs of 2017".

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  • LeFantomeLeFantome Member RarePosts: 603
    “In no particular order, here are our 10 Best MMOs of 2017. Note, not all of these are MMORPG’s, but rather prime examples of the changing landscape of persistent online games.”

    huh?
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,918
    edited December 2017


    “In no particular order, here are our 10 Best MMOs of 2017. Note, not all of these are MMORPG’s, but rather prime examples of the changing landscape of persistent online games.”




    Then just change the list to 10 best Multiplayer Online games.


    Sort of like making a list 10 best sports cars - but then saying "note not all of these are cars - some are bicycles and there's a pair of running shoes in the list too"


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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,940
    DMKano said:


    “In no particular order, here are our 10 Best MMOs of 2017. Note, not all of these are MMORPG’s, but rather prime examples of the changing landscape of persistent online games.”




    Then just change the list to 10 best Multiplayer Online games.


    Sort of like making a list 10 best sports cars - but then saying "note not all of these are cars - some are bicycles and there's a pair of running shoes in the list too"


    This.  The list is idiotic.
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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,563
    No, ALL of these games are MMOs, but what an MMO is has changed greatly since the genre’s inception. And if you disagree, that’s fine. Just make your own list.
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    edited December 2017
    Geez, people, lighten up. It's not like Bill said these were all MMORPGs, simply "MMOs".

    I dunno...."M" (MASSIVE) "M" (MULTIPLAYER) "O" (ONLINE) all seem to fit each of these games. The definition of massive has changed. The days of 1000s of players sharing a single game are mostly gone and if you consider "servers" -- most of which host fewer than 500 players -- these games all fit. 

    The "new" MMO is 50+ to whatever number of players together in one place. People need to adapt with the times. Someday maybe the more "traditional" version of MMO will come back, but for now, times have changed. It's not 2007 any more.

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  • coretex666coretex666 Member EpicPosts: 3,668
    No, ALL of these games are MMOs, but what an MMO is has changed greatly since the genre’s inception. And if you disagree, that’s fine. Just make your own list.
    If I were you, I would put together a brief definition of what MMORPG.COM considers to be an MMO and then you can refer people to it when they complain.

    The terms MMO and MMORPG have become so vague that they are now in the same league as P2W  :)
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  • coretex666coretex666 Member EpicPosts: 3,668
    DMKano said:


    “In no particular order, here are our 10 Best MMOs of 2017. Note, not all of these are MMORPG’s, but rather prime examples of the changing landscape of persistent online games.”




    Then just change the list to 10 best Multiplayer Online games.


    Sort of like making a list 10 best sports cars - but then saying "note not all of these are cars - some are bicycles and there's a pair of running shoes in the list too"


    This.  The list is idiotic.
    Unnecessary, man.
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  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,000
    Thane said:
    i'd say warframe has more players online than some other mmos. so it's actually quite massive, and multiplayer, and online

    uh and if they are no mmos, why is GW? what's the max per instance, 40? 100?
    sounds like a big battlefield to me, eh?

    get some fresh panties guys and chill
    sgel said:
    Could the people who say that some of the games on the list aren't mmos, defind what an mmo is?

    Just curious what each person's definition is.

    It's "massively multiplayer", not "massive + multiplayer".  Chess is played by a "massive" number of people (600 million), it is "multiplayer" (2 players), it is online.  There's all three boxes for you box-checkers.  Must be a MMORPG?  Reductio ad absurdum.

    It's hard to believe the goalposts have moved so far this must even be a discussion.

    That stated, it's not just about how many people are literally simultaneously interacting in a meaningful way; MUDs are a thing, and somewhat distinct from MMORPGs.  The term "MMORPG" also has meaningful connotation like:

    *A persistent world
    *Large numbers of people in the same digital space
    *Progression
    *Role-playing

    Publishing a list like this adds further confusion about what the term "MMORPG" means at a time when many people seem to be struggling with the concept.  This is mmorpg.com; you could have used this as an opportunity to showcase some MMORPGs if you needed 5 or so spots to fill, regardless of whether or not they are popular!  Perhaps in drawing your community's attention to actual MMORPGs you may even help some of them to become popular.

    From your game list:

    Rift
    WildStar
    TERA
    EVE Online
    Lord of the Rings Online
    Final Fantasy XI
    Dark Age of Camelot
    Ryzom
    Perpetuum
    PlanetSide 2
    Dungeon & Dragons Online
    Ultima Online
    EverQuest
    Lineage 2
    DC Universe Online
    Anarchy Online
    Dragon Nest
    World of Warcraft
    Age of Conan: Unchained
    Firefall
    Wurm Online
    Age of Wushu
    Vendetta Online
    Star Wars: The Old Republic
    Continent of the Ninth Seal
    Pirates of the Burning Sea
    Uncharted Waters Online
    A Tale in the Desert
    Entropia Universe
    Mortal Online

    I submit that a random selection of any five from there in place of the titles that are not MMORPGs would improve your list.
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