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MMORPG.com's Best of 2017 Awards - General Awards

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  • spidiispidii Member UncommonPosts: 142
    "there’s no denying that Destiny 2 is a great persistent online shooter."

    Yes there is.
    Phry
  • keithiankeithian Member UncommonPosts: 3,157
    "It’s a crime that WildStar isn’t more popular".

    Holy crap. Get over it already. It was annoying how much Bill hyped this, as soon as I tried this game, tried the so called 'Explorer' class, and soon realized it was like playing Super Mario Brothers, that is not exploring. ESO does much more justice to the world Exploring (if you don't use mods to show you where everything is). Now its dead, and you folks still won't let go. The game didn't do well because it just wasn't good to the majority of folks who played it. That doesn't make it a crime, it just is what it is and maybe you folks just hype bad games sometimes.

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  • JDis25JDis25 Member RarePosts: 1,350
    I don't agree with any of these except MMO of the year and it's not even my favorite MMO
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    Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
  • IshkalIshkal Member UncommonPosts: 302
    Damn you are dead on with wildstar that game shoulda been HUGE it was so amazing in every way people want good games then spurn them when they appear cause they are to hard or to hardcore.
    bcbully
  • GwapoJoshGwapoJosh Member UncommonPosts: 1,030

    Nasa said:

    Destiny 2 is one big scam and should not qualify for any prestigious award.



    I agree with this comment completely.
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  • hasho83hasho83 Member UncommonPosts: 84
    edited December 2017
    FF14 best MMORPG ? o,O you from antoher planet or something ?!?
  • skakrukskakruk Member UncommonPosts: 41
    Good entries overall, but Destiny 2 and wildstar?.. WHAT?
  • ArteriusArterius Member EpicPosts: 2,693

    Scot said:

    I know you like a click, but you could put this on one page with three buttons below it for us to click three times. Thanks ;)



    Ashes of Creation won’t be out next year, in fact according to posters only Pantheon from the most voted list will and maybe not even that. But maybe you know better?



    FF is a solid choice for the MMORPG.



    Most underrated MMO? Unusual category, as there is rarely smoke without fire.



    Divinity, is it even a MMO hybrid? Strong game for what I think of as Team Multiplayers.



    Even Pantheon is a long shot. According to there website they just went into PA and unless they push through every one of there testing stages I could see a release in 2019.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,934
    GwapoJosh said:

    Nasa said:
    Destiny 2 is one big scam and should not qualify for any prestigious award.
    I agree with this comment completely.
    I disagree completely. I think it's one of the best shooters I've played and the most memorable since Borderlands 2. The gun play is tight and it's fluid and mobile like Quake or DOOM. The physics feels right for that style of play.

    It cost me $90 for the entire game. I could drop $10 here and there on BE packs and it would still be cheaper than an of my "real" MMOs. Scam? I don't think that word means what you think it does. A bit spendy, yes. A scam, lolwut.
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  • WizbuizWizbuiz Member UncommonPosts: 209
    The only game that has been a success is the "Hype game"
  • Tindale111Tindale111 Member UncommonPosts: 276
    wow im not going to get into this argument about FFIV i,m not going to say the maps are terrible that the zones are small and penned in and that the crafting is pointless no sir not me. just going to say most anticipated RPG for me is going to be The Bards Tale IV merry christmas all
  • JunglecharlyJunglecharly Member UncommonPosts: 167
    keithian said:
    "It’s a crime that WildStar isn’t more popular".

    Holy crap. Get over it already. It was annoying how much Bill hyped this, as soon as I tried this game, tried the so called 'Explorer' class, and soon realized it was like playing Super Mario Brothers, that is not exploring. ESO does much more justice to the world Exploring (if you don't use mods to show you where everything is). Now its dead, and you folks still won't let go. The game didn't do well because it just wasn't good to the majority of folks who played it. That doesn't make it a crime, it just is what it is and maybe you folks just hype bad games sometimes.
     Holy macaroni Batman! Explorer is not even a class.
  • jeeshadowjeeshadow Member UncommonPosts: 134
    Kind of a sad list imo.
    Wildstar did get enough attention when it first came out. If it was something good, people would have stayed. many wanted to stay, but like the other poster said, it just ISN"T fun.

    I think MMO's are dead. There's so many indy's trying to make one, but none of them are actually made. Only the crap ones are made. This genre of game is heading out now. Who killed it? The same group that kills any genre of game out there. The gamers, of course.
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 9,974
    new category for wildstar lmao
  • coretex666coretex666 Member EpicPosts: 3,793
    I would be interested in some more information as to why you selected those particular games.

    For instance, what are some key aspects / elements of Ashes of Creation that made you choose it as the most anticipated MMO.
  • UNH0LYEV1LUNH0LYEV1L Member UncommonPosts: 492
    Destiny 2 is a trash game...how much did Bungie/Activision pay for that award?
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  • TalemireTalemire Member UncommonPosts: 803
    edited December 2017
    I bet a major reason Pantheon didn't beat out Ashes of Creation is because the genre is filled with gamers who weren't around for the old-school rules. If we had the same demographic and appreciation for difficulty in MMORPGs, the difference between Pantheon and Ashes would be like the difference between a AAA title and an indie title. Despite my opinion, though, I will be playing both, but I'm certainly going to get more out of Pantheon since I can appreciate it more.
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  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,310


    Best Hybrid MMO....uggh. 

    Destiny 2 is not a hybrid MMO. There is nothing MMO about it! A 16 player online shooter is nowhere close to being massively multiplayer. Whilst I agree there is crossover appeal with the MMORPG crowd and I'm happy for you to cover such games, please don't contribute to dissolving the genre and misunderstanding of the term. You are supposed to be an authority on the genre so you should be able to distinguish between the technology (MMO - number of people in the same virtual environment) from the features (RPG - progression, loot, classes, dungeons, raids etc). 


    As to the actual awards.....meh. Only three were about MMOs. 

    Most Anticipated - Ashes of Creation. I really don't know much about it. It seems pretty sub-standard to me, just another indie sandbox, it just happened to raise marginally more money on kickstarter than other kickstarter MMOs. What are you most excited about? Only unique thing seems to be the AI driven political changes and town growth. Whilst that sounds good, it also sounds wildly unachievable on their budget. 

    Most Underrated - Wildstar. Strongly disagree, as would the overwhelming majority of people who ever played it. Apart from housing, Wildstar seemed to fail at every single thing they attempted. Such a disjointed mess of a game. 

    Best MMO - FFXIV. There were basically only two contenders for this, FFXIV and ESO. Nothing new this year, so only relying on oldies, most of which aren't getting much love. I'm surprised Stormblood beat Morrowind, but I guess there isn't much in it so doesn't matter which way it goes. 



    Wow, we made it further than I thought before the 'Dis ain't no MMO' argument. Can we all agree that there no..NO..MMOs since the golden age of [insert you're favorite game].
    Torval

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  • velimiriusvelimirius Member UncommonPosts: 116
    Destiny, lol /facepalm
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 3,177
    The salt in this thread is delicious. Especially the 'my opinion is better then your opinion' salt, it really never gets old. Lets hope facts and opinions will still be hardly distinguishable in 2018 as well.

    OT, awesome list, best list ever. Fact!

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Torval
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    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
  • CalaruilCalaruil Member UncommonPosts: 141
    Let's split the list.

    Most anticipated to fail in the next year.
    Most anticipated game in development. 
  • CazrielCazriel Member UncommonPosts: 419
    "Wildstar, Wildstar, where do you roam?
    Wildstar, Wildstar, so far from home."

    100+ nerd awards for anyone who can name that TV show theme song.

    Wildstar. I don't know whether I'm getting used to you or you are actually a better game than when you launched, or whether after 3 tries, I have a high enough level character (11) to begin to enjoy the game or what the deal is.

    Whether after playing BDO, Shadow of Mordor, Path of Exile and Skyforge, I'm okay with your combat, whether every other game out there is boring me and I'm recycling through the fails on my external hard drive. Or maybe its just because it's Christmas and I'm feeling generous.

    Downloaded the game for the 4th time and am giving it a fair shot at becoming interesting. It's a pretty steep mountain of dis to climb. Disinterest, disengagement, disappointment. Entering with no expectations whatsoever, I find the obnoxiously arch dialogue less so, the crazy colored terrain more forgiving, and the combat more fun and less frenetic than I remembered. Maybe I've been desensitized?

    That it's an overwhelming pile of shouting competing activities is still true. That there is zero support for the game is also true. Wiki pages are mostly filled in with "this is a stub, log in to contribute" and no one does. If there's a community, it's gone underground.

    Really, if you're looking for an old-style, do-it-yourself MMO, this is certainly it, because Google will not help you. You've got to figure it out for yourself. There are no help pages and the radar map is cluttered with unidentified icons that only experience will help you decipher. It's frustrating, sure. But as the old hard-asses like to say, it's a challenge and so satisfying when you finally figure out that T is an action word.

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  • free2playfree2play Member UncommonPosts: 2,021
    Definitely in the wasteland this year and you took grandma to the prom.

    For what it's worth, I did sub FF14 for 6 months of 2017 but I'd put BDO higher on my personal list of 2017 MMO experiences. Even with the shitty RnG enchant system.
    Garrik
  • SirAgravaineSirAgravaine Member RarePosts: 520

    Newnan said:

    Best single player rpg botw.



    Zelda: BotW is not an RPG.
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  • ArimaWasTakenArimaWasTaken Member UncommonPosts: 19

    KinkyAmra said:



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    Viper482 said:





    Just my opinions.....Wildstar is just a bad game. It is not a crime for people to not like bad games. It looks great, it looks fun, but it just.....isn't. The game lacks the most important element in a game...fun.











    I'll never understand the FFXIV craze, but to each their own with that one. Wildstar on the other hand, its failure after the ultra-hype (I bought in too) speaks volumes about the game.




















    Would agree on the Final Fashion XIV comment. The graphics are above average and the fights are pretty okay if you don't break down the 3 overlapping mechanics that they use for most fights (4 if you count falling off/pushed off). Everything else is barebones though, even the fashion element. But as you said, it seems the current generation is into this kind of thing. I'll say that it has a lot of potential though.












    The hate you have for FF is unreal












    You see this as "unreal hate"? rofl. You FFXIV fans are so sensitive.






    Im neither sensitive nor a ffxiv fan but i have noticed that in every thread that ff is being mentioned he is there bashing it for whatever reason.He must have some deep grudge for it.



    You don't have to defend FFXIV from them, they don't HAVE to like it, just play what you enjoy.
    Fellow FFXIV player here.
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