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Crytek Filing Lawsuit Against CIG
rpmcmurphy
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Very surprised to hear this but Crytek have taken on Kevin Minnick of Skadden as representation against CIG....
From the documents which can be read at https://www.scribd.com/document/367101474/Crytek-v-CIG
From the documents which can be read at https://www.scribd.com/document/367101474/Crytek-v-CIG
"Crytek and Defendants agreed to preliminary license terms, and Crytek invested significant time and expense in creating impressive demonstrations and proofs-of-concept that were used to persuade the public to contribute financially to a "crowdfunding" campaign to support development of the video game."
Some other interesting bits listed here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/384948-Star-Citizen-Discussions-v7?p=6210060&viewfull=1#post6210060
Hopefully this gets settled asap.
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It seems Crytek even contests the right of CIG to have moved Star Citizen to Lumberyard because claim one agreement where they didn't permit it.
Like they for some reason also have no right to develop SQ42 because it was only "one game" (Star Citizen).
And really claim the bug-smashers videos are a breach of contract because they show the game editor, okay then. O_o
Should wait and see how is this settled.
I wonder where it will go from here. It seems that, if the documents wording from the GLA is accurate, they at least have a good case on CIG's decision to use the engine for two titles instead of the one agreed upon.
It seems that is also a breach of contract because "confidential stuff", gg lol
If the "only one game" license is true then that where I find they have the case because CIG started letting the SQ42 title to be bought separately, if so CIG may look into a settling such dispute.
The accountant I am is very happy that CiG might need to present their financials from this. I work for a not-for-profit charity and even they need to release financials to ensure to their donars that they are spending responsibly but CiG doesn't need to do the same for its backers. It's about time that changed.
Wow, CiG really went whole-ham on this lawsuit (not that that's surprising. You're supposed to sue for everything and the kitchen sink when you bring up a suit). From what people are saying in that thread and from what I can tell, it seems like they actually have a good case on most points, too.
...Merry Christmas!
Have fun.
edit- That's why they started selling land!
Would you, as a monetary backer of this game, be OK with CIG using backer money to fight this lawsuit? If by losing it might mean the game doesn't get released?
Yes I know they (should) already have lawyers on retainer but I'm just curious. If CIG did a telethon selling "Crysis sucks" skins for your ship or whatnot would you be OK with it? My answer would be No because mismanagement has already cost this project enough money. But then again I wouldn't want to see the game go tits up either.
EDIT: I see they are only going for $70k so that would be a drop in the bucket to CIG.
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Sp Crytke is like who whoa wait one minute,your not using us to promote your game for free and making spin offs ,sub games off the same agreement.
Imo the SC team would have fully known they are operating illegally and imo are ,so now it comes down to proving negligence,terms and money owed if any.
Also mentioned is a former player is in the news because his 24k refund has not been completed nor the legal fees he incurred taking on CIG for the refund.
Personally i did quite a bit of research and no developer has to give anyone's money back if they don't want to unless of course you can prove misleading information or a form of deceptive marketing practice.CIG did pay some ,so i to me it pretty much says CIG is operating under very shotty terms/practices to the point of operating illegal,otherwise they don't have to refund any money.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
But there's absolutely no idea at this stage of the severity, the strength of the accusations and the costs that it might involve in the first place, so all one can do is wait and see.
That's perfectly fair though. If CIG aren't willing to abide by the terms of the contract that's entirely on them regardless of how silly it might seem. All they've done is show that they are willing to flaunt the license they were granted, it's all the little things that add up in a courtroom.
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"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
I'm sure we will get droves of people defending CIG and bashing Crytek now, but really, the onus to follow the contract they entered in to is on CIG; it is not Crytek's responsibility to allow CIG to take liberty with their engine. If CIG breaks the terms of the contract, Crytek has every right (and obligation) to seek recompense. If they don't, it leaves them open to other companies doing the same thing.
CIG is "indie" (kinda, if you really want to stretch the definiton), but that does not exempt them from basic developer responsibilities.
If they sell access to Arena Commander only would that make it a 4th game?
I don't know
Armchair Lawyers assemble!
Drums up awareness and increases sales
Same thing happened when the:
> Counts Loan surfaced: https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/466276/cig-deal-with-coutts-co/p1
> $45k refund (fake): https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/468158/45-000-refund-allegedly#latest
etc... Drama is the fuel that ignites Star Citizen continuous funding.
One game not two? The fact that nothing different from what was planned is being developed could be a factor. I suppose CIG could offer a combined SC / SQ42 package - without a SC ship!
Can't link up with Limberyard - that one is interesting though. Wonder what Amazon think?
Some of this stuff does seem a stretch on Crytech's part - although it sounds like a storm in a teacup in the big scheme of things. Priority for SC has to be to get 3.0 out to alpha.
Now we must wonder...
hmmm!
Have to give them credit: Striking for optimal damage/profit ratio.
Someone must really have pissed them off...
They have been trying to survive, just by not developing new games, whelp.