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Will A:IR Reignite AAA MMORPG Development? - Bill Murphy - MMORPG.com

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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 2,909
    Torval said:
    I look forward to games where the devs pull three English words out of a hat to name a game.
    Not to single you out, just a quick grab for example. Seen this comment subject come up in this thread a few times. Which got me thinking.

    The writers over there are obsessed with the elements. TERA The Exiled Realm of Arborea (Earth, ground, Terra). and now A:IR... I suspect in the future, we will see FIRE, and WATER come eventually. 

    Don't joke like that because I want that all in one game, something like this. :smiley:


    Yeah but probably not something like this...



    Plus all the crap browser games like Bleach, Naruto, etc I don't think there is a single good anime MMORPG.

    I'm also with @MadFrenchie on WoW classic having a better chance of reigniting AAA MMORPGs.

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  • DvoraDvora Member UncommonPosts: 495
    Stayn2010 said:
    Forgrimm said:
    Forgrimm said:
    I have a hard time understanding why so many people object so much to gender locking. 
    Because I have no interest in playing female characters. 
    So play the other classes.
    That's not a viable solution to the problem. If the devs can't be bothered to make 2 different genders for each class and race, then I can't be bothered to play the game.
    As has been said many times throughout the thread, THERE IS NO GENDER LOCK.  Read for Christ's sake.
    But wait, will there be a gender "X" for each race and class?  If not I'm not playing!  ALL GAMES ARE GENDER LOCKED UNTILL THERE ARE 3 (wait 4?) GENDERS!
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  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 2,972
    Stayn2010 said:
    Forgrimm said:
    Forgrimm said:
    I have a hard time understanding why so many people object so much to gender locking. 
    Because I have no interest in playing female characters. 
    So play the other classes.
    That's not a viable solution to the problem. If the devs can't be bothered to make 2 different genders for each class and race, then I can't be bothered to play the game.
    As has been said many times throughout the thread, THERE IS NO GENDER LOCK.  Read for Christ's sake.
    I get that. I was responding to the suggestion regarding gender locked games in general.
  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 745
    Looks like a lot of people fell for the "fake news" of gender locked classes. . .
  • OrthelianOrthelian Member UncommonPosts: 1,028

    Tiller said:


    LrdEtrius said:

    Nope. I jumped out of the hype boat as soon as i noticed the gender lock. If they can't even have this basic thing in character management i don't wanna know the rest.



    This game is what I would expect to see if you mixed GW2 with BDO. Looks ok but what is it with Korean games and gender lock classes?



    I appreciate the huge boon it is to animation and how it can play into worldbuilding in terms of jobs or styles of fighting that would be better suited one way or the other. At least in BDO it made some sense in that way early on. Less so with the post-release classes.

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,761
    I don't think it will reignite MMO development in the west. I don't think much of anything but the possibility of easy big money will reignite that including the "indie classic" resurgence or WoW retooling for a classic server. Western studios and pubs are chasing the easy money and that's pvp multiplayer online games as a service.
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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 6,967
    Well it seems to be BDO's engine, so the visuals will be on point, but just as BDO you can also notice the assetings poping in haha

    But I find it weird, at least to me it seems to be a PvP-focused MMO, wouldn't expect something as good PvE and story from Kakao.
  • ArgahawkArgahawk Member UncommonPosts: 78
    edited November 2017
    Can't wait to see more of it
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    I dunno, TERA have moved to the direction of swarms of trashmobs you just easily kill with no effort and if this game is doing the same I will stay away.
  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,387
    I don't care about Gender lock if there is enough classes, but only 5 classes??? and since I will only play a male it means I am likely stuck with a Warrior and a Rogue as my options once again
  • time007time007 Member UncommonPosts: 1,054
    as long as it doesn't have the clunky asian UI and horrible new times roman font asian games use so often it should be ok
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited November 2017
    Myrdynn said:
    I don't care about Gender lock if there is enough classes, but only 5 classes??? and since I will only play a male it means I am likely stuck with a Warrior and a Rogue as my options once again
    There's no planned gender-lock.

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited November 2017
    Torval said:
    I don't think it will reignite MMO development in the west. I don't think much of anything but the possibility of easy big money will reignite that including the "indie classic" resurgence or WoW retooling for a classic server. Western studios and pubs are chasing the easy money and that's pvp multiplayer online games as a service.
    While true, online games as a service fits the old revenue model of the genre.  It would certainly take a breakneck pace of quality content release, but if games are moving towards a service model, a subscription seems more likely to have a resurgence that could be leveraged well in a genre like MMORPGs, a genre that's always been about online, evolving content.

    In fact, outside of video games, subscription models are becoming more and more popular.  Amazon Prime, Netflix/Hulu, Dollar Shave Club, the list goes on and on.  It seems quite the converse to video gaming, actually; pay-per-item services like Vudu don't seem nearly as popular compared to their subscription counterparts.  Then again, there's no "My hammer's bigger and badder than yours" to be had in video streaming, so that's a likely driver of the difference in payment model preferences.

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  • CambruinCambruin Member UncommonPosts: 45
    Sorry, but it's Asian, so gender locks and every male char looks like an anime firgure and every female like a pornstar, cries and shouts included. Unbelievable -not in a good way- animations, excessive should pieces, weaponry not even The Mountain could lift, ...

    Nope, I tried many of them and felt like I wasted both time and money on all of them.
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,761
    Torval said:
    I don't think it will reignite MMO development in the west. I don't think much of anything but the possibility of easy big money will reignite that including the "indie classic" resurgence or WoW retooling for a classic server. Western studios and pubs are chasing the easy money and that's pvp multiplayer online games as a service.
    While true, online games as a service fits the old revenue model of the genre.  It would certainly take a breakneck pace of quality content release, but if games are moving towards a service model, a subscription seems more likely to have a resurgence that could be leveraged well in a genre like MMORPGs, a genre that's always been about online, evolving content.

    In fact, outside of video games, subscription models are becoming more and more popular.  Amazon Prime, Netflix/Hulu, Dollar Shave Club, the list goes on and on.  It seems quite the converse to video gaming, actually; pay-per-item services like Vudu don't seem nearly as popular compared to their subscription counterparts.  Then again, there's no "My hammer's bigger and badder than yours" to be had in video streaming, so that's a likely driver of the difference in payment model preferences.
    I don't think it's not going to be for big MMORPGs though. That service model is going to be the streamlined Battlefront 2, GTA Online, CoD WW2, Overwatch, LoL stuff.

    We only do streaming in our house for entertainment - Netflix, Hulu, Amazon. We can watch most of what we want, but there are still things we have to pay more for or buy in addition to the service. Same with music. Amazon music gets me 99% of everything I could want, but some stuff is still purchase only. Point being I think the big squeeze is on and media publishers are getting smarter about how to do it.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    It'll be ruined by a payment model that alienates most people so it will never reach it's full potential.
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  • MetroboMetrobo Member UncommonPosts: 31
    edited November 2017
    I could see myself playing this but that is only if gender lock disappears. That is usually the one condition that can stop me from experiencing a game. **Edit** Read more of the comments, looks like gender locking won't be a thing. I'm in.
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  • Gel214thGel214th Member UncommonPosts: 187
    Which Korean MMORPG has made a significant impact on Western audiences recently?
    I can't recall any.

    And I doubt this one will be it. The majority Western audience isn't interested in the South Korean playstyle of MMO. Grindy, over-the-top Anime style, Cash Shop; Juvenile writing, characters and storylines.

    I like the premise of air battles, but the game mechanics that will most likely be wrapped around that doesn't interest me.
  • KatillaKatilla Member UncommonPosts: 815
    edited November 2017



    LrdEtrius said:

    Nope. I jumped out of the hype boat as soon as i noticed the gender lock. If they can't even have this basic thing in character management i don't wanna know the rest.


    Seriously, gender-locking classes is just lazy development.  They need to do the extra work and allow people to make the character they want.



    Are the classes of A:IR gender locked?

    Bluehole is planning to add both genders to each class.

    source for most of the posters issues, including an answer for lag in the trailer can be found here: https://forum.airthegame.com/index.php?threads/the-a-ir-teaser-faq-is-live.43/

    as i was posting this i did not see someone else posted it already lol
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619

    Nilden said:



    I don't like gender locking, but it's not a deal breaker for me. I totally get why it can be for some, though. Hopefully they learn from BDO.


    It's not a deal breaker for me either but a shitty cash shop will be. Any word on that front?



    Agreed! The game looks promising but what about the business model?
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  • rawfoxrawfox Member UncommonPosts: 780
    Asians are not able to make a good mmorpg.
    They are awesome on visuals and techstuff, but look at what came there when we all played ArcheAge. It was the savior of all our mmorpg dreams but we got betraied by % modifiers and p2w shit, lootboxes and stupid "burn your money" mechanics. No, ill never play those Asian stuff again ..
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,019
    DMKano said:


    Jet packs, mini-gun, flying sailboats, dragons, magic, mech robots...

    Mixing too much stuff imo... I'll pass.



    You basically described Wow. It's doing just fine.

    The thing is - in WoW - all of those things actually mesh stylistically - and due to highly stylized art and excellent Blizzard art team - they pull it off well.


    In contrast - again in my opinion - in this game - it's lacking cohesion, it looks like a bunch of disparate concepts thrown together.
    I won't argue that.  But both games have these elements.  That's all I meant to say.  
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,019
    edited November 2017
    OG_Zorvan said:
    DMKano said:
    OG_Zorvan said:
    I consider neither Bluehole nor Kakao to be "AAA", so no.

    Well people can say - "I don't consider the Sun to be a star" - but they'd be wrong.

    Just because you don't consider them to be AAA - doesn't change the fact that they ARE AAA studios - Both TERA and BDO are AAA games.


    If TERA and BDO are examples of modern "AAA" games, then this genre is indeed fucked beyond repair. Being the shiniest turds in the bowl doesn't make them "AAA", it just makes them shiny turds.
    Your opinion still doesn't change the fact that they are AAA.  @DMKano is right, whether you agree or not.
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 2,691
    Thank goodness, finally a gender locked game. I am definitely looking forward to play this one. 
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    Thank goodness, finally a gender locked game. I am definitely looking forward to play this one. 
    It's really sad that all these MMORPGs have, at best, binary gender choices. I want a slider!
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