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this or XIV for a duo

Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
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  • kallenskallens Member UncommonPosts: 39
    I would say FFXIV, run a tank and a healer. ESO quests can be buggy when trying to run them together with someone else.
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    edited October 2017
    I say ESO. If you get top end in ESO and really good at playing your classes you can easily duo the group dungeons.
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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,472
    kallens said:
    I would say FFXIV, run a tank and a healer. ESO quests can be buggy when trying to run them together with someone else.
    They were at launch hasn't been an issue for a long time.

    When it first came out the game checked to - basically - see if all members of a group were on the same step of a quest chain. Good for immersion, bad for group play.

    Zenimax subsequently changed things so that most quests no longer have prerequisites. Bad for immersion but good for group play! Less load on the server as well. Now only "major events" have prerequisites. Same deal basically as WoW etc.  
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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,472
    As to your question @soki123 both games are "solid". Graphically they are very different but I assume that you are happy with both.

    Financially:  
    1. FFXIV has a free trial so maybe try this first? (ESO only occasionally has a free trial). 

    2. If still unsure try ESO? No sub needed as its b2p. And whatever version you get will give you moinths of content so you can decide later if you want to spend any more on it. You should be able to pick up a fairly cheap copy.

    3. And then decide if you want to go back to FFXIV maybe or stick with ESO?


    -both have lots of PvE quests; 
    - both have PvP although ESO has both PvP and Realm based stuff (PvP for people who don't like PvP!);
    - both games have multi-player dungeons - so stuff you will usually need a group / to use a group finder for;
    - both have stuff that usually needs many people but not necessarily grouped (co-op play);
    - FFXIV you focus on 1 of 4 classes; ESO just has damage/heal/tank roles - and you can change things around a lot almost on the fly. (There are some situations were you really need to focus on one of the three but typically you can change on the fly, swap gear and skills etc.) Bottomline: if you want dedicated focus - as some do - you might prefer FXIV; if you prefer flexibility - use any weapon, wear any gear - you might prefer ESO.
    ConstantineMerusMrMelGibson
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    FFXIV:ARR, my main character there is a Black mage for dps, scholar for healing, and paladin for tanking, its a great game for content, far better than ESO imo, though if you prefer PVP over PVE then ESO as FFXIV:ARR doesn't really do PVP all that well.
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  • BisloboBislobo Member UncommonPosts: 27
    Do you prefer pvp or pve? If pvp then ESO, it's great to duo in Cyrodiil. If you are more into pve, ESO is more about 4 player dungeons and 12 player trails, so you will need a good guild. I am giving you my insight, from an ESO player point of view. I know that XIV don't invest much into PvP and i also know that the endgame PvE is nice there... Never reached it though.
  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,131
    or doing raids/dungeons together I def say FFXIV. For just relax questing together I say ESO.
    MrMelGibson

  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,070
    edited October 2017
    I seem to remember you prefer more "classic" MMORPG combat... then you may (!) not like ESO's combat. This said, ESO has a sort of "trinity" with "real" tanks (relying more in CC and less on taunts, there's no threat) and "real" healers.

    In FFXIV you'll be screwed with only two for "end game". In ESO, not so much. If you really only want to duo, ESO seems the better choice to me.

    And as others have already said, ESO has awesome PvP in Cyrodiil.

    Also has the most flexible character development of class/level based MMORPGs. You can basically roll any class and be exactly the character you want to be, since there are no restrictions on weapons, armor and roles (a Dragonknight can be a healer, a Sorcerer can be a melee DPS or even a tank).

    Last but not least, if you mostly play with your duo but sometimes also do things alone, even if you get a few levels of difference with your co-player you will still be able to play together without any problems thanks to "One Tamriel".

    EDIT and PS: This is from someone who mostly plays in a group of 3 friends (me and 2 others). ESO is very friendly to that kind of gameplay. And we are still not "slaves" to each other, we can also play when the others aren't online and progress without harming our group.
    Post edited by Jean-Luc_Picard on
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,900
    ESO for sure.  FFXIV has too much personal instancing and you have to be playing ONLY together at the exact same time for it to be worthwhile.

    If either of you does anything that the other doesn't you are going to have to wait for them to catch up or vice versa.

    Also: you will have a SHITLOAD of crappy fetch quests from expansion filler to do in order to get to the populated areas.


    Source: Played with my wife.
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  • DarkswormDarksworm Member RarePosts: 990
    edited December 2017

    Duplicate.
  • DarkswormDarksworm Member RarePosts: 990
    edited December 2017
    ESO for sure.  FFXIV has too much personal instancing and you have to be playing ONLY together at the exact same time for it to be worthwhile.

    If either of you does anything that the other doesn't you are going to have to wait for them to catch up or vice versa.

    Also: you will have a SHITLOAD of crappy fetch quests from expansion filler to do in order to get to the populated areas.


    Source: Played with my wife.

    The bulk of your gameplay in those games is spent at max end game levels running dungeons, raids, and other comparable content.

    You act like there aren't a shit ton of fetch quests in ESO, and like the game doesn't send you across the world to do some of the most mundane, trivial things.

    The game is even set up so that you basically play through every faction's quest grind...  So you're probably going to do a ton more worthless quests in ESO than you have to do while leveling up in WoW of FFXIV - especially considering the Champion Point system in ESO.

    I cannot understand this criticism of FFXIV, especially from an ESO player (or anything trying to push ESO over it).  ESO is as much a quest hub factory game as WoW or FFXIV - even more so, IMO.  There are even a bunch of boring quests on Cyrodil, when you get there...
    MrMelGibson
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,070
    Darksworm said:

    The bulk of your gameplay in those games is spent at max end game levels running dungeons, raids, and other comparable content.
    Not in ESO. I still spend just as much time out in the world than I do doing dungeons, if not more.
    ESO is not a "raid or die" game.
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,900
    Darksworm said:
    ESO for sure.  FFXIV has too much personal instancing and you have to be playing ONLY together at the exact same time for it to be worthwhile.

    If either of you does anything that the other doesn't you are going to have to wait for them to catch up or vice versa.

    Also: you will have a SHITLOAD of crappy fetch quests from expansion filler to do in order to get to the populated areas.


    Source: Played with my wife.

    The bulk of your gameplay in those games is spent at max end game levels running dungeons, raids, and other comparable content.

    You act like there aren't a shit ton of fetch quests in ESO, and like the game doesn't send you across the world to do some of the most mundane, trivial things.

    The game is even set up so that you basically play through every faction's quest grind...  So you're probably going to do a ton more worthless quests in ESO than you have to do while leveling up in WoW of FFXIV - especially considering the Champion Point system in ESO.

    I cannot understand this criticism of FFXIV, especially from an ESO player (or anything trying to push ESO over it).  ESO is as much a quest hub factory game as WoW or FFXIV - even more so, IMO.  There are even a bunch of boring quests on Cyrodil, when you get there...
    Wrong.

    You literally have to be in lock step with your duo partner in FFXIV or it turns into a shitshow.  ESO is FAR more flexible.
    PhryCelciusScorchien
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,919
    edited December 2017
    Darksworm said:
    ESO for sure.  FFXIV has too much personal instancing and you have to be playing ONLY together at the exact same time for it to be worthwhile.

    If either of you does anything that the other doesn't you are going to have to wait for them to catch up or vice versa.

    Also: you will have a SHITLOAD of crappy fetch quests from expansion filler to do in order to get to the populated areas.


    Source: Played with my wife.

    The bulk of your gameplay in those games is spent at max end game levels running dungeons, raids, and other comparable content.

    You act like there aren't a shit ton of fetch quests in ESO, and like the game doesn't send you across the world to do some of the most mundane, trivial things.

    The game is even set up so that you basically play through every faction's quest grind...  So you're probably going to do a ton more worthless quests in ESO than you have to do while leveling up in WoW of FFXIV - especially considering the Champion Point system in ESO.

    I cannot understand this criticism of FFXIV, especially from an ESO player (or anything trying to push ESO over it).  ESO is as much a quest hub factory game as WoW or FFXIV - even more so, IMO.  There are even a bunch of boring quests on Cyrodil, when you get there...
    Wrong.

    You literally have to be in lock step with your duo partner in FFXIV or it turns into a shitshow.  ESO is FAR more flexible.
      This is not true , as one toon in FF14 can do all jobs.. Sooo  , when your friend /other is not on you can lvl  any of 10 other Jobs/Classes without effecting the class you are leveling with a friend/other .. So completly false info here ..
      Also to add you may find it benficial to lvl an other class to try out with your friend/other//


     But on point for the OP , both games are good and either would work .. Just see which one you and your friend like better ..
    MrMelGibson
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,900
    Scorchien said:
    Darksworm said:
    ESO for sure.  FFXIV has too much personal instancing and you have to be playing ONLY together at the exact same time for it to be worthwhile.

    If either of you does anything that the other doesn't you are going to have to wait for them to catch up or vice versa.

    Also: you will have a SHITLOAD of crappy fetch quests from expansion filler to do in order to get to the populated areas.


    Source: Played with my wife.

    The bulk of your gameplay in those games is spent at max end game levels running dungeons, raids, and other comparable content.

    You act like there aren't a shit ton of fetch quests in ESO, and like the game doesn't send you across the world to do some of the most mundane, trivial things.

    The game is even set up so that you basically play through every faction's quest grind...  So you're probably going to do a ton more worthless quests in ESO than you have to do while leveling up in WoW of FFXIV - especially considering the Champion Point system in ESO.

    I cannot understand this criticism of FFXIV, especially from an ESO player (or anything trying to push ESO over it).  ESO is as much a quest hub factory game as WoW or FFXIV - even more so, IMO.  There are even a bunch of boring quests on Cyrodil, when you get there...
    Wrong.

    You literally have to be in lock step with your duo partner in FFXIV or it turns into a shitshow.  ESO is FAR more flexible.
      This is not true , as one toon in FF14 can do all jobs.. Sooo  , when your friend /other is not on you can lvl  any of 10 other Jobs/Classes without effecting the class you are leveling with a friend/other .. So completly false info here ..
      Also to add you may find it benficial to lvl an other class to try out with your friend/other//


     But on point for the OP , both games are good and either would work .. Just see which one you and your friend like better ..
    So you're just going to ignore quests that are mandatory to do then?  Ok...

    If you're playing together with someone on FFXIV you can't play without the other person unless you want to waste a bunch of time waiting for them to catch up to you, or you follow them around repeating the same quests with them you've already done.

    OH!  And by the way you can't share quests so you will literally follow them around and just help kill shit and get nothing for it.

    I played FFXIV for YEARS, get out of here with that dumb shit.
    CelciusYashaXMrMelGibson
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,919
    edited December 2017
    Scorchien said:
    Darksworm said:
    ESO for sure.  FFXIV has too much personal instancing and you have to be playing ONLY together at the exact same time for it to be worthwhile.

    If either of you does anything that the other doesn't you are going to have to wait for them to catch up or vice versa.

    Also: you will have a SHITLOAD of crappy fetch quests from expansion filler to do in order to get to the populated areas.


    Source: Played with my wife.

    The bulk of your gameplay in those games is spent at max end game levels running dungeons, raids, and other comparable content.

    You act like there aren't a shit ton of fetch quests in ESO, and like the game doesn't send you across the world to do some of the most mundane, trivial things.

    The game is even set up so that you basically play through every faction's quest grind...  So you're probably going to do a ton more worthless quests in ESO than you have to do while leveling up in WoW of FFXIV - especially considering the Champion Point system in ESO.

    I cannot understand this criticism of FFXIV, especially from an ESO player (or anything trying to push ESO over it).  ESO is as much a quest hub factory game as WoW or FFXIV - even more so, IMO.  There are even a bunch of boring quests on Cyrodil, when you get there...
    Wrong.

    You literally have to be in lock step with your duo partner in FFXIV or it turns into a shitshow.  ESO is FAR more flexible.
      This is not true , as one toon in FF14 can do all jobs.. Sooo  , when your friend /other is not on you can lvl  any of 10 other Jobs/Classes without effecting the class you are leveling with a friend/other .. So completly false info here ..
      Also to add you may find it benficial to lvl an other class to try out with your friend/other//


     But on point for the OP , both games are good and either would work .. Just see which one you and your friend like better ..
    So you're just going to ignore quests that are mandatory to do then?  Ok...

    If you're playing together with someone on FFXIV you can't play without the other person unless you want to waste a bunch of time waiting for them to catch up to you, or you follow them around repeating the same quests with them you've already done.

    OH!  And by the way you can't share quests so you will literally follow them around and just help kill shit and get nothing for it.

    I played FFXIV for YEARS, get out of here with that dumb shit.
    Not true at all....  you can lvl any other Job with out doing those quests .. You would think you know that , .. beings you have played for years ..

      So if you are leveling a Bard with your Maurder friend /  and you both are at X point of MSQ .. and your friend isnt not on you switch to your  class Red Mage and can Lvl Roulette /Levemettes /Fates .. etc.. and never ever ever veer  off the course (of the StoryLine) with your friend ....As you then switch back to your lvl appropriate story appropriate Bard that you have been playing with your friend.. This process  will unlock Job related skills that would be beneficial to your main class also ... also helping you fund your main and alt jobs in seals and gil...

        But i digress

     It really very simple for anyone that has experience with FF14
    Post edited by Scorchien on
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  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Member RarePosts: 1,247
    People tell you in ESO you can have all the variety you want. You will quickly learn it is all about cookie cutter builds and moving from one quest to the next ticking off boxes.

    There really is no difference between the two. I would pick which ever you like the lore of more.


  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,070
    People tell you in ESO you can have all the variety you want. You will quickly learn it is all about cookie cutter builds...
    No it is not.

    ... and moving from one quest to the next ticking off boxes.
    No it is not.

    There really is no difference between the two.
    There's no difference between apples and oranges either. I mean, both are fruits, right?
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,878
    edited December 2017
    So many differences between the two it's best as someone suggested.  FFXIV free trial.  Then try ESO for awhile and stick with the one you like.  I went with ESO simply because most of the quests were voiced and FFIV had more written quests.  Also I can play ESO without a sub.  Both good games.
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,900
    edited December 2017
    People tell you in ESO you can have all the variety you want. You will quickly learn it is all about cookie cutter builds...
    No it is not.

    ... and moving from one quest to the next ticking off boxes.
    No it is not.

    There really is no difference between the two.
    There's no difference between apples and oranges either. I mean, both are fruits, right?
    Highly disagree on the first contention Jean-Luc.  There is no debating that the meta in ESO is a runaway train.

    I've never played a game where the meta performs 200% better than any other build.  

    Most games have a meta that outperforms everything else by 5-10%. 

    In ESO  not running a meta build is just plain stupid, as you're making your life considerably harder for no reason.

    It doesn't help that the devs design around that as the benchmark either.
    YashaXZenislav
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,900
    Scorchien said:
    Scorchien said:
    Darksworm said:
    ESO for sure.  FFXIV has too much personal instancing and you have to be playing ONLY together at the exact same time for it to be worthwhile.

    If either of you does anything that the other doesn't you are going to have to wait for them to catch up or vice versa.

    Also: you will have a SHITLOAD of crappy fetch quests from expansion filler to do in order to get to the populated areas.


    Source: Played with my wife.

    The bulk of your gameplay in those games is spent at max end game levels running dungeons, raids, and other comparable content.

    You act like there aren't a shit ton of fetch quests in ESO, and like the game doesn't send you across the world to do some of the most mundane, trivial things.

    The game is even set up so that you basically play through every faction's quest grind...  So you're probably going to do a ton more worthless quests in ESO than you have to do while leveling up in WoW of FFXIV - especially considering the Champion Point system in ESO.

    I cannot understand this criticism of FFXIV, especially from an ESO player (or anything trying to push ESO over it).  ESO is as much a quest hub factory game as WoW or FFXIV - even more so, IMO.  There are even a bunch of boring quests on Cyrodil, when you get there...
    Wrong.

    You literally have to be in lock step with your duo partner in FFXIV or it turns into a shitshow.  ESO is FAR more flexible.
      This is not true , as one toon in FF14 can do all jobs.. Sooo  , when your friend /other is not on you can lvl  any of 10 other Jobs/Classes without effecting the class you are leveling with a friend/other .. So completly false info here ..
      Also to add you may find it benficial to lvl an other class to try out with your friend/other//


     But on point for the OP , both games are good and either would work .. Just see which one you and your friend like better ..
    So you're just going to ignore quests that are mandatory to do then?  Ok...

    If you're playing together with someone on FFXIV you can't play without the other person unless you want to waste a bunch of time waiting for them to catch up to you, or you follow them around repeating the same quests with them you've already done.

    OH!  And by the way you can't share quests so you will literally follow them around and just help kill shit and get nothing for it.

    I played FFXIV for YEARS, get out of here with that dumb shit.
    Not true at all....  you can lvl any other Job with out doing those quests .. You would think you know that , .. beings you have played for years ..

      So if you are leveling a Bard with your Maurder friend /  and you both are at X point of MSQ .. and your friend isnt not on you switch to your  class Red Mage and can Lvl Roulette /Levemettes /Fates .. etc.. and never ever ever veer  off the course (of the StoryLine) with your friend ....As you then switch back to your lvl appropriate story appropriate Bard that you have been playing with your friend.. This process  will unlock Job related skills that would be beneficial to your main class also ... also helping you fund your main and alt jobs in seals and gil...

        But i digress

     It really very simple for anyone that has experience with FF14
    Yeah, you can make no progress in the one thing that prevents you from moving closer to endgame, brilliant!
  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,597
    edited December 2017
    ESO for sure. You can do pretty much everything in the game together with very few exceptions. (A couple of story quests and daily quests) FF14 has loads of solo only quests that take up the bulk of the leveling experience that you cannot play together and most end game content requires more then 2 people. In ESO you can even duo the top end dungeons with the right classes. There are a few raids as well that you cannot duo, but that is it really. Both games are pretty weak in the PvP department however, with ESO probably eeking out slightly higher with Cyrodil. 

    Also I can't believe someone mentioned cookie cutter builds for ESO. Someone clearly has not played the game very much. You can do everything with a wide variety of builds. I have done all the trials in the game without looking at a single build website and just totally winging it lol...in FF14 there is 0 character customization ;P Every job plays one way. 
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,900
    Celcius said:
    ESO for sure. You can do pretty much everything in the game together with very few exceptions. (A couple of story quests and daily quests) FF14 has loads of solo only quests that take up the bulk of the leveling experience that you cannot play together and most end game content requires more then 2 people. In ESO you can even duo the top end dungeons with the right classes. There are a few raids as well that you cannot duo, but that is it really. Both games are pretty weak in the PvP department however, with ESO probably eeking out slightly higher with Cyrodil. 

    Also I can't believe someone mentioned cookie cutter builds for ESO. Someone clearly has not played the game very much. You can do everything with a wide variety of builds. I have done all the trials in the game without looking at a single build website and just totally winging it lol...in FF14 there is 0 character customization ;P Every job plays one way. 
    Just because you didn't look up a guide doesn't mean you're not using a meta/fotm build lol.  In fact you would never know if you never looked!

    Not making a point about the build diversity debate atm, just an observation regarding your comment.
    YashaX
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,919
    edited December 2017
    Scorchien said:
    Scorchien said:
    Darksworm said:
    ESO for sure.  FFXIV has too much personal instancing and you have to be playing ONLY together at the exact same time for it to be worthwhile.

    If either of you does anything that the other doesn't you are going to have to wait for them to catch up or vice versa.

    Also: you will have a SHITLOAD of crappy fetch quests from expansion filler to do in order to get to the populated areas.


    Source: Played with my wife.

    The bulk of your gameplay in those games is spent at max end game levels running dungeons, raids, and other comparable content.

    You act like there aren't a shit ton of fetch quests in ESO, and like the game doesn't send you across the world to do some of the most mundane, trivial things.

    The game is even set up so that you basically play through every faction's quest grind...  So you're probably going to do a ton more worthless quests in ESO than you have to do while leveling up in WoW of FFXIV - especially considering the Champion Point system in ESO.

    I cannot understand this criticism of FFXIV, especially from an ESO player (or anything trying to push ESO over it).  ESO is as much a quest hub factory game as WoW or FFXIV - even more so, IMO.  There are even a bunch of boring quests on Cyrodil, when you get there...
    Wrong.

    You literally have to be in lock step with your duo partner in FFXIV or it turns into a shitshow.  ESO is FAR more flexible.
      This is not true , as one toon in FF14 can do all jobs.. Sooo  , when your friend /other is not on you can lvl  any of 10 other Jobs/Classes without effecting the class you are leveling with a friend/other .. So completly false info here ..
      Also to add you may find it benficial to lvl an other class to try out with your friend/other//


     But on point for the OP , both games are good and either would work .. Just see which one you and your friend like better ..
    So you're just going to ignore quests that are mandatory to do then?  Ok...

    If you're playing together with someone on FFXIV you can't play without the other person unless you want to waste a bunch of time waiting for them to catch up to you, or you follow them around repeating the same quests with them you've already done.

    OH!  And by the way you can't share quests so you will literally follow them around and just help kill shit and get nothing for it.

    I played FFXIV for YEARS, get out of here with that dumb shit.
    Not true at all....  you can lvl any other Job with out doing those quests .. You would think you know that , .. beings you have played for years ..

      So if you are leveling a Bard with your Maurder friend /  and you both are at X point of MSQ .. and your friend isnt not on you switch to your  class Red Mage and can Lvl Roulette /Levemettes /Fates .. etc.. and never ever ever veer  off the course (of the StoryLine) with your friend ....As you then switch back to your lvl appropriate story appropriate Bard that you have been playing with your friend.. This process  will unlock Job related skills that would be beneficial to your main class also ... also helping you fund your main and alt jobs in seals and gil...

        But i digress

     It really very simple for anyone that has experience with FF14
    Yeah, you can make no progress in the one thing that prevents you from moving closer to endgame, brilliant!
    You do make progress in game ,and towards end game as you lvl other jobs to unlock shared job Skills ..etc also..  at end game you need lots of seals/currencies , you need ventures .. you need crafting mats .. Even when you complete SB you still need to do these things to ... But you would know that if you played seriously at all... and knew the game with other than the most basic gameplay and approach...

      Also by leveling other Jobs you are making yourself more useful to your friend and FC and any group that you may encounter .. Which will help you build a better reputation in game .. which ALL will be beneficial to the ONE thing getting you closer to endgame

     you have an agenda here and are moving the goalposts and spewing out falsehoods to froward an agenda of ESO , not a good look ..

      Both games are good and have great set ups for a couple to play they need to try or watch some vids and decide which may suit them better ..
  • DeadSpockDeadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 364
    I'm burned out of both those games just bought BDO let's see how this goes.
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