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The 10 Best PVP MMOs of All Time - The List - MMORPG.com

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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 2,332
    How come is not on the list?
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  • Mighty_PlatypusMighty_Platypus Member UncommonPosts: 100
    There are too many PvP games to list. I got worried SB wasn't on the list, and boom there it was at #3. DAOC is of course the best, but there are a lot of great PvP games. Warhammer for sure, L2 was amazing for its time. Even Aion could get argued onto this list. The fact is there are a lot of great ones, and honestly I think a lot of what makes them great (specifically DAOC, god I miss it)is being lost today.
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  • KellerKeller Member UncommonPosts: 558
    ESO and GW2 basicly have the same type of world PvP. Choose one, drop the other.

    Maybe not the best PvP, but I enjoyed world pvp in WoW vanilla. The battle for Tarren Mill, the assaults on X-roads, the defense of the Tram. No loot, no gains, no nothing, just fun and giggles. (oh the first few weeks, the feign death was still unkown to many) Blocking the entrance of BWL and MC in Blackrock Mountain. The massacres outside AQ. The bloodbaths at the portal to Naxxramas in EPL.
    Alterac Valley with its never-ending matches. A lot of players had their first pvp experience in WoW.
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  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 2,891
    edited September 2017
    Edit: misread
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  • AmatheAmathe Member EpicPosts: 4,137
    No love for WoW. Interesting.
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  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 2,891
    Amathe said:
    No love for WoW. Interesting.

    For this list’s sake, we’re focusing on games that made PVP a real priority in their design. So while some folks adore and still play World of Warcraft’s Battlegrounds, it’s out of the running. We’re talking about the games (that have already been released) which make player versus player a cornerstone of the gameplay as a whole.

  • Jonnyp2Jonnyp2 Member UncommonPosts: 243
    edited September 2017

    Forgrimm said:


    Amathe said:

    No love for WoW. Interesting.


    For this list’s sake, we’re focusing on games that made PVP a real priority in their design. So while some folks adore and still play World of Warcraft’s Battlegrounds, it’s out of the running. We’re talking about the games (that have already been released) which make player versus player a cornerstone of the gameplay as a whole.




    I don't think they should diminish WoW by claiming 'some folks still adore and play WoW battlegrounds' as if the PvP population isn't larger than any of the games on the list. Blizzard introduced a multitude of PvP specific changes for Legion alone... obviously most of them weren't great, but the point stands. Also consider how Blizzard attempted to push arena as an esport for years... I just don't see how anyone can say PvP has no priority in WoW's development.
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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,366
    Agreed Lineage 2 should've been on the list. Other than that, I couldn't agree more. Really happy Shadowbane made it.
  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    1. DAOC, everything else 100......... Nothing comes close to DAOC in this area and surprisingly it s still king to this day by a mile.

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  • SavilzSavilz Member UncommonPosts: 53
    Fk yea DAOC - Original Player... I still can't find anything that comes close to the feel of DAOC pvp... God how I miss it back in the days of Emain as a stealther...
    RawynTsiya
  • skaaz1skaaz1 Member UncommonPosts: 22
    Played 2 of them. I do wish I would of taken time to try out DAOC in its prime.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 11,835
    No Warhammer Online? Strange.
    Because they messed it up when they decided to copy WOW and add 15 minute instanced PVP to it which undermined the RVR when half your force would disappear when the scenario queue popped.

    DAoC's 3-sided RvR worked. Warhammer's 2-sided one didn't.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 5,930
    DAoC and SWG were defintely my favorites. Despite not being OWPvP, I think DAoC captured all the "right" elements of a competitive atmosphere without all the griefing / ganking drama.
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  • Karnage69Karnage69 Member UncommonPosts: 317
    I love that they did not put WoW on this list, however, I am curious why Warhammer Online wasn't on there. Easily some of the best sieges and small scale pvp. Oh well.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 6,927

    Iselin said:



    No Warhammer Online? Strange.


    Because they messed it up when they decided to copy WOW and add 15 minute instanced PVP to it which undermined the RVR when half your force would disappear when the scenario queue popped.

    DAoC's 3-sided RvR worked. Warhammer's 2-sided one didn't.



    I agree. I'm seriously baffled as to why DAoC's persistent battlegrounds system didn't become more popular.


    It's still the absolute best pre-level cap PvP experience I've ever had. Like a mini-frontiers.
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  • DavodtheTuttDavodtheTutt Member UncommonPosts: 362
    Not a fan of PvP. I can appreciate wanting to have more of a challenge than the typical NPCs bring to PvE. However, for me, in practice, PvP just means getting stomped all the time by kids with fast reflexes, expensive machines, high-end internet connections and/or not so much else they need to do besides spend hours getting good at a game.

    I'm hoping they'll produce an interesting list of the top games that didn't make it out of the gate or never really got off the ground. I'm fascinated by potential that didn't get realized, possible greatness brought low by external factors. Hope that one has a lot of writing.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member EpicPosts: 14,951
    edited September 2017
    Believe it or not FFXI pvp was better than most all of these games and was held in the open game world not some instance.Thing is for the players we had a greater PVE experience so we didn't need pvp to fall back on.I assume also that because pvp was not so much about being better because of gear and more time spent that did not entice more pvp players.
    As to mention of L2,i played that game,never cared to pvp and actually had two players chase me while watching,they were way higher level than me which made it just dumb,how is pvp good if you can just auto win with higher levels/stats.As well they were too lazy to actually incorporate the castle,it was just an outside fake system.I played a game a number of years ago that actually had pvp within the guild halls,so not some fake castle wall.

    I seriously don't understand the mentality of pvp in a mmorpg,as you can never replicate a realistic scenario for pvp which is why almost always in some instance.Like why are people pvp'ing in these games,just because it is there or does it make any sense within the game Lore/realm what reasons?
    A very old game named RFO "Rising Force online" used to congregate players together for pvp to earn the rights to an area for farming,it made sense and was part of the reason and the game design,not just some pvp to say you win or beat the other guy.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member EpicPosts: 14,951
    When i look at PUBG's popularity,it pretty much answered my own question,people are pvp'ing for very shallow reasons,just to say I WIN.So to think adding a rpg element into pvp doesn't change anything except allowing the ability to gaining an advantage through time played or better gear/stats.
    IDK about anyone else but i don't enjoy pvp unless it is straight up across the board fair,NO advantages of any kind.Even in the hayday of Unreal or Quake,people were very adamant about pings to keep the pvp fair,now a days people seem to be more in favor of advantages or unfair pvp even to the point of using cash shops.

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  • goemoegoemoe Member UncommonPosts: 214
    Useless without text to explain the choices of the author.
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  • JusTnRJusTnR Member UncommonPosts: 5
    You never played and see Knight Online ? . So u r not a really player . The best pvp all of the time with Knight Online .
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,493

    Torval said:

    Bill you shall be soundly scolded for not having Lineage on that list, let alone not in the top 5.

    It was a great write up. You used words I can understand. :lol:



    Agreed!
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  • LobotomistLobotomist Member RarePosts: 5,714
    But whats up with lack of WAR ?

    Anything can be said about the game but its PVP was amazing , and it was the thing everyone enjoyed
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  • berlightberlight Member UncommonPosts: 292
    Lineage 2 is a must in that list!Open world PK's, full drop, castle sieges, clan war, alliance war...how something like this is not on that list. Even today is one of the most played games and it started before WoW..
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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 5,821
    Can't disagree with the number one position for sure.
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 19,275
    The list is WRONG

































    ( i am joking, relax)
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