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Black Desert Online now has over 28K players on STEAM

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,973
    Then there are players like me who give a game a break for about 6 months or so but when I do come back, usually during a sale or expansion, I usually buy stuff in the cash shop and probably end up spending as much as I would have spent if I had played the entire time.

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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    I suspect FFXIV has more players overall, since it's a lot more casual friendly and has no open world pvp, but yeah, anyone playing BDO can easily see that the game us doing very well for itself. I'm not surprised about the Skyrim thing though. Single player games have always done better than MMO's overall, and Skyrim's one of the most popular titles at that.

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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    edited September 2017
    Nyctelios said:
    Kinda misleading to assume that online count is people playing the game. If you played it you would know most activities can be/ are done afk. Most of those numbers are simply people fishing, running in circles with or without a horse.

    I don't take the merit of the game. I'm playing the Brazilian version/server of BDO and I'm in love with it... It is just what it is: Those numbers are not a correct sum of online active players as much EvE numbers are not precise due multi accounts and bots.
    they aren't supposed to be scientific, but how many players are ON (and using Steam, so its not even ALL the player base of the above games). 

    In Ultima Online, a huge portion of the playerbase is AFK botting (or macroing they call it, same thing). Plus multi accounts are very common.

    In WoW, quite a few people just stand in a city waiting for queues to pop. Plus multi accounts are pretty common, I've met quite a few people who multi account since they don't want to bother with groups for dungeons.

    Your EVE example of course.

    And any number of other MMOs. This isn't a scientific study where posters post numbers and spend 10s of thousands or 100s of thousands of government tax funded money to find statistics of how many people are on and are active and aren't multi accounts and any number of variances.

    No MMO can have scientific numbers, not ESO, not FFXIV not GW2. Even 100s of thousands of dollars worth of research still may not go through ALL the variances of active players and all that stuff.
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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,029
    Sephiroso said:
    MaxBacon said:
    MaxBacon said:
    DMKano said:
    When the game was down for maintenance - all servers off - it showed 6006 players as "playing"

    How is that possible? Yep AFK players
    Game Launchers.

    It's a well-known thing within MMO's and their launchers that steam counts them as online if you are in the launcher, it's the case in many of them as people could tell. When FF XIV was down they also showed 4-6k players online.
    Any proof to your claim?  I'd like clarification before I take you on your word.  No offense.
    You might check many big existent discussions about this in Steam and all, of course, the developers and Valve are silent about the manipulation of numbers.

    But it's known once this MMO's are in globally down in maintenance, thousands are still playing them, that's when it became clear that steam only sees the executable the library starts (the launcher) and not the executable the launcher starts.
    Are people really disputing what you're saying? Jesus. People it's just like Discord. Discord shows people as playing "World of Warcraft" even if they've been disconnected and they simply have the login screen up.

    It 100% shows people as playing "x game" when they simply have the launcher up. One example is Neverwinter Online.
    I wasn't disputing anything.  I wanted clarification on his statement.   Unless you live in alternate fact reality, that's how it usually works.  Make a claim, be ready to back it up with facts.
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,029
    Nyctelios said:
    Sephiroso said:
    MaxBacon said:
    MaxBacon said:
    DMKano said:
    When the game was down for maintenance - all servers off - it showed 6006 players as "playing"

    How is that possible? Yep AFK players
    Game Launchers.

    It's a well-known thing within MMO's and their launchers that steam counts them as online if you are in the launcher, it's the case in many of them as people could tell. When FF XIV was down they also showed 4-6k players online.
    Any proof to your claim?  I'd like clarification before I take you on your word.  No offense.
    You might check many big existent discussions about this in Steam and all, of course, the developers and Valve are silent about the manipulation of numbers.

    But it's known once this MMO's are in globally down in maintenance, thousands are still playing them, that's when it became clear that steam only sees the executable the library starts (the launcher) and not the executable the launcher starts.
    Are people really disputing what you're saying? Jesus. People it's just like Discord. Discord shows people as playing "World of Warcraft" even if they've been disconnected and they simply have the login screen up.

    It 100% shows people as playing "x game" when they simply have the launcher up. One example is Neverwinter Online.
    I wasn't disputing anything.  I wanted clarification on his statement.   Unless you live in alternate fact reality, that's how it usually works.  Make a claim, be ready to back it up with facts.
    He is right, tho.

    If you open the patcher to download or update and go to sleep with it on, for steam and steam chart / steam spy you played the entire night.
    I agree, and when he replied to my comment I was informed.  Just wanted to know if it was true before I took it as fact.
  • strykr619strykr619 Member UncommonPosts: 282
    edited September 2017
    Why would any person buy an mmo thru steam? They must vote democrat. 
  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Keep in mind, that is true for most (maybe all? dunno) steam MMOs. I left the Ryzom launcher running over night because forgot to close it and it still showed as online. And I think that was the same with RIFT, I left it running all day (the launcher) and forgot to close it lol.

    Not saying it means that one should ignore that. That is true for any steam charts is anyone can leave it running, so that dilutes(?)/takes away the actual players playing the game since many steam players may leave their game or launcher running. That is true with Skyrim as well, you can leave the launcher running. So while skyrim in total has 30k "active" players, not everyone will be in the game and a portion of those will be in the launcher. Same with most other games.

    Also have to take fact that every steam game, someone can be in the menu and not actually playing or in the game. But like I said, it isn't a scientific observation but what is reported by steam charts.

    Which btw, I added RIFT to the comparison I made above with various MMOs. I forgot about that one.

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  • HunctucavetoHunctucaveto Member UncommonPosts: 20
    Came late to the party here, but a couple of thoughts,
    1. Wow the fanboys are out in force here.
    2. "Black Desert Online now has over 28K players on STEAM" and...we care why?

  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,153
    edited September 2017
    Oh no its like the stock market its crashing !

    http://steamcharts.com/app/582660#All

    All I see is a slow decline in the graph :3.

    Meanwhile I had $3 in bitcoin from a few years ago it increased to $80 I cashed out before it started to decline man if only I had known it would have went up 5000%

  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Came late to the party here, but a couple of thoughts,
    1. Wow the fanboys are out in force here.
    2. "Black Desert Online now has over 28K players on STEAM" and...we care why?

    Care enough to spend time posting.

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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    edited September 2017
    Renoaku said:
    Oh no its like the stock market its crashing !

    http://steamcharts.com/app/582660#All

    All I see is a slow decline in the graph :3.

    Meanwhile I had $3 in bitcoin from a few years ago it increased to $80 I cashed out before it started to decline man if only I had known it would have went up 5000%

    yeah, looking at that gives a good view of the steam graph of people playing the game. It did go down quite a bit over time

    If you look the past month

    http://steamcharts.com/app/582660#1m

    The results are pretty stable, always above 10k

    If you do past 3 months

    http://steamcharts.com/app/582660#3m

    The population definitely went down, was going above 20k playing on steam or having launcher open or afk or whatever. Though maybe during that peak in mid/late June and July they released a new content patch or released something. Especially since most people just hop on when something new is added. Cause early June pop went down a bit, and was up in late May.

    http://steamcharts.com/app/582660#6m

    Though looking at that, population (on Steam) has dropped by about half going from May to now, content patch or not. Seems to be stable at 10k for now, and it'll probably peak up again when they release a new class. Other than that, has lost (steam) players over the past months 


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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    That gun control bit always confuses me when people use it- are you asserting that the criminals manufacture their own guns?  Because if not, then gun control laws will decrease the number of guns that reach the general public, thereby reducing the number of those that fall into the hands of criminals.  /offtopic

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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    It'll spike again when Kama drops. Provided it ever does of course. ;)

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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    It'll spike again when Kama drops. Provided it ever does of course. ;)
    well the next class is the Mystic I think or something. There might be a spike when that drops, though I know more people are waiting for Kama than Mystic.
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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    It'll spike again when Kama drops. Provided it ever does of course. ;)
    well the next class is the Mystic I think or something. There might be a spike when that drops, though I know more people are waiting for Kama than Mystic.
    Yeah. They said NA/EU will get Kama before we get Mystic though... so now it's a matter of waiting to see whether we actually do :P
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  • time007time007 Member UncommonPosts: 1,062
    i think this calls for a yippee doo
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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    As a heads up to active player numbers. 

    There is an event to get Lauren Family Coins and every hour logged in the game (pretty sure that is what I read) gets you 10 coins. 30 coins lets you get a gift box with a bunch of items in it.

    So I bet a lot of people are just AFKing (like I am) to get the coins.

    Is that a bad thing though? I dunno, it at least makes the world feel more lively and less empty. I did notice a lot of mechanics get people's characters in the world to do afk stuff in (like fishing). And it gets people in the game even if they might not be in the game and doing other stuff (like for the Lauren event). 

    But it does inflate player numbers that might not actually be active and doing stuff. 

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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    To clarify. You DO get coins for a special chest every hour. But you are limited to 50 coins, which means 5 hours a day. That still means a lot of people get on to AFK collect coins. Which a lot of people DO afk in this game with various activities. 

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