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When PvP Isn't About the Kill - MMORPG.com
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When PvP Isn't About the Kill - MMORPG.com
This week Tim Eisen talks about what drove him and what currently drives him to PVP in MMORPGs.
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Large, complex, persistent PVP has always been what I like. The more opportunity a game gives me for strategy and tactics, misdirection, feints and massive assaults the more I play it.
That's not to say that those large battles don't also have some coincidental 1v1 or small skirmishes and they can be fun too. But I only really stick with that for any period of time when it's part of a larger whole as in setting ambushes for those trying to reinforce the enemy lines.
The fun is in the strategy and tactics, making complex plans and then playing those out.
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Sounds like it comes down to real live people provide more of a challenge than AI (PvE) and that forces people to work together, make plans, and rely on each other.
Which is what they should do in any MMORPG, but in the PvE you get swamped with people who just want to level up as fast as possible, and they can because there's no real people standing in their way, so they don't bother with all that.
Also, I see references to large battles and persistence, and I think the former is mostly because that's what leads to the latter -- guild wars and individual battles contribute to holding onto territory -- unlike running through a PvE game, this allows you to feel like you've played a part in something that lasts, something that the people fighting with you appreciate.
And I think I've come to have more respect and appreciation for the whole PvP scene.
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Most "challenges" in most games are so easy now that people wont bother using any tactics at all, just running around and smashing things.
Real players will be challenging (at least if the powergap between your team and the enemy is within acceptable reach) since good players will use tactical decisions to use the games mechanics and outsmart your tactics. Even very basic mechanics work there.
The average MMO AI is really dumb and when they nerf down the mobs HP and damage while using a very basic system it wont get complex unless you face the toughest things in the game.
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If gear is involved or its not almost strictly a skill-based game (ala MMORPGs, with the levels and gear systems), I prefer the large scale as well. Less focus on what you're wearing compared to your opponent, more focused on how you use you and your opponent's advantages/disadvantages in the best manner possible.
That's the question I was going to ask.
I have tried so many games that are so disappointing... lack of pvp and lack of challenge. So many games I have tried are so easy you can hardly die if you tried.
I played Dark age of Camelot for years untell the PVP server died.
I long for a good PVP game.... hopefully Camelot unchained will satisfy when it's finally released.