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Next Trend in gaming?

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  • EldurianEldurian Member EpicPosts: 2,736
    SEANMCAD said:
    ok even this hard core survivalist gamer can admit that block building survival games (although I love) are hitting a wall in new content. Its not (in my view) nearly as bad as FPS games and other more long standing genres but I can say its time for something new

    So what new (POSITIVE) trend in game play do you see possibly coming around the corner.

    More of a feature then a game play genre I think intense weather is going to become more common. Not just weather that is mildly part of your experience but I mean like friggin tornadoes tearing down your base kind of weather

    That and Westerns I think will be the next trend
    I think block based building hit it's wall with Minecraft. If you don't like vanilla then mod it up. Block based builders other than Minecraft are no more innovative or useful to the market than WoW clones IMO.

    What it opened the door for is more titles that include terraforming and construction as major features of gameplay. Implementing those features in a new and unique package is what sets a good survival game / sandbox from a bad one IMO. I would disagree that's hit any kind of wall, but I would agree that it's a feature that has many titles offering that and it's time to look for other more innovative things to bring into the market at this point. Not to say it should be discarded, just that it shouldn't be the primary selling point of a game.

    I'm not sure it should be the next trend in gaming, but I feel the next trend in gaming should be an overhaul of PvE. Redesign spawns, redesign AI, and redesign dungeons.

    Wiki's and youtube have taken away the mystery from PvE. When you can look up the stats of an enemy to learn it's weakness and there are youtube videos that walk you through dungeons step by step then dungeons have really lost something. You're never wondering what you are up against, you're never having to strategize on how to tackle problems, many of the things that made PvE engaging in the early days of MMO are simply gone.

    Change it up. Make it random. Make it so I don't know what's hiding around the corner anymore. Make it so I don't know if a rogue with lockpicking or a healer with cure poison is the best party member to bring into the dungeon I'm about to do. I don't know what boss we'll face, I don't know what challenges we'll face along the way. I just know we're running a medium difficulty dungeon and that could mean many things.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited July 2017
    Eldurian said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    ok even this hard core survivalist gamer can admit that block building survival games (although I love) are hitting a wall in new content. Its not (in my view) nearly as bad as FPS games and other more long standing genres but I can say its time for something new

    So what new (POSITIVE) trend in game play do you see possibly coming around the corner.

    More of a feature then a game play genre I think intense weather is going to become more common. Not just weather that is mildly part of your experience but I mean like friggin tornadoes tearing down your base kind of weather

    That and Westerns I think will be the next trend
    I think block based building hit it's wall with Minecraft. I...
    oh my god no!!!!!

     could not disagree more Space Engineers, 7 Days to Die, From the Depths, Star Made, Emperium Galaxic surival? are you fucking joking me?

    those games are amazing and (in my opinion) light years better than minecraft wow...that opening statement took me aback quite a bit

    also as a side note, RNG of PVE mobs and location of mobs and having the mobs roam is now fairly common place in the games I listed. not all of them I listed but I think most of them.

    I think the people who are not in the pool of early access single player games have nearly zero idea what amazing things are happening currently.
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  • MikaelJordanMikaelJordan Member CommonPosts: 20
    I also think the next development of the gaming industry that there will be no specific genre for a game. Like everything just mixed together, you might think it's a "hot pot" but here's why.

    Why? Since personally, I like the idea of that, and I believe lots of gamers do, too.
    Example, in Far Cry 4, after liberating an outpost, you can choose to develop it become your base, trading, attracting more people to come, some will gather, mine the resources, the others join as soldier, you train them so they fight better and help you in mission, guiding your base or assist you in a mission. Big scale - Go and invade another base, expand your territory.

    So basically, Far Cry 4 firstly is an RPG/FPS game but now it becomes so much more interesting with Strategy and Simulation functions, feature.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    I also think the next development of the gaming industry that there will be no specific genre for a game. Like everything just mixed together, you might think it's a "hot pot" but here's why.

    Why? Since personally, I like the idea of that, and I believe lots of gamers do, too.
    Example, in Far Cry 4, after liberating an outpost, you can choose to develop it become your base, trading, attracting more people to come, some will gather, mine the resources, the others join as soldier, you train them so they fight better and help you in mission, guiding your base or assist you in a mission. Big scale - Go and invade another base, expand your territory.

    So basically, Far Cry 4 firstly is an RPG/FPS game but now it becomes so much more interesting with Strategy and Simulation functions, feature.
    fairly common in the Steam Early Access world. empyrion galactic survival for example, build, farm, gather, hunt, mob fight, fly into outerspace to different planets.

    and that is just one example.

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  • DidipopzDidipopz Member UncommonPosts: 36
    I don't know about Genre, but it will be more focused on VR i think.
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  • intrinscintrinsc Member UncommonPosts: 98
    I don't think VR will be such a huge part of gaming as perhaps some 'hope' it will be. It will probably be slightly larger than what 3D TVs were to that industry.
  • timeraidertimeraider Member UncommonPosts: 865
    More intense weather is always nice to see (though optimisation ofcourse needs to be better).
    Aside from that im to basic to think of more XD
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Yes as pointed out by a user or two.CLOUD GAMING is the next wave but that is not really game ideas but more so a more powerful way to allow games to get better.

    The couple ideas i saw where Cloud gaming was really used heavily were not that great of games.It show how far we really are from attaining a truly immersive fully fledged VR game.Almost every aspect of cloud gaming is to be able to handle massive particles/pieces of debris for the sake of exploding surfaces.
    As cool as exploding/destructive surfaces are,that is only a very small part of what makes a great game but these games will typically aim for that one gimmick and not a complete game.

    Like i said in the past a few times,let's see a developer gives us the great game first then we can talk about destructive and immersive and VR,right now we are still 10+ years away.

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  • LackingMMOLackingMMO Member RarePosts: 664
    Wizardry said:
    Yes as pointed out by a user or two.CLOUD GAMING is the next wave but that is not really game ideas but more so a more powerful way to allow games to get better.

    The couple ideas i saw where Cloud gaming was really used heavily were not that great of games.It show how far we really are from attaining a truly immersive fully fledged VR game.Almost every aspect of cloud gaming is to be able to handle massive particles/pieces of debris for the sake of exploding surfaces.
    As cool as exploding/destructive surfaces are,that is only a very small part of what makes a great game but these games will typically aim for that one gimmick and not a complete game.

    Like i said in the past a few times,let's see a developer gives us the great game first then we can talk about destructive and immersive and VR,right now we are still 10+ years away.

    Completely agree with this, devs hit on trigger words to make people Go "ohhhh" but the core is shallow. Give me a great core then add in the fluff.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,373
    As has so often the case, monetization of gaming will continue to break new ground.

    I see the rise of crypto currencies in game trading having significant impact in the next 10 years.


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 16,927
    Kyleran said:
    As has so often the case, monetization of gaming will continue to break new ground.

    I see the rise of crypto currencies in game trading having significant impact in the next 10 years.


    And once there's money involved... the taxman shall follow.

    I can't wait until I have to itemize my items to pay my virtual property taxes.


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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Cloud computing is not going to create massive, complex, richly detailed game worlds.

    Things like SpatialOS allow you to use thousands of virtual servers simultaneously (in theory), but those virtual servers have to be paid for. SpatialOS just gives you loads of rope, you can hang yourself if you like.

    The possibility is certainly there, but but the cost will be the limiting factor. Game developers are not going to build games that require a 1000 virtual servers to run, unless the costs can be recouped. Cloud computing is not free...
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  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,772
    I think they'll keep working on VR games until they finally make one that is actually good.

    As far as genre trends (like the recent survival trend), it's hard to tell.  Normally, a smallish game does something new and it's somewhat successful and then immediately spawns 100 games that are similar (although I'd be hard-pressed to pinpoint the one game that spawned the survival trend).

    I expected more games like Overwatch and suspect a few are in the works, but maybe people are wary because they realize they are not going to compete well with Blizzard.



  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    intrinsc said:
    I don't think VR will be such a huge part of gaming as perhaps some 'hope' it will be. It will probably be slightly larger than what 3D TVs were to that industry.
    The potential is far better then 3D TV but it will still be for the people average Joe call "nerds". 3D TV was as stupid idea in the 10s as in the 80s.

    VR have huge potential for certain types of games but the average "gamer" mainly play tower defense and Candy crush or similar games anyways. 

    For this type of game VR is perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ruckp8-vI0

    For FPS, not so much unless you get one of these: 
    And yeah, arcades might get those but normal people wont. So expect VR in sims, porn and RPGs but not so much in other genres for the next 10 years.
  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Member RarePosts: 1,764
    Loke666 said:
    intrinsc said:
    I don't think VR will be such a huge part of gaming as perhaps some 'hope' it will be. It will probably be slightly larger than what 3D TVs were to that industry.
    The potential is far better then 3D TV but it will still be for the people average Joe call "nerds". 3D TV was as stupid idea in the 10s as in the 80s.

    VR have huge potential for certain types of games but the average "gamer" mainly play tower defense and Candy crush or similar games anyways. 

    For this type of game VR is perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ruckp8-vI0

    For FPS, not so much unless you get one of these: 
    And yeah, arcades might get those but normal people wont. So expect VR in sims, porn and RPGs but not so much in other genres for the next 10 years.
    It's definitely fun, but VR still has a long ways to go so it's nothing I will invest any time in just yet.
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,000
    Kyleran said:
    As has so often the case, monetization of gaming will continue to break new ground.

    I see the rise of crypto currencies in game trading having significant impact in the next 10 years.


    And once there's money involved... the taxman shall follow.

    I can't wait until I have to itemize my items to pay my virtual property taxes.


    Just remember some people have left their day jobs to run virtual businesses in Second Life because they were making more money selling virtual designer clothes and homes.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,373
    edited July 2017
    Kyleran said:
    As has so often the case, monetization of gaming will continue to break new ground.

    I see the rise of crypto currencies in game trading having significant impact in the next 10 years.


    And once there's money involved... the taxman shall follow.

    I can't wait until I have to itemize my items to pay my virtual property taxes.


    Just remember some people have left their day jobs to run virtual businesses in Second Life because they were making more money selling virtual designer clothes and homes.
    You should read Neverdie's prospectus to convince game developers to start charging gamers real life currency for fast travel options (i.e. 10 cents per transport) and convenience within and between games instead of giving it away for free.

    It's a crazy proposal, but he's  promising Devs it's a road to billions. 


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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    I rather like the concept of Hobo Tough Life.
    A survival RPG in which you play a Hobo. Now the game itself still needs a LOT of work and my opinion is he put it in Steam Early Access to soon but the concept is awesome.

    i still think we are going to start seeing serious weather in more and more games and I dont mean weather that is immersive, I mean weather that can kill you, flood your base, knock down walls

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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    SEANMCAD said:



    That and Westerns I think will be the next trend
    Lmao. Awesome insight. 

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,769
    Amathe said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    That and Westerns I think will be the next trend
    Lmao. Awesome insight. 

    Isn't there a western mmoRPG coming out that has been talked about around these parts?  If so, great "insight".  haha.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    waynejr2 said:
    Amathe said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    That and Westerns I think will be the next trend
    Lmao. Awesome insight. 

    Isn't there a western mmoRPG coming out that has been talked about around these parts?  If so, great "insight".  haha.
    Yes but one game is not a trend. 

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited July 2017
    Amathe said:
    waynejr2 said:
    Amathe said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    That and Westerns I think will be the next trend
    Lmao. Awesome insight. 

    Isn't there a western mmoRPG coming out that has been talked about around these parts?  If so, great "insight".  haha.
    Yes but one game is not a trend. 
    so my OP doesnt ask 'what trends do you see currently in the market' but rather 'which trends do you see COMING into the market' at least best I can recall that was what I said and it was my intent.

    asking what is current is easy

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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    SEANMCAD said:
    Yes but one game is not a trend. 
    so my OP doesnt ask 'what trends do you see currently in the market' but rather 'which trends do you see COMING into the market' at least best I can recall that was what I said and it was my intent.

    asking what is current is easy
    Oh so just make things up with no time reference? Ok. I see games about lizards eating butterflies trending ... someday. 

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Amathe said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Yes but one game is not a trend. 
    so my OP doesnt ask 'what trends do you see currently in the market' but rather 'which trends do you see COMING into the market' at least best I can recall that was what I said and it was my intent.

    asking what is current is easy
    Oh so just make things up with no time reference? Ok. I see games about lizards eating butterflies trending ... someday. 
    what?

    you have never in your life have someone ask you 'what do you think the next upcoming trend is going to be' without having a remote understanding of what the person is asking you?

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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    SEANMCAD said:
    Amathe said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Yes but one game is not a trend. 
    so my OP doesnt ask 'what trends do you see currently in the market' but rather 'which trends do you see COMING into the market' at least best I can recall that was what I said and it was my intent.

    asking what is current is easy
    Oh so just make things up with no time reference? Ok. I see games about lizards eating butterflies trending ... someday. 
    what?

    you have never in your life have someone ask you 'what do you think the next upcoming trend is going to be' without having a remote understanding of what the person is asking you?
    I assume they (would not waste their time and mine if I had no factual basis to support my answer to their question. 

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