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Rise of the Necromancer Now Out in North America - Diablo 3 - MMORPG.com

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Diablo 3 News - The Diablo 3 add-on, Rise of the Necromancer, is now live in North America. EU players will see the new update go live at approximately 11:00 pm CEST. The Rise of the Necromancer DLC features new zones, updates to Challenge Rifts and, of course, the new Necromancer class.

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  • Phixion13Phixion13 Member UncommonPosts: 163
    Anyone try it? Saw the official forums pretty pissed they were pushing the test realm Necro without even attempting any feedback changes.
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,798
    I've already got it and patched up. I'll be logging in after work today.
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  • DauzqulDauzqul Member RarePosts: 1,980
    edited June 2017
    Not even a Necro can resurrect my will to play this game.
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  • winghaven1winghaven1 Member RarePosts: 707
    I don't get it why this game looks so bad compared to all the other popular dungeon crawlers out there. Blizzard has always had nice (nothing extravagant) but time-defying graphics but this just looks kinda shitty lol. Just my thought on it but I own all the games & current expansions. Necromancer looks dope
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    I don't get it why this game looks so bad compared to all the other popular dungeon crawlers out there. Blizzard has always had nice (nothing extravagant) but time-defying graphics but this just looks kinda shitty lol. Just my thought on it but I own all the games & current expansions. Necromancer looks dope
    Wow -- if I compare graphics to Grim Dawn or even PoE, D3 is head and shoulders above them. Zoomed in, the detail on armor, items, critters, etc. is top notch. 

    D3 has its issues for sure as compared to other games, but its graphical look isn't one of them.
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,862
    Added to the list of games to fire up this week.
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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member RarePosts: 1,666

    SBFord said:



    I don't get it why this game looks so bad compared to all the other popular dungeon crawlers out there. Blizzard has always had nice (nothing extravagant) but time-defying graphics but this just looks kinda shitty lol. Just my thought on it but I own all the games & current expansions. Necromancer looks dope


    Wow -- if I compare graphics to Grim Dawn or even PoE, D3 is head and shoulders above them. Zoomed in, the detail on armor, items, critters, etc. is top notch. 

    D3 has its issues for sure as compared to other games, but its graphical look isn't one of them.



    I thought you couldn't zoom in in D3 or have they changed that? That was one of the things I was hoping they'd change so if they have I'd luv it.
  • kairel182kairel182 Member UncommonPosts: 287
    SBFord said:
    I don't get it why this game looks so bad compared to all the other popular dungeon crawlers out there. Blizzard has always had nice (nothing extravagant) but time-defying graphics but this just looks kinda shitty lol. Just my thought on it but I own all the games & current expansions. Necromancer looks dope
    Wow -- if I compare graphics to Grim Dawn or even PoE, D3 is head and shoulders above them. Zoomed in, the detail on armor, items, critters, etc. is top notch. 

    D3 has its issues for sure as compared to other games, but its graphical look isn't one of them.
    D3 looks awful comparatively to those games that actually have a dark/gritty atmosphere.  I've never thought D3 looked extravagant, but the style of the art is just bad.  It completely missed the mark.
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  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,243
    edited June 2017
    Let's see how it stacks against Fall of Oriath(Path of Exile expansion) and <>(Grim Dawn expansion). Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Victor Vran's expansions were better. Two(in fact THREE!) and 1/4 years and...this(+Kanai) is all Blizzard releases fml! Just look how much stuff GGG released in the same time period!
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,798
    SBFord said:
    I don't get it why this game looks so bad compared to all the other popular dungeon crawlers out there. Blizzard has always had nice (nothing extravagant) but time-defying graphics but this just looks kinda shitty lol. Just my thought on it but I own all the games & current expansions. Necromancer looks dope
    Wow -- if I compare graphics to Grim Dawn or even PoE, D3 is head and shoulders above them. Zoomed in, the detail on armor, items, critters, etc. is top notch. 

    D3 has its issues for sure as compared to other games, but its graphical look isn't one of them.

    How many games have the cinematic epicness of their chapter intros and transitions. I don't care that I'm repeating myself... Give me that as a full length motion picture in CGI.

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  • TintagilTintagil Member UncommonPosts: 213
    Gorwe said:
    Let's see how it stacks against Fall of Oriath(Path of Exile expansion) and <>(Grim Dawn expansion). Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Victor Vran's expansions were better. Two(in fact THREE!) and 1/4 years and...this(+Kanai) is all Blizzard releases fml! Just look how much stuff GGG released in the same time period!
    I love really enjoy D3, but you are absolutely correct. The Necro is fun and all, but it seems pretty underwhelming when looking at the Fall of Oriath for PoE. The good news is, PoE is free so I'll be getting me some of that :)
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,577
    I am in ;)

    But not playing a necro finally offloading my mules inventory to new storage tabs
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  • ElidienElidien Member RarePosts: 1,396
    Other than PoE and Grim Dawn, no ARPG (in the same style) comes close to matching Diablo 3. It is a solid game now and admittedly it did have issues at launch. Other than the 2 aforementioned ARPG's, I have not found one that I enjoy as much. The Necro is a lot of fun and hearkens back to the the days of old with the Necro. The new zones are very atmospheric and really fun.

    If the game was not Blizzard the hate would be less. What I find most interesting is that many of those criticizing the game in this thread obviously have not played it in years. And FYI - for Diablo 3 to be good or for you to like it, does not take away from PoE or Grim Dawn - both are wonderful games and enjoyable in their own right. And like D3, far from perfect as well.
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  • XophXoph Member UncommonPosts: 146
    Graphics are garbage in Diablo 3, haha. You Blizzard fan boys never cease to amaze.
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  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 2,620
    I always thought graphics and atmosphere were two of D3's stronger points.
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  • Phixion13Phixion13 Member UncommonPosts: 163
    Elidien said:
    Other than PoE and Grim Dawn, no ARPG (in the same style) comes close to matching Diablo 3. It is a solid game now and admittedly it did have issues at launch. Other than the 2 aforementioned ARPG's, I have not found one that I enjoy as much. The Necro is a lot of fun and hearkens back to the the days of old with the Necro. The new zones are very atmospheric and really fun.

    If the game was not Blizzard the hate would be less. What I find most interesting is that many of those criticizing the game in this thread obviously have not played it in years. And FYI - for Diablo 3 to be good or for you to like it, does not take away from PoE or Grim Dawn - both are wonderful games and enjoyable in their own right. And like D3, far from perfect as well.
    For as long as it has been out, it's rather stagnant unless you are just getting into it. The necro does not hearken to old, outside "style" and some of the same type of spells; but the play style and builds don't have the same feel from D2 and are made more to suit D3 itself rather than the class. The new zones added some new style but its the same gameplay. The events are still a quick "lore" line, spawn average adds, and boom, done. 

    Let's be real - if it wasn't Blizz, it would probably sale less too... I'm one of those D2 nostalgia people and D3 did break my heart as a Blizz fan, but in the ARPG world it is a good game. Now, by Blizzard standards as the titan with WoW money - it's meh and kinda crazy this is only coming out now... 

    more than likely this is probably just me though
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member RarePosts: 4,303
    I have had zero motivation to play after getting all of the free stash from seasons.  I just couldn't get motivated to test the necro when I got into the beta.

    They could have turned the necro into a great move if they had:

    1) Added season specific themes like POE does - this would require them actually spending time where it's badly needed
    2) Gave everyone the Necromancer for free but offered MTX for extra stash and cosmetics.

    It's a hard sell to get people that quit the game to pay money to come back for a gimped class.  Everything I've seen indicates it's a shell of the class it was in D2.
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  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 1,527
    Stupid question.  I never played Diablo 3 and the official Diablo 3 site doesn't have a skill builder for the necro yet, but from what I can tell of how the necro's skills are grouped, is it true that summoning a golem and summoning the normal skeletons are two mutually exclusive skills?

    If so, I probably won't bother.  I heard the game took a wizzard on pet summoning builds for the necro but that's just particularly dumb IMHO.  After going through tons of ARPGs and their mods, I've found that playing a minion master horde summoner without a general just isn't the same.
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 2,691
    You can get all things Diablo on PSN for $40 right now. It's a sweet deal and game is way more fun on a console--in my humble opinion of course. 
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  • ElidienElidien Member RarePosts: 1,396
    Tiamat64 said:
    Stupid question.  I never played Diablo 3 and the official Diablo 3 site doesn't have a skill builder for the necro yet, but from what I can tell of how the necro's skills are grouped, is it true that summoning a golem and summoning the normal skeletons are two mutually exclusive skills?

    If so, I probably won't bother.  I heard the game took a wizzard on pet summoning builds for the necro but that's just particularly dumb IMHO.  After going through tons of ARPGs and their mods, I've found that playing a minion master horde summoner without a general just isn't the same.
    I have not tried it on the necro but my gut tells me they are mutually exclusive. 

    But if you want an army of minions, go witch doctor. My end game build right now is (I think) 4-5 zombies dogs, a gargantuan and 8 or so fetishes. And everything is built around maxing minion damage too. So much fun to play! :)
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,862
    Witch doctor does seem to make a better necro.  Necro seems to make a better vampire.  

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,798
    Almost no skills in D3 are mutually exclusive. There is a setting in options that will unlock the skill slots.

    When you're leveling in this game experiment. This isn't like ARPGs where you can't change your mind. This ARPG is about experimenting and finding skill, trait, and gear synergies to do cool things.

    Blue and I only played tonight but we got to lvl 29 in Act I. We hopped around skills a lot as we leveled and tried them, but I did get a few build synergies going.

    I tried a minion build with a curse on skill 1, golem on 2, skeles on 3, and a corpse consumer on 4. On right and left mouse I flipped around a lot to try all the trait options. But the aoe spike on button 1 with the trait that stuns was pretty good with minions, but for harder bosses I needed more healing.

    There are three corpse consumers I focused on corpse explosion, corpse lance, and revive. Revive is awesome if you can keep momentum going. You can exploit corpses to rez the mob to fight for you for a short bit. I could keep 10 up at a time.

    My current build is (skill - rune)
    LMB: Bone Spikes - Sudden Impact
    RMB: Death Nova - Unstable Compund
    1 - Command Golem - Ice Golem
    2 - Command Skeletons - Frenzy
    3 - Frailty - Scent of Blood *
    4 - Corpse Explosion - Close Quarters

    * Slot 3 could be any of the curses at this point. Leech and Decrepify both have something to offer depending. There are only a few runes unlocked at 29 so options are more limited.

    The idea with Frailty  - Scent of Blood is that your minions do 15% more damage which might make Revive in slot 4 a better choice. The drawback there is if you don't have a great pool of corpses to exploit you're suddenly out of any extra ammo but your RMB/LMB. So Frailty is good for a minor DPS boost, but against bosses or tougher crowds Leech and Decrepify might be better.

    That's the part I'm still working through and it depends on passives. Since leveling is quick I expect we'll hit at least 50 tomorrow and be into Act II. That will open up more options like a no minion build.
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  • sumdumguy1sumdumguy1 Member RarePosts: 1,283
    Witch doctor does seem to make a better necro.  Necro seems to make a better vampire.  
    This is exactly what my cousin said when I asked him about it since he is currently playing D3.  I will probably go back to D3 within this year and try the necro.  Too involved in other games and other things to try now.
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  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member RarePosts: 6,262

    xDarkjoy said:

    Graphics are garbage in Diablo 3, haha. You Blizzard fan boys never cease to amaze.



    Maybe ditch that 20 year old graphics card and get a new one? ;)

    I am running Diablo 3 on max settings on my 2K 27inch Monitor and it looks great.
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  • GallaiGallai Member UncommonPosts: 13
    I would like to trade GW2 Full for Necropack
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