Look under Guild Strongholds. The most expensive one is an Imperial Castle for $7,000. That's some SotA-level shit. And if I'm not mistaken, it's not just cosmetic. Sorry, since the forum update, pressing enter does not advance me to the next line.
https://crowfall.com/en/store/#store-item-detail-popup
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https://www.reddit.com/r/crowfall/comments/672hpf/guild_strongholds/
I believe it is answered there.
Even if you can earn it, are you familiar with the term "pay to win?" If paying cash gives you an instant, functional item that someone else can earn by investing time, that fits the definition. IDK, maybe I'm wrong and someone who knows more about Crowfall can chime in saying that this item doesn't give you a real-world advantage for cash.
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If it were purely cosmetic, I'd agree. However, this appears to give players the ability to buy an instant, significant PvP advantage over other players who can't afford it. Without getting into a huge debate about the spirit of fair competition, this appears to be markedly pay to win. Again, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so, after reading the item description.
Well, that's one way of looking at it. Another way is that it gives whales a huge starting advantage over the average player who can't afford to spend that kind of money. Am I right that these cash shop buildings give an instant PvP advantage to the purchaser? Is there any indication of how much player time and effort it would take to earn something like an Imperial Palace in-game? That's important, too. If it's a week, maybe no big deal. If it's a year, big deal. That's assuming that comparable structures can even me earned through in-game activities. Is that known yet?
if you into the whole cosmetically looking super wealthy in game avatar thing then yeah maybe from that point of view it could be p2w since your skipping the effort to gather resouces and building it.
doesn't bother me much since im relatively spartan with my characters in any game and it wont be effecting pvp.
OK, that's what I was hoping to hear! If it doesn't affect PvP, then I see it has harmless. Insane, but harmless.
* I define "Pay 2 Win" as being able to buy non-cosmetic items that cannot be (reasonably) obtained in game.
* I define "Pay for Advantage" as being able to buy anything not 100% cosmetic, even if it can be obtained in game.
Or I could come here, to a forum where we DISCUSS GAMES, to post the info and openly state in my first post that I may be misinformed and ask any who are more knowledgeable about Crowfall to set me straight.
The IMPERIAL PALACE is the ultimate display of majesty and power. Towers stand like silent guardians above your thriving capital city, safely nestled in the heart of this heavily fortified ravine!
This is a stronghold BUNDLE! It includes a Province land parcel (Chasm, rank 3), a CASTLE, CITADEL and PALACE THRONEROOM and a defensive structures PACK (stone walls and towers) to design and build your own Imperial Palace!
I agree, it's absolutely absurd by my standards. But then, there are some truly rich people out there for whom this is a drop in the bucket. If it's purely cosmetic, and has no effect on the gameplay mechanics of others (someone being emotionally hurt that they can't have as pretty a house not counting in my estimation), then I don't see it hurting the game. That was my major concern.
Or at least that's my understanding with this thing. Now watch future, non-Kickstarter MMOs adopt the same shady practice.
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These cash shop items can only be used in the Eternal Kingdoms which are effectively instanced housing.
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