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ME Andromeda: victim of SJW cancer or just bad artists?

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,908
    tawess said:
    karmath said:

    I'm Irish. My Great Grandfather was a slave. So yes you did miss it.
    Even so historical context means absolutely nothing. An insult intended to belittle or humiliate someone based on physical appearance or trait is fucked.
    Do enlighten me... did any of this happen to connect to earlier mentioned British Colonialism..? Because if so it is part of said "white people doing racism"... 

    And i already agreed that the above noted troll previously working for BW was in really poor taste. So at least we agree on that. 
    Although I agree that "poking whitey" as he did was in poor taste, it's not even in the same ballpark as the faux outrage from the "poked" that is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to put what a brown person said about whites on the same level as the institutionalized racism that those black and brown people have endured for centuries.

    It's nothing more than Orwellian doublespeak and racist itself at its core.
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  • jj7009jj7009 Member UncommonPosts: 212
    sorry for it quoting on phone and it keeps bugging out. With Rhodesia this was after its independence with most communities intermingling. Black nationalist uprising led to the murder and in many cases rape of white farmers. On the fact that many many generations prior that's land was tribal. As in all of it belonged to the chief. It was also extremely infertile and unused.  So after settlers claimed the land these natives waited many generations and killed the descendants of those who claimed the land. But that's ok because their ancestors were racist. So if a black man calls me a honky my great great grandson can kill his descendants.
  • jj7009jj7009 Member UncommonPosts: 212
    Allow me to present a view point. You are born into this world and You are owed nothing. You are your own person the choices you make are what makes you. 
  • karmathkarmath Member UncommonPosts: 896
    Iselin said:
    tawess said:
    karmath said:

    I'm Irish. My Great Grandfather was a slave. So yes you did miss it.
    Even so historical context means absolutely nothing. An insult intended to belittle or humiliate someone based on physical appearance or trait is fucked.
    Do enlighten me... did any of this happen to connect to earlier mentioned British Colonialism..? Because if so it is part of said "white people doing racism"... 

    And i already agreed that the above noted troll previously working for BW was in really poor taste. So at least we agree on that. 
    Although I agree that "poking whitey" as he did was in poor taste, it's not even in the same ballpark as the faux outrage from the "poked" that is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to put what a brown person said about whites on the same level as the institutionalized racism that those black and brown people have endured for centuries.

    It's nothing more than Orwellian doublespeak and racist itself at its core.
    Racism will never end if any form of it is acceptable and defended. Equality is zero tolerance. Your blanket and derogatory dismissal of peoples opinion based on their skin color is pretty fucked imo.
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,124
    karmath said:
    Racism will never end if any form of it is acceptable and defended. Equality is zero tolerance. Your blanket and derogatory dismissal of peoples opinion based on their skin color is pretty fucked imo.
    not because of skin color.. but because the arguments have the quality of a Billy bookshelf soaked in stale water. 

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,908
    karmath said:
    Iselin said:
    tawess said:
    karmath said:

    I'm Irish. My Great Grandfather was a slave. So yes you did miss it.
    Even so historical context means absolutely nothing. An insult intended to belittle or humiliate someone based on physical appearance or trait is fucked.
    Do enlighten me... did any of this happen to connect to earlier mentioned British Colonialism..? Because if so it is part of said "white people doing racism"... 

    And i already agreed that the above noted troll previously working for BW was in really poor taste. So at least we agree on that. 
    Although I agree that "poking whitey" as he did was in poor taste, it's not even in the same ballpark as the faux outrage from the "poked" that is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to put what a brown person said about whites on the same level as the institutionalized racism that those black and brown people have endured for centuries.

    It's nothing more than Orwellian doublespeak and racist itself at its core.
    Racism will never end if any form of it is acceptable and defended. Equality is zero tolerance. Your blanket and derogatory dismissal of peoples opinion based on their skin color is pretty fucked imo.
    All I'm dismissing is racially-motivated fake outrage whose only purpose is to minimize true institutionalized racism by portraying the racist comments of a brown person as being equivalent to the real racism he has experienced.

    It is nothing but a white supremacist tactic on the same level as beating the shit out of your little brother because he spit at you and then whining to your parents because you got punished and he didn't.
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,021
    1: The plague that is the SJW mindset is real (BTW I am speaking as an actual Liberal that is not so open minded my brains and any common sense attached to it have fallen out). Bioware does suffer from it. But the piss-poor occasional facial expressions are not a symptom of it. Pick your battles wisely folks.

    2:The Indian dude is a douchebag spouting Social Media memes to get peoples jimmies all rustled. Pay no attention to that low intelligence shit. A (#) is a number sign or a pound sign on your phone, not a logic/common sense precursor.

    3: Humans kill humans for any reason under the Sun. It's what we do. Other than self defense it can't be justified by Colonialism or Religion or whatever.

    Oh yeah...

     

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,964
    karmath said:
    Iselin said:
    tawess said:
    karmath said:

    I'm Irish. My Great Grandfather was a slave. So yes you did miss it.
    Even so historical context means absolutely nothing. An insult intended to belittle or humiliate someone based on physical appearance or trait is fucked.
    Do enlighten me... did any of this happen to connect to earlier mentioned British Colonialism..? Because if so it is part of said "white people doing racism"... 

    And i already agreed that the above noted troll previously working for BW was in really poor taste. So at least we agree on that. 
    Although I agree that "poking whitey" as he did was in poor taste, it's not even in the same ballpark as the faux outrage from the "poked" that is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to put what a brown person said about whites on the same level as the institutionalized racism that those black and brown people have endured for centuries.

    It's nothing more than Orwellian doublespeak and racist itself at its core.
    Racism will never end if any form of it is acceptable and defended. Equality is zero tolerance. Your blanket and derogatory dismissal of peoples opinion based on their skin color is pretty fucked imo.
    Racism and its sister nationalism will never end.

    There's always someone to fear or hate, at least for some people. 

    Best we can hope for is to keep it in check and protect people.

    Back to the OP, I'm going with the incompetence theory.

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  • karmathkarmath Member UncommonPosts: 896
    edited March 2017
    Iselin said:
    karmath said:
    Iselin said:
    tawess said:
    karmath said:

    I'm Irish. My Great Grandfather was a slave. So yes you did miss it.
    Even so historical context means absolutely nothing. An insult intended to belittle or humiliate someone based on physical appearance or trait is fucked.
    Do enlighten me... did any of this happen to connect to earlier mentioned British Colonialism..? Because if so it is part of said "white people doing racism"... 

    And i already agreed that the above noted troll previously working for BW was in really poor taste. So at least we agree on that. 
    Although I agree that "poking whitey" as he did was in poor taste, it's not even in the same ballpark as the faux outrage from the "poked" that is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to put what a brown person said about whites on the same level as the institutionalized racism that those black and brown people have endured for centuries.

    It's nothing more than Orwellian doublespeak and racist itself at its core.
    Racism will never end if any form of it is acceptable and defended. Equality is zero tolerance. Your blanket and derogatory dismissal of peoples opinion based on their skin color is pretty fucked imo.
    All I'm dismissing is racially-motivated fake outrage whose only purpose is to minimize true institutionalized racism by portraying the racist comments of a brown person as being equivalent to the real racism he has experienced.

    It is nothing but a white supremacist tactic on the same level as beating the shit out of your little brother because he spit at you and then whining to your parents because you got punished and he didn't.
    The point I'm trying to get across is by that logic, that dude as a Indian cant be offended by a African calling him a currymuncher or some other bullshit because his ancestors were more oppressed than his. It's a vicious circle that will never end if we base it on historical events that no one alive today had any hand in.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,908
    karmath said:
    Iselin said:
    karmath said:
    Iselin said:
    tawess said:
    karmath said:

    I'm Irish. My Great Grandfather was a slave. So yes you did miss it.
    Even so historical context means absolutely nothing. An insult intended to belittle or humiliate someone based on physical appearance or trait is fucked.
    Do enlighten me... did any of this happen to connect to earlier mentioned British Colonialism..? Because if so it is part of said "white people doing racism"... 

    And i already agreed that the above noted troll previously working for BW was in really poor taste. So at least we agree on that. 
    Although I agree that "poking whitey" as he did was in poor taste, it's not even in the same ballpark as the faux outrage from the "poked" that is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to put what a brown person said about whites on the same level as the institutionalized racism that those black and brown people have endured for centuries.

    It's nothing more than Orwellian doublespeak and racist itself at its core.
    Racism will never end if any form of it is acceptable and defended. Equality is zero tolerance. Your blanket and derogatory dismissal of peoples opinion based on their skin color is pretty fucked imo.
    All I'm dismissing is racially-motivated fake outrage whose only purpose is to minimize true institutionalized racism by portraying the racist comments of a brown person as being equivalent to the real racism he has experienced.

    It is nothing but a white supremacist tactic on the same level as beating the shit out of your little brother because he spit at you and then whining to your parents because you got punished and he didn't.
    The point I'm trying to get across is by that logic, that dude as a Indian cant be offended by a African calling him a currymuncher or some other bullshit because his ancestors were more oppressed than his. It's a vicious circle that will never end if we base it on historical events that no one alive today had any hand in.
    It is still a matter of degrees. All racism is not equal to all other racism. You can dislike an ethnic group all you want but until you gas a few million of them to death, you ain't as bad as the Nazis.
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  • CaffynatedCaffynated Member RarePosts: 543
    Imagine my shock to discover that the people rabidly defending ME:A are the same people rabidly defending crazy SJW politics. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

    SBFord said:
    As a cancer survivor, I am constantly appalled by the casual use of a terrible disease's name in order to make some point about gaming. If you or anyone you loved had ever been afflicted with it, you wouldn't dare.
    As a cancer survivor, and having helped multiple close friends and family members during their cancer treatment, nobody cares if you are offended.  

    Cancer is a near perfect comparison to SJW entryism into cultures that they slowly take over and destroy.They did it with SciFi and fantasy literature, the major comic companies, and for the last 4-5 years have been trying to spread their crap into gaming.

    Even the slash and burn counter to stop the spread of SJW culture is comparable to cancer treatments as the backlash often causes a lot of damage to communities.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182
    edited March 2017
    karmath said:

    The point I'm trying to get across is by that logic, that dude as a Indian cant be offended by a African calling him a currymuncher or some other bullshit because his ancestors were more oppressed than his. It's a vicious circle that will never end if we base it on historical events that no one alive today had any hand in.
    As a Native American I have to say no, I'm not one of those I have 5% in my family somewhere along the line me too's, half my relatives actually live on Reservations. The reason I say no is because ignoring that historical context you completely miss why ingrained cultural tension exists.

    This is the reason even folks like myself are shunned within our greater family, as we're more or less seen as compromised from living outside of those reservations in normal society. We're seen as ignorant of the hardships they still encounter today due to that institutional oppression  forced on them years ago.

    In normal society we're pretty much blind to it.. Because of folks who want to push everything under a rug and act like it never happened. Rather than face the truth of it..You don't learn anything by ignoring historical events... especially events that effected people in such ways.. You can also kiss the prospect of gaining trust goodbye with that approach.


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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,438
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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,438
    I hope TB's WTF video above and shine a light about the subject. He is one of my few trusted critiques outside this site.
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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182
    edited March 2017
    Imagine my shock to discover that the people rabidly defending ME:A are the same people rabidly defending crazy SJW politics. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

    SBFord said:
    As a cancer survivor, I am constantly appalled by the casual use of a terrible disease's name in order to make some point about gaming. If you or anyone you loved had ever been afflicted with it, you wouldn't dare.
    As a cancer survivor, and having helped multiple close friends and family members during their cancer treatment, nobody cares if you are offended.  

    Cancer is a near perfect comparison to SJW entryism into cultures that they slowly take over and destroy.They did it with SciFi and fantasy literature, the major comic companies, and for the last 4-5 years have been trying to spread their crap into gaming.

    Even the slash and burn counter to stop the spread of SJW culture is comparable to cancer treatments as the backlash often causes a lot of damage to communities.
    As with just about everything, there's a good message and a bad message within the "SJW" movement. Trying to fight things like Racism = good, trying to make sure the outrage is known about Slave Leia's collar = not so good. There are also many contradictions within that message.. like say touting individualism, yet at the same time falling head deep into group-think and the resulting shaming of those who don't. 

    So you'll have to define how anyone really carried the torch of that movement, rather than state certain aspects that may coincide with their own beliefs?

    You also have to take into consideration much of that stuff is regurgitated by 20 somethings, which today says it's being spewed by a bunch of people who don't know squat. They were never educated on civics, barely any history, etc.. The common core brain if you will... The same people who in a recent poll by a majority declared Democracy isn't important... So yeah....

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,839
    SBFord said:
    As a cancer survivor, I am constantly appalled by the casual use of a terrible disease's name in order to make some point about gaming. If you or anyone you loved had ever been afflicted with it, you wouldn't dare. @YashaX @Solar_Prophet
    I've had close friends die from cancer and I cringe when I see it used so casually, or wished upon someone.

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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member RarePosts: 4,303
    bad animations are bad animations.  Sounds like people are trying to make something into an issue that really isn't.
  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,438
    Distopia said:
    Imagine my shock to discover that the people rabidly defending ME:A are the same people rabidly defending crazy SJW politics. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

    SBFord said:
    As a cancer survivor, I am constantly appalled by the casual use of a terrible disease's name in order to make some point about gaming. If you or anyone you loved had ever been afflicted with it, you wouldn't dare.
    As a cancer survivor, and having helped multiple close friends and family members during their cancer treatment, nobody cares if you are offended.  

    Cancer is a near perfect comparison to SJW entryism into cultures that they slowly take over and destroy.They did it with SciFi and fantasy literature, the major comic companies, and for the last 4-5 years have been trying to spread their crap into gaming.

    Even the slash and burn counter to stop the spread of SJW culture is comparable to cancer treatments as the backlash often causes a lot of damage to communities.
    As with just about everything, there's a good message and a bad message within the "SJW" movement. Trying to fight things like Racism = good, trying to make sure the outrage is known about Slave Leia's collar = not so good. There are also many contradictions within that message.. like say touting individualism, yet at the same time falling head deep into group-think and the resulting shaming of those who don't. 

    So you'll have to define how anyone really carried the torch of that movement, rather than state certain aspects that may coincide with their own beliefs?

    You also have to take into consideration much of that stuff is regurgitated by 20 somethings, which today says it's being spewed by a bunch of people who don't know squat. They were never educated on civics, barely any history, etc.. The common core brain if you will... The same people who in a recent poll by a majority declared Democracy isn't important... So yeah....
    FFS, it's an open group. You can't define anything, both of you.
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  • Asch126Asch126 Member RarePosts: 526
    edited March 2017
    bad animations are bad animations.  Sounds like people are trying to make something into an issue that really isn't.
    Bad animations, bugs everywhere, horrid writing.

    Take your pick, there's videos everywhere that show how screwed up this game is and yet people keep defending it as if they were somehow blind to all the issues.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182
    Nyctelios said:
    Distopia said:
    Imagine my shock to discover that the people rabidly defending ME:A are the same people rabidly defending crazy SJW politics. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

    SBFord said:
    As a cancer survivor, I am constantly appalled by the casual use of a terrible disease's name in order to make some point about gaming. If you or anyone you loved had ever been afflicted with it, you wouldn't dare.
    As a cancer survivor, and having helped multiple close friends and family members during their cancer treatment, nobody cares if you are offended.  

    Cancer is a near perfect comparison to SJW entryism into cultures that they slowly take over and destroy.They did it with SciFi and fantasy literature, the major comic companies, and for the last 4-5 years have been trying to spread their crap into gaming.

    Even the slash and burn counter to stop the spread of SJW culture is comparable to cancer treatments as the backlash often causes a lot of damage to communities.
    As with just about everything, there's a good message and a bad message within the "SJW" movement. Trying to fight things like Racism = good, trying to make sure the outrage is known about Slave Leia's collar = not so good. There are also many contradictions within that message.. like say touting individualism, yet at the same time falling head deep into group-think and the resulting shaming of those who don't. 

    So you'll have to define how anyone really carried the torch of that movement, rather than state certain aspects that may coincide with their own beliefs?

    You also have to take into consideration much of that stuff is regurgitated by 20 somethings, which today says it's being spewed by a bunch of people who don't know squat. They were never educated on civics, barely any history, etc.. The common core brain if you will... The same people who in a recent poll by a majority declared Democracy isn't important... So yeah....
    FFS, it's an open group. You can't define anything, both of you.
    HE can certainly define his allegation folks here are defending crazy SJW politics... Other than that what did I attempt to define rather than state my opinion about the said group?

    Note: That last part was more or less a fact though... Civics and History are pretty much gone from schools... Which means kids aren't learning important things like what happened in the 30s-40s, as well as 60's, why freedom of speech is important, how our government actually works, etc...

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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 2,946
    Iselin said:
    karmath said:
    Iselin said:
    karmath said:
    Iselin said:
    tawess said:
    karmath said:

    I'm Irish. My Great Grandfather was a slave. So yes you did miss it.
    Even so historical context means absolutely nothing. An insult intended to belittle or humiliate someone based on physical appearance or trait is fucked.
    Do enlighten me... did any of this happen to connect to earlier mentioned British Colonialism..? Because if so it is part of said "white people doing racism"... 

    And i already agreed that the above noted troll previously working for BW was in really poor taste. So at least we agree on that. 
    Although I agree that "poking whitey" as he did was in poor taste, it's not even in the same ballpark as the faux outrage from the "poked" that is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to put what a brown person said about whites on the same level as the institutionalized racism that those black and brown people have endured for centuries.

    It's nothing more than Orwellian doublespeak and racist itself at its core.
    Racism will never end if any form of it is acceptable and defended. Equality is zero tolerance. Your blanket and derogatory dismissal of peoples opinion based on their skin color is pretty fucked imo.
    All I'm dismissing is racially-motivated fake outrage whose only purpose is to minimize true institutionalized racism by portraying the racist comments of a brown person as being equivalent to the real racism he has experienced.

    It is nothing but a white supremacist tactic on the same level as beating the shit out of your little brother because he spit at you and then whining to your parents because you got punished and he didn't.
    The point I'm trying to get across is by that logic, that dude as a Indian cant be offended by a African calling him a currymuncher or some other bullshit because his ancestors were more oppressed than his. It's a vicious circle that will never end if we base it on historical events that no one alive today had any hand in.
    It is still a matter of degrees. All racism is not equal to all other racism. You can dislike an ethnic group all you want but until you gas a few million of them to death, you ain't as bad as the Nazis.
    Iselin your argument is BS, two wrongs don't make a right and its that simple.  There's no good excuse to be hateful or racist period.



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  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,500
    Asch126 said:
    bad animations are bad animations.  Sounds like people are trying to make something into an issue that really isn't.
    Bad animations, bugs everywhere, horrid writing.

    Take your pick, there's videos everywhere that show how screwed up this game is and yet people keep defending it as if they were somehow blind to all the issues.
    Oh come on, been playing it since release and that is just not true at all.  Take about fake news, your post is it.  Anyone that plays a Bioware game and grouses about animations is a troll.  Sure there are minor bugs, but I have yet to find one that causes much in the way of gameplay interruption.  And I will call complete nonsense on the horrid writing.
  • KothosesKothoses Member UncommonPosts: 889
    Just gonna leave this here.

    Original article is not exactly factually accurate.


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  • Kaisen_DexxKaisen_Dexx Member UncommonPosts: 326
    The problems with the game don't strike me as an SJW Agenda. It feels much more like a new inexperienced team. Which is understandable. I suspect their next game will be orders of magnitude better in execution. My only advice in the mean time is for the writers to go take a few Physics and Chemistry courses - at least up to and including Classical Thermodynamics. A large majority of my issues with the writing stem from a misunderstanding of core science that themes their game.
  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,171
    SBFord said:
    As a cancer survivor, I am constantly appalled by the casual use of a terrible disease's name in order to make some point about gaming. If you or anyone you loved had ever been afflicted with it, you wouldn't dare. @YashaX @Solar_Prophet
    I've had close friends die from cancer and I cringe when I see it used so casually, or wished upon someone.
    If someone is saying "SJW cancer" they say what they mean. It also does not mean they wish a tumor to every or even any SJW (Well some might offcourse, can not read there mind). They simply mean that SJW as a movement is an "evil condition that is the  cause of impairment, destruction, ruin, or frustration" (as in the word Blight). It is indeed not political correct, but that is the whole point I guess. It might be a over exaggeration (If they where really a blight, Trump would cleary not be president), but I think you sell people short if you believe they wish someone to have a tumor when they use it is in this context. 
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