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I Wanted Mass Effect 4 But Got Something Better - Mass Effect: Andromeda Review - MMORPG.com

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  • Jimmy562Jimmy562 Member UncommonPosts: 1,158

    xelrah said:

    Now comes the point I’m surprised to having to address. The Internet’s biggest gripe with the game and the reason for petty witch-hunts: animation. Despite what you might have heard up to now, it is not that bad. Really. Occasionally, there might be a slightly weird facial expression or a stiff look another character gives you, but mostly it is people making a mountain out of molehill. In addition, let me be frank here: if you play(ed) Mass Effect and / or Dragon Age for graphics, you’re doing it wrong.







    Except that things like this completely ruin any immersion. Just check that facial expression in dialogue at 38 second +



    I've only ever seen these issues with the default Sara face. My custom male Ryder had 0 dodgy facial expressions in the trial.
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    Renoaku said:
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    I say don't buy the game, its the only way they are going to stop putting this shitty DRM in games, and I would leave this game the most negative review of 0 simply for including this and making the game unplayable.
    Don't worry, the days of DRM will soon be over.

    Internet access is almost universal in the NA/EU market by now, DRM will be replaced with "always-on" internet connections and player accounts, requiring you to be online for the game to work.

    The "final solution" for piracy is almost here... :lol:
    Yeah I have no problem with this in fact "Ghost Recon Wildlands" did not need Denuvo, because its a Multiplayer game, but they put it there anyways so I didn't buy it...

    I also took the Liberty of sending some Emails over to all of Bioware's Email Addresses I could find telling them how disgusted I am, and even got a post removed by a polite Reddit Moderator for saying I would rather play a pirated Edition of the game rather than buy the game which has Denuvo I would just rather play it without having to put Denuvo on my system, and I got no problem paying for the game with over 200 steam games purchased, and previous Mass Effect Series.

    And yes Internet Connection always on is a great thing I think, at least I have good Hardware & Software Fire Wall the let me decline Internet Access, and setup what connects or sends information over the internet and can see where it going I try to keep my PC Clean, and everything secure which is why I can't play games using Denuvo and have them messing with my system in any way will be a great thing to have always on Internet I think its like the future especially seeing AT&T install all thse Optical Filters around here.
  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,867
    Renoaku said:
    Renoaku said:

    I also took the Liberty of sending some Emails over to all of Bioware's Email Addresses I could find telling them how disgusted I am, and even got a post removed by a polite Reddit Moderator for saying I would rather play a pirated Edition of the game rather than buy the game which has Denuvo I would just rather play it without having to put Denuvo on my system, and I got no problem paying for the game with over 200 steam games purchased, and previous Mass Effect Series.


    Piracy is still piracy no matter how you justify it. That is like saying you will only ever steal jackets that have pockets in them because you refuse to buy jackets with pockets in them. 
  • OntblodOntblod Member UncommonPosts: 195
    Horizon Dawn wipes the floor with this game.
    I agree with that. Zelda too. But MEA is still fun, especially if you liked DAI or are an ME fan in general. It's rough around the edge, but I tend to lump BioWare in with Bethesda - companies who make great, deep, expansive RPGs that always need a lot more QA time.
    DAI started out interesting but failed the rest on. It became uninspiring and the story got
    hidden in boring grind, questionable gameplay with war table, perks and points for moving on
    to new territories only to repeat the grind by setting up camps. Good on paper
    and could have become something great, instead its game design just made it dull,
    well atleast for me.  Its pretty clear Witcher 3 has become a yardstick for future RPG´s
    and they have raised the bar so high that it shows the weakness of others.


  • Gobstopper3DGobstopper3D Member RarePosts: 966
    I really disliked what they did with DAI and I don't like what they have one with MEA. Although the facial animations are really odd to say the least, that isn't what my biggest concern. It appears that they put more focus on combat and less on other areas.

    -CC is abysmal and worst of the series by far.
    -The writing at times makes me think that it's aimed at a Nickelodeon audience.
    -Scanning..If that doesn't scream DAI in space, I don't know what does. I hated that mechanic there and it's back, worse than ever. I know there was scanning in previous ME games, but not this extent.
    -Squad-mates seem to be nothing more than meat shields now. You can tell them where to go and who to shoot and that is it. Even then, they pretty much do what they want from my limited experience. No deep customization anymore for them. Pointless really unless you want to bring them along to listen to their cringe worthy one-liners. We can swap profiles on the fly, but you can change your companions guns. Makes all that crafting pointless to just do it for yourself.
    -The profile system is concerning as well. I haven't got enough time with it yet to know how it will work in the end, but it appears to me that it will simply replace one limitation for another.
    -KB/M is better in this than in DAI, but still awkward and clunky. Feels a bit smoother with a controller, but physical limitations prevent me from using one for more than 15 -30 min at a time.

    I'm not enjoying what I have seen so far. Might have to give this one a pass. Haven't really decided yet.

    I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.

  • VowOfSilenceVowOfSilence Member UncommonPosts: 565
    edited March 2017
    SBFord said:
    What I find funny is that when "professional reviewers" rate a game highly but the gamer population doesn't, it's pitchforks and torches because they're all shills.

    When reviewers pan a game, it's sunshine and roses and "See? They know what they're talking about". 

    :D
    You find that funny?

    You know, i thought the point of reviews was to give people an idea if they're gonna like a game or not. So if a whole lot of people buy a game based on good reviews and then don't like it, of course they're gonna be pissed. Naturally, that's not as much of an issue with negative reviews, because nobody feels like they were misled and wasted their money.

    But that's not even the issue here, because the general consensus among professional reviewers is that ME:A is kinda "meh". You've given ME:A the highest score of any well-known site out there (yes, even IGN rated it 77). You wanna write an article about how you personally like a game despite all it's flaws? Great, write an opinion piece, or at least do a double review or something. But don't officially recommend a game to your readers based on personal preference, and then act surprised if your readers have a problem with that.

    Hype train -> Reality

  • RPGMASTERGAMERRPGMASTERGAMER Member UncommonPosts: 516
    how with these game breaking cons he can give it 8.7

    if you like story that much... go read book

    this game terrible
  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610
    edited March 2017
    SBFord said:
    What I find funny is that when "professional reviewers" rate a game highly but the gamer population doesn't, it's pitchforks and torches because they're all shills.

    When reviewers pan a game, it's sunshine and roses and "See? They know what they're talking about". 

    :D
    Well, unless you're Jim Sterling. He gave the new Zelda game a 7/10, he thought it was good. Didn't stop a small number of rabid fans getting annoyed and DDoS his site for not giving it a 10.

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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,033
    edited March 2017
    how with these game breaking cons he can give it 8.7

    if you like story that much... go read book

    this game terrible
    What game breaking cons? I played 10 hours and literally the only thing I ever saw was a few facial animations that were awkward.  The rest of the game ran flawlessly.  I'm guessing you haven't even played a single minute of it.  Going off hearsay doesn't give your case any credibility. 

    You should probably change your forum name if you don't  understand why the story in an RPG is important.  No RPGMASTERGAMER would say something that foolish.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 31,981
    edited March 2017

    You find that funny?


    Not funny "har har" funny as in peculiar or ridiculous.
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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    how with these game breaking cons he can give it 8.7

    if you like story that much... go read book

    this game terrible

    Simply put, because you don't rate a game using one metric. How is it that we can play something like Stardew Valley and love it, yet these animations are game-breaking? 

    You have a number of performance indicators when you write a review and that one indicator, say graphics, will take some kind of hit based on something like animations. However, when you're reviewing something objectively, it doesn't mean that a few poor animations or a bad UI are game-breaking issues. 

    Honestly, I think it's actually hilarious that you would say something like "if you like story that much.... go read a book." Lol. It's sad that someone would actually make this comment being that Mass Effect is known for deep stories. In fact, people essentially lost their minds with the ME3 ending. 

    Anyway, the point is that these issues aren't game-breaking. Game-breaking issues would be something like intermittent and continuous crashes. I can't comment on the entirety of the game, nor can you, but it should be interesting to see how problematic these things are in the wild. 

    BTW, the PC version is hovering around 8/10 right now, so maybe you should suspend your disbelief and read a couple other reviews to understand why they enjoyed it. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • deniterdeniter Member RarePosts: 1,430
    SBFord said:
    What I find funny is that when "professional reviewers" rate a game highly but the gamer population doesn't, it's pitchforks and torches because they're all shills.

    When reviewers pan a game, it's sunshine and roses and "See? They know what they're talking about". 

    :D
    And how about the case when "professional reviewers" rate a game very poorly and gamer population agree? That's right, it will never happen. Professionals always have to praise a game or they'll lose beta access, pre-launch testing and what not. Stating that a game is not very good is out of question.

    There's always about 50% chance gamers will agree with the professionals. :)
  • deniterdeniter Member RarePosts: 1,430
    Aori said:
    deniter said:
    SBFord said:
    What I find funny is that when "professional reviewers" rate a game highly but the gamer population doesn't, it's pitchforks and torches because they're all shills.

    When reviewers pan a game, it's sunshine and roses and "See? They know what they're talking about". 

    :D
    And how about the case when "professional reviewers" rate a game very poorly and gamer population agree? That's right, it will never happen. Professionals always have to praise a game or they'll lose beta access, pre-launch testing and what not. Stating that a game is not very good is out of question.

    There's always about 50% chance gamers will agree with the professionals. :)
    This is not true at all.
    Most of the time it's true, and you know it.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    deniter said:
    SBFord said:
    What I find funny is that when "professional reviewers" rate a game highly but the gamer population doesn't, it's pitchforks and torches because they're all shills.

    When reviewers pan a game, it's sunshine and roses and "See? They know what they're talking about". 

    :D
    And how about the case when "professional reviewers" rate a game very poorly and gamer population agree? That's right, it will never happen. Professionals always have to praise a game or they'll lose beta access, pre-launch testing and what not. Stating that a game is not very good is out of question.

    There's always about 50% chance gamers will agree with the professionals. :)

    That's not true at all, lol. 

    Dude!! For realsies, it took me like less than a minute to source this. 
    http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/new-releases/pc/userscore

    I think it's probably more like a 20/60/20 rule, but there are definitely cases where critics have rated lower than the user. Also, this URL also shows games that critics were overly harsh with. These are just new releases, too. 

    The problem is how can you honestly remain objective by saying that a game is 0/10? I think that in the HISTORY of Gamespot there have been like 1 game that was 1/10. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 31,981
    how with these game breaking cons he can give it 8.7

    if you like story that much... go read book

    this game terrible
    Do you not find that particular statement a bit ironic with the forum handle RPGMASTERGAMER?
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  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610
    edited March 2017
    Unfortunately this is how review scores are judged now. For me they've been pretty much pointless, now even more so.


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  • deniterdeniter Member RarePosts: 1,430
    CrazKanuk said:
    deniter said:
    SBFord said:
    What I find funny is that when "professional reviewers" rate a game highly but the gamer population doesn't, it's pitchforks and torches because they're all shills.

    When reviewers pan a game, it's sunshine and roses and "See? They know what they're talking about". 

    :D
    And how about the case when "professional reviewers" rate a game very poorly and gamer population agree? That's right, it will never happen. Professionals always have to praise a game or they'll lose beta access, pre-launch testing and what not. Stating that a game is not very good is out of question.

    There's always about 50% chance gamers will agree with the professionals. :)

    That's not true at all, lol. 

    Dude!! For realsies, it took me like less than a minute to source this. 
    http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/new-releases/pc/userscore

    I think it's probably more like a 20/60/20 rule, but there are definitely cases where critics have rated lower than the user. Also, this URL also shows games that critics were overly harsh with. These are just new releases, too. 

    The problem is how can you honestly remain objective by saying that a game is 0/10? I think that in the HISTORY of Gamespot there have been like 1 game that was 1/10. 
    I don't think any game that is for sale is 0/10 or even 1/10. If you refer to my previous post i've accepted many people give scores like 0 and 1 or 10 for very subjective reasons. But if there are lots and lots more people giving a zero than those who give 10 you can make some conclusions.

    There are some games the critics can review as they please, and some they can review as they have to. ME:A is one of the latter - Bioware and EA are names way too big to mess with.
  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610
    Sovrath said:
    how with these game breaking cons he can give it 8.7

    if you like story that much... go read book

    this game terrible
    Do you not find that particular statement a bit ironic with the forum handle RPGMASTERGAMER?
    They obviously play RPGs for the maths. =)

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    edited March 2017
    immodium said:
    Unfortunately this is how review scores are judged now. For me they've been pretty much pointless, now even more so.


    Many people only like stuff that is tearing other stuff down today, that's basically the way of things. They don't like objective grounded in what matters opinions, they like sensationalized flamboyance. That's why i shy away from reviews in general today, as the clicks and money are truly in pointing out what is wrong with everything. 

    The emotional Angry Joe's, The overtly exaggerated satirists, etc... That's how these folks make so much money off of what they do, they know the cynical hipster know it all attitude is prevalent so they exploit the hell out of it. 

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • renstarensta Member RarePosts: 728

    SBFord said:

    For those bitching about graphics, let's take a look at the Universal Game for Comparison, or UGC, The Witcher 3



    The irony runs deeps wouldn't you say? :D



    You are comparing normal gameplay to random glitches..... So yeah.... You can't compare those....

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    Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    edited March 2017
    Here's what you need to know about most gamers and AAA releases...

    There is only awesome or crap, there is nothing in between. That is what's fashionable.
    I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
  • renstarensta Member RarePosts: 728

    Reizla said:



    I think this review tells it all (at least for me). I'll wait for a $20 sale or 2nd hand copy for PS4 (which should not take too long...)



    Great review! More people should watch.

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    Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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  • FrammshammFrammshamm Member UncommonPosts: 322

    xelrah said:

    Now comes the point I’m surprised to having to address. The Internet’s biggest gripe with the game and the reason for petty witch-hunts: animation. Despite what you might have heard up to now, it is not that bad. Really. Occasionally, there might be a slightly weird facial expression or a stiff look another character gives you, but mostly it is people making a mountain out of molehill. In addition, let me be frank here: if you play(ed) Mass Effect and / or Dragon Age for graphics, you’re doing it wrong.







    Except that things like this completely ruin any immersion. Just check that facial expression in dialogue at 38 second +



    I havent read a single article about this game. Bioware just doesnt hit my radar anymore. This article came up first on the MMORPG.com feed tho and the first thing i noticed was " OMFG, what is up with that chick's face" in the screenshot. The I scrolled down to the still of her holding a gun and thought .."geebus, is this what AA has come to"? I didnt read a word of the article and still dont know shit about the game. Then I clicked on this video... then I clicked on it again, and again and again. I think i got a solid 15 minutes straight of hard, gut-busting laughing. Thank you so much for those endorphins.
  • tixylixtixylix Member UncommonPosts: 1,288
    I watched this game for 10 hours on a Stream, it's complete crap, I dunno how you gave it 8.7
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    tixylix said:
    I watched this game for 10 hours on a Stream, it's complete crap, I dunno how you gave it 8.7
    You watched a game for 10hours but it's crap?  lol

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


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